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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    happyvalley said:
    1532 Anne Boleyn is made Marquess of Pembroke by Henry V111.
    West Ham fan
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,998
    edited February 2019
    Henry Irving said:
    happyvalley said:
    1532 Anne Boleyn is made Marquess of Pembroke by Henry V111.
    West Ham fan
    Lived in Greenwich - Charlton fan 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    stonemuse said:
    Henry Irving said:
    happyvalley said:
    1532 Anne Boleyn is made Marquess of Pembroke by Henry V111.
    West Ham fan
    Lived in Greenwich - Charlton fan 
    Lived in Hever castle to bridge angels fan 
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    edited February 2019
    Error
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8421156/blackpool-fans-rejoice-oyston-out-12-point/amp/
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Although it could hurt us, I hope they do not get points deducted.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Quite apt that they play us straight afterwards.
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    edited February 2019
    cfgs said:
    Quite apt that they play us straight afterwards.
    Could piss the players off knowing it effectively finishes their season if they get 12 points deducted 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    CafcSCP said:
    cfgs said:
    Quite apt that they play us straight afterwards.
    Could piss the players off knowing it effectively finishes their season if they get 12 points deducted 
    I meant as in that they get their club back, potentially anyway, and they play us that have shared their fight straight afterwards.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Redrobo said:
    Although it could hurt us, I hope they do not get points deducted.
    Why do you hope they don't get a points deduction?  If they don't, it would take away the threat of one of the most obvious pitfalls of receivership, which some unscrupulous owners have considered in the past.  

    Going bust for a football club isn't as bad as it is for the hundreds of small businesses that supply the club, who take an unfair financial hit.  A big points deduction is a good way of making owners think twice before pulling the rug under suppliers.  So seeing a club getting away with it would be a very bad, backward step. 
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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    In my opinion, the closest RD came to getting serious about selling is when he felt pressure in his own country and even near his own home from protesters. Unless fans reach the point where they are willing to get him to come to his senses by direct action and the vague threat such action could get worse, then I think this thread hits 5000 pages. Until that happens, this thread’s main purpose is as a sedative for disappointed fans. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Chizz said:
    Redrobo said:
    Although it could hurt us, I hope they do not get points deducted.
    Why do you hope they don't get a points deduction?  If they don't, it would take away the threat of one of the most obvious pitfalls of receivership, which some unscrupulous owners have considered in the past.  

    Going bust for a football club isn't as bad as it is for the hundreds of small businesses that supply the club, who take an unfair financial hit.  A big points deduction is a good way of making owners think twice before pulling the rug under suppliers.  So seeing a club getting away with it would be a very bad, backward step. 
    But again its the fans and the club / players that are taking the punishment when it should be solely pointed at the direction of the owner for not running the club properly

    Its why a points deduction is a bit harsh for Administration
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Chizz said:
    Redrobo said:
    Although it could hurt us, I hope they do not get points deducted.
    Why do you hope they don't get a points deduction?  If they don't, it would take away the threat of one of the most obvious pitfalls of receivership, which some unscrupulous owners have considered in the past.  

    Going bust for a football club isn't as bad as it is for the hundreds of small businesses that supply the club, who take an unfair financial hit.  A big points deduction is a good way of making owners think twice before pulling the rug under suppliers.  So seeing a club getting away with it would be a very bad, backward step. 
    I fully accept all you say, but this feels different.

  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
  • NorthumberlandAddick
    NorthumberlandAddick Posts: 300
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    Totally agree 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,998
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    Indeed 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    If they make one exception to the deduction they risk other tactical attempts surely
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Send your questions for the next fans forum to CAST

    https://www.castrust.org/2019/02/fans-forum-20th-february-your-questions-please/
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,619
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    Wouldn’t they then be setting themselves up to be sued by Oyston who might claim he would have put Blackpool into administration before but didn’t want to see the team be deducted 12 points ?...and possibly every other club that has been deducted 12 points in the past might start wondering if they have a case as well... and then there’s the potential for Blackpool to make the play offs still at the expense of another team. Those 12 points will stop that. If it was charlton that lost out on a play off place because Blackpool didn’t get deducted 12 points I’d like to think Roland would have his lawyers on it ASAP 
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  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    Wouldn’t they then be setting themselves up to be sued by Oyston who might claim he would have put Blackpool into administration before but didn’t want to see the team be deducted 12 points ?...and possibly every other club that has been deducted 12 points in the past might start wondering if they have a case as well... and then there’s the potential for Blackpool to make the play offs still at the expense of another team. Those 12 points will stop that. If it was charlton that lost out on a play off place because Blackpool didn’t get deducted 12 points I’d like to think Roland would have his lawyers on it ASAP 
    And we all know he knows an exceptionally talented lawyer...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Katrien new CEO at Blackpool?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    Wouldn’t they then be setting themselves up to be sued by Oyston who might claim he would have put Blackpool into administration before but didn’t want to see the team be deducted 12 points ?...and possibly every other club that has been deducted 12 points in the past might start wondering if they have a case as well... and then there’s the potential for Blackpool to make the play offs still at the expense of another team. Those 12 points will stop that. If it was charlton that lost out on a play off place because Blackpool didn’t get deducted 12 points I’d like to think Roland would have his lawyers on it ASAP 
    All of that depends on how the rule is framed.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    Airman Brown said:
    The points deduction is surely to offset an advantage gained by spending beyond a club’s means. There has been no advantage to Blackpool.

    The EFL should use its discretion to waive the punishment, but I’m not confident it will.
    As I mentioned on the other thread, Blackpool fans have done a lot of work with the Football Ombudsman, it was he who got the EFL to start talking directly to them (and implicitly talking to us subsequently). I would hope that he will weigh in on their behalf now. 
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    Horsfield9 said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Just had Gary Lