Having had time to reflect, if they bring in a Varney as CEO (or similar) plus a group of people who know the club to run it, he might have learnt lessons and it’ll be ok. If he does what he did at Forest and run it himself, we could be in trouble.
Standard Liege fans forewarned us about our current muppet and he was given the benefit to bestow his clusterfuckery upon us for the next few years.
Now apparently swathes of Forest fans are passing on their sympathies ahead of this potential new ownership.
Sensible business people tend to learn from mistakes. Ego driven autocrats no so much.
Always thought that the "anyone but Roland" mantra lacked the required nuance in the current climate of club ownership in this country whereby sheer lunacy, stubbornness and incompetence appears to be pre- requisite for acquiring an English footballing institution.
Hopefully if this goes through we'll strike unbelievably lucky and break the mould and this one doesn't turn out to be another clown of similarly catastrophic proportions.
He won’t be buying it. Won’t pay the £50 million plus all debts. Roland apparently said he still wants a say in the training ground too after he has sold it.
Not sure the price was ever 50m AND the debt, that'd make the price over 100m.
Having had time to reflect, if they bring in a Varney as CEO (or similar) plus a group of people who know the club to run it, he might have learnt lessons and it’ll be ok. If he does what he did at Forest and run it himself, we could be in trouble.
The funny thing about all of these tweets is none of them know what life with Roland has been like.
What were NFFC's league table finishes with him in charge? Any relegations?
Did he stop supplying the youth team with Food and Water?
Did he sell any sign of academy talent at the first opportunity?
It appears that he sold a number of first teamers without the Manager even knowing it would happen. In one case the day after that player had scored. An academy player worth money is the same isn't it?
Duchatelet has probably had LDT trying to interest all the best ex owners he can find - this guy, Cellino, Bechetti, Simon Jordan - just to spite us. He might have learned lessons from his f*** ups at Forest, but the interference with selection and selling talented players out from under the manager don't bode well.
He won’t be buying it. Won’t pay the £50 million plus all debts. Roland apparently said he still wants a say in the training ground too after he has sold it.
Not sure the price was ever 50m AND the debt, that'd make the price over 100m.
He won’t be buying it. Won’t pay the £50 million plus all debts. Roland apparently said he still wants a say in the training ground too after he has sold it.
Look. I'm not saying he's a good fit. In fact if he's had any sort of legal challenges against his ownership then the EFL should have the balls to say " sorry mate. You had your chance. English football is not for you and we're not going to allow it to be in the future"
But reading the above article puts him nowhere near Duchatelets league of complete incompetence from what I can see. Yes I can understand the forest fans frustration but I'm sorry. This bloke is no Duchatelet.
One aspect I'd be interested to hear from Forest fans is how long it took Fawaz to sell the club and how he behaved during the sale
I've long believed that we just need to get Roland out regardless of who comes in... the bloke is a disease to Football and is proving he's happy to let this takeover drag out because he'll just asset strip and cut costs until there is absolutely nothing left - On the other hand, despite Forest fans warning us of constant failures from this bloke they were (1) Never relegated and (2) Never forced to protest
Eventually he sold the club and there seemed to be little fuss about him selling (like how Roland has acted) and Forest have been able to move on - Find it interesting that he didnt show much interest in the Academy @ Forest though as per Andy Reid's comments, wonder in which way as looking at previous seasons their U18s and U23s have had a similar sort of season to Charlton Academy at the same level
Seems that the rumours about multiple bids for the Club aren't far off the mark.
Another potential purchaser was also being shown around the Club yesterday. Pictured below is another possible owner being shown round Sparrows Lane by Leiven De Turck (second left).
Imagine the pre-match entertainment. There'd be more performers than fans watching the game!!
The Aussies have a bid on the table. It's some way off RD's asking price but they aren't going to up it. They are happy to sit and wait for him to come down to them.
In the meantime there are no other concrete bids. RD or actually his man (Van Truck) is madly searching round for anyone who has money and a passing interest in football - in the hope one will offer a higher bid. I imagine a few probably take up the offer of a free tour of the valley etc. Doesn't necessarily mean serious interest.
One of 2 things will happen. Someone will come in and offer a higher price - RD will bite their hand off for it. Or no one will come in and Roland will eventually lower his price and accept the Aussie bid.
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Now apparently swathes of Forest fans are passing on their sympathies ahead of this potential new ownership.
Sensible business people tend to learn from mistakes. Ego driven autocrats no so much.
Always thought that the "anyone but Roland" mantra lacked the required nuance in the current climate of club ownership in this country whereby sheer lunacy, stubbornness and incompetence appears to be pre- requisite for acquiring an English footballing institution.
Hopefully if this goes through we'll strike unbelievably lucky and break the mould and this one doesn't turn out to be another clown of similarly catastrophic proportions.
I've got Charlton on my mind..........
and then .............
Oh Fuck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nurse, NURSE .....!
At least it gives @MuttleyCAFC time to work on the FOT logo
Viva la thread
He might have learned lessons from his f*** ups at Forest, but the interference with selection and selling talented players out from under the manager don't bode well.
In an alternative universe, Fawaz is Roland, Andy Reid is Johnny Jackson, Forest Fans are Charlton Fans.
Absolutely no good will from me.
Look. I'm not saying he's a good fit. In fact if he's had any sort of legal challenges against his ownership then the EFL should have the balls to say " sorry mate. You had your chance. English football is not for you and we're not going to allow it to be in the future"
But reading the above article puts him nowhere near Duchatelets league of complete incompetence from what I can see.
Yes I can understand the forest fans frustration but I'm sorry. This bloke is no Duchatelet.
I've long believed that we just need to get Roland out regardless of who comes in... the bloke is a disease to Football and is proving he's happy to let this takeover drag out because he'll just asset strip and cut costs until there is absolutely nothing left - On the other hand, despite Forest fans warning us of constant failures from this bloke they were (1) Never relegated and (2) Never forced to protest
Eventually he sold the club and there seemed to be little fuss about him selling (like how Roland has acted) and Forest have been able to move on - Find it interesting that he didnt show much interest in the Academy @ Forest though as per Andy Reid's comments, wonder in which way as looking at previous seasons their U18s and U23s have had a similar sort of season to Charlton Academy at the same level
Sounds like a very Duchatelet asset strip however it did seem that he was trying to get rid of dead wood and rebuild.
2 of his managers served over a year and the goal each time was promotion.
They remained until he sold as a top half side battling to break into the playoffs.
They bought some very good players and let some go.
The whole Boyd situation was just weird.
The Aussies have a bid on the table. It's some way off RD's asking price but they aren't going to up it. They are happy to sit and wait for him to come down to them.
In the meantime there are no other concrete bids. RD or actually his man (Van Truck) is madly searching round for anyone who has money and a passing interest in football - in the hope one will offer a higher bid. I imagine a few probably take up the offer of a free tour of the valley etc. Doesn't necessarily mean serious interest.
One of 2 things will happen. Someone will come in and offer a higher price - RD will bite their hand off for it. Or no one will come in and Roland will eventually lower his price and accept the Aussie bid.