I can't find the post but I thought I read that the photo of Fawaz looking out over the Valley from the centre circle hospitality suite was taken on Monday with De Truck man in the background? Doesn't mean to say it wasn't him but the latter only works Tuesdsys to Thursdays. WIOTOS
Fawaz was 100% at The Valley yesterday (Wednesday)
The Aussies have a bit on the table. It's some way off RD's asking price but they aren't going to up it. They are happy to sit and wait for him to come down to them.
In the meantime there are no other concrete bids. RD or actually his man (Van Truck) is madly searching round for anyone who has money and an interest in football - in the hope one will offer a higher bid. I imagine a few probably take up the offer of a free tour of the valley etc. Doesn't necessarily mean serious interest.
One of 2 things will happen. Someone will come in and offer a higher price - RD will bite their hand off for it. Or no one will come in and Roland will eventually lower his price and accept the Aussie bid.
If that's the case they should give Varney a call.
At least this guy doesn't sell all the best players and actually shells out on signings plus wants to get to the Premier League. Complete opposite to Roland.
This bloke is exactly the sort of idiot that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a football club but will undoubtedly fly through the Football League's tests.
Shocked by those of you slating the Forest fans and trying to put a positive spin on Fawaz. This bloke would be a tiny step up from Roland - less of a c$%t so just the ineptitude to contend with.
He won’t be buying it. Won’t pay the £50 million plus all debts. Roland apparently said he still wants a say in the training ground too after he has sold it.
Oh did he......I don’t remember him saying that? Source please.
I can't find the post but I thought I read that the photo of Fawaz looking out over the Valley from the centre circle hospitality suite was taken on Monday with De Truck man in the background? Doesn't mean to say it wasn't him but the latter only works Tuesdsys to Thursdays. WIOTOS
Fawaz was 100% at The Valley yesterday (Wednesday)
Hope they cleaned off the pigeon shit on the West Stand staircases.
This bloke is exactly the sort of idiot that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a football club but will undoubtedly fly through the Football League's tests.
Shocked by those of you slating the Forest fans and trying to put a positive spin on Fawaz. This bloke would be a tiny step up from Roland - less of a c$%t so just the ineptitude to contend with.
Depressing.
Haven’t seen anyone ‘slating’ the Forest fans..... a few questioning their voracity maybe.....but no one actually ‘slating’ them as you describe it.
This bloke is exactly the sort of idiot that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a football club but will undoubtedly fly through the Football League's tests.
Shocked by those of you slating the Forest fans and trying to put a positive spin on Fawaz. This bloke would be a tiny step up from Roland - less of a c$%t so just the ineptitude to contend with.
Depressing.
Haven’t seen anyone ‘slating’ the Forest fans..... a few questioning their voracity maybe.....but no one actually ‘slating’ them as you describe it.
Apart the public schoolboy calling them all islamophobic in the same way he accused critics of Sarr of being racially motivated.
Hi, I'm a Forest fan and I tried to comment yesterday when the picture was first posted to try and give you a bit of background and context to Fawaz. I don't know if there is anything to this "takeover" so excuse me if I ramble, there is a lot to talk about.
Firstly, I think the Forest fans warning you off need context of your situation. Fawaz would be an improvement on your current guy because at the very least he will pretend to care and will have good intentions for a while. That's about it though.
His naivety is malicious, and he will no doubt tell you that he's "learnt from his mistakes", but we heard it in a press release every 3 months, just after he made a blunder. He spent his final 2 years telling us he would introduce a footballing structure, CEO, whatever else but to no avail. The ones he had before that had either resigned or been sacked.
I see Hassan has been brought up, the fact he is involved would suggest he hasn't changed. The guy was a scoreboard operator at al Qadsia (his club in Kuwait), and came to Forest as an unofficial CEO (because he would fail the fit and proper persons test), he was under investigation several times but nothing came of it. He pretty much is al-Hasawi's "eyes and ears". To show his naivety and his incompetence, he would buy footballs from the local ASDA as he thought the football league were charging too much, and he would take money from the club shop to buy toilet roll.
It's all a bit doom and gloom so far but there is something I noticed in the picture, which is his cousin Omar al Hasawi. It's an utterly bizarre case, he started as the Chairman at Forest for the first 6 months, it was going really well. He put a squad together with Sean O'Driscoll in 6 months that got us on the edge of the playoffs, things were looking professional and they were showing ambition. Then, Omar disappeared. Quite literally. Nothing from the club, he just vanished and Fawaz took over as Chairman. A few years later it emerged Omar sued the family (or the other way around, I can't remember), so if he is involved, it could surely be a positive? - Fawaz' first actions were sacking O'Driscoll after a 4-2 win against Leeds and in 7th place, then appointed Alec McLeish, who left within a couple of weeks after having a load of Kuwaiti players pushed on him (and various other things) then he brought in Billy Davies after a clamor for his return on social media.
He then brought in Stuart Pearce and an Aston Villa CEO to repair the damage, Pearce was an absolute club legend here, he backed him in the market, we were sat top after 6 games and 6 months later he was sacked, and the CEO had resigned. Then came the transfer embargo and no investment years, for his final 2 and a half years the club was run on player sales (constantly lying to managers about it) and it appeared the money had dried up. Someone mentioned that he is worth over 1 billion - not a chance. He invested a lot but he earnt most of it back through player sales and the sale of the club.
In came Evangelos Marinakis of summer 2016, somebody with a dodgy history but a proven track record of running a club. The takeover was at an advanced stage and it looked like he would struggle to pass the FPP test so Fawaz panicked, sold Oliver Burke for £13m without telling anybody and the deal went kaput. Marinakis came in and employed the manager (Montainer) and a DoF (Pedro Pereira), two pretty big names at the time, but it quickly became clear there was no money available and they didn't understand the English game. The result of that was a huge batch of free foreign players that weren't up to scratch. About 3 weeks into the season Fawaz came out and said Montanier wasn't his manager (nice vote of confidence) and the whole season turned out to be an absolute mess. An American consortium came in and offered Forest fans lots of good things, new stand on the ground, Gary Rowett in as head coach with a proper structure above him, that deal was all but done, but again - the plug was pulled. Not even the American's knew why. Few months later, after just surviving relegation, Marinakis came back in and completed the takeover. It's taken us a year but we are a properly run club again.
Don't get me wrong, he doesn't have a relegation on his CV - but that was because investment in the early years. We had a decent squad and the academy saved Fawaz several times. Had he stayed longer we would have been relegated.
Fawaz' time here is a case of backing the wrong man, bad timing and incompetence. The first year or two were decent, but it turned into a disaster. Maybe he has learnt, if he does take you over that's what you would have to hope. However, I don't think he's going to invest huge amounts. I don't particularly think he has much money, and he would use the money he got from the Forest sale to fund you.
Oh, and if you have local businesses involved at your club, they won't get paid on time, you will get taken to court a lot and your players will always get paid late. Unless he introduces a structure.
The advantage of having such a wealthy owner is that we won't have to sell our best young players on the cheap.
It's what he was notorious for at Forest. Even when he didn't need too, and almost always at a cut price. That was every bodies frustration. If there was money on the table, a player would almost always go.
And with no background structure, he did as he felt and no doubt in my mind, all his sidekicks would agree with everything he said so make the decision easy for him.
Lots of knee jerk decisions made that wouldn't have been made with a proper boardroom structure.
This is vintage Fawaz, and the sort of thing you can expect to be a regular occurrence if he does take you over. Just the little things, that don't mean a lot in the grand scheme of things but they all add up over time.
Oliver Burke for £13m sounds a good deal now, when you consider how little he's played since returning to the UK from Leipzig
Depends how much the club actually saw of it though and if any of it was invested into the playing side. £11m for Lookman was a good deal but how much went on players?
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Shocked by those of you slating the Forest fans and trying to put a positive spin on Fawaz. This bloke would be a tiny step up from Roland - less of a c$%t so just the ineptitude to contend with.
Depressing.
Could all staff please be aware that site tours for potential ownership groups will be continuing this week.
Schedule Thursday 13/09/2018
09:30 - 11:45
Carson yeung representative walk around and live video link to Hong Kong state prison in crossbars.
12:30 - 14:45
Sepp Blatter and associates.* Please don't mention the world cup and Qatar climate conditions.
15:00 - 17:45
Freddie Shepherd.
Strictly male chaperone only and please laugh along with his women banter jokes.
If Fawaz comes up with the readies I don’t think Roland will give two hoots about the NDA being broken.
Seemed to be a bit delusional in that respect.
Source please.
"The Valley must be built on an Old Indian Burial Ground".
With Fawaz showing up at the valley, i can't see the wood for the trees.
Firstly, I think the Forest fans warning you off need context of your situation. Fawaz would be an improvement on your current guy because at the very least he will pretend to care and will have good intentions for a while. That's about it though.
His naivety is malicious, and he will no doubt tell you that he's "learnt from his mistakes", but we heard it in a press release every 3 months, just after he made a blunder. He spent his final 2 years telling us he would introduce a footballing structure, CEO, whatever else but to no avail. The ones he had before that had either resigned or been sacked.
I see Hassan has been brought up, the fact he is involved would suggest he hasn't changed. The guy was a scoreboard operator at al Qadsia (his club in Kuwait), and came to Forest as an unofficial CEO (because he would fail the fit and proper persons test), he was under investigation several times but nothing came of it. He pretty much is al-Hasawi's "eyes and ears". To show his naivety and his incompetence, he would buy footballs from the local ASDA as he thought the football league were charging too much, and he would take money from the club shop to buy toilet roll.
It's all a bit doom and gloom so far but there is something I noticed in the picture, which is his cousin Omar al Hasawi. It's an utterly bizarre case, he started as the Chairman at Forest for the first 6 months, it was going really well. He put a squad together with Sean O'Driscoll in 6 months that got us on the edge of the playoffs, things were looking professional and they were showing ambition. Then, Omar disappeared. Quite literally. Nothing from the club, he just vanished and Fawaz took over as Chairman. A few years later it emerged Omar sued the family (or the other way around, I can't remember), so if he is involved, it could surely be a positive? - Fawaz' first actions were sacking O'Driscoll after a 4-2 win against Leeds and in 7th place, then appointed Alec McLeish, who left within a couple of weeks after having a load of Kuwaiti players pushed on him (and various other things) then he brought in Billy Davies after a clamor for his return on social media.
Davies was then given full control and was running Forest like Kim Jong Ill, banning everybody, sacking long serving staff and putting his suspended lawyer cousin in place as a Director. Here is a piece about his time here: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/billy-davies-nippy-sweetie-nottingham-forest
He then brought in Stuart Pearce and an Aston Villa CEO to repair the damage, Pearce was an absolute club legend here, he backed him in the market, we were sat top after 6 games and 6 months later he was sacked, and the CEO had resigned. Then came the transfer embargo and no investment years, for his final 2 and a half years the club was run on player sales (constantly lying to managers about it) and it appeared the money had dried up. Someone mentioned that he is worth over 1 billion - not a chance. He invested a lot but he earnt most of it back through player sales and the sale of the club.
In came Evangelos Marinakis of summer 2016, somebody with a dodgy history but a proven track record of running a club. The takeover was at an advanced stage and it looked like he would struggle to pass the FPP test so Fawaz panicked, sold Oliver Burke for £13m without telling anybody and the deal went kaput. Marinakis came in and employed the manager (Montainer) and a DoF (Pedro Pereira), two pretty big names at the time, but it quickly became clear there was no money available and they didn't understand the English game. The result of that was a huge batch of free foreign players that weren't up to scratch. About 3 weeks into the season Fawaz came out and said Montanier wasn't his manager (nice vote of confidence) and the whole season turned out to be an absolute mess. An American consortium came in and offered Forest fans lots of good things, new stand on the ground, Gary Rowett in as head coach with a proper structure above him, that deal was all but done, but again - the plug was pulled. Not even the American's knew why. Few months later, after just surviving relegation, Marinakis came back in and completed the takeover. It's taken us a year but we are a properly run club again.
Don't get me wrong, he doesn't have a relegation on his CV - but that was because investment in the early years. We had a decent squad and the academy saved Fawaz several times. Had he stayed longer we would have been relegated.
Fawaz' time here is a case of backing the wrong man, bad timing and incompetence. The first year or two were decent, but it turned into a disaster. Maybe he has learnt, if he does take you over that's what you would have to hope. However, I don't think he's going to invest huge amounts. I don't particularly think he has much money, and he would use the money he got from the Forest sale to fund you.
Oh, and if you have local businesses involved at your club, they won't get paid on time, you will get taken to court a lot and your players will always get paid late. Unless he introduces a structure.
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And with no background structure, he did as he felt and no doubt in my mind, all his sidekicks would agree with everything he said so make the decision easy for him.
Lots of knee jerk decisions made that wouldn't have been made with a proper boardroom structure.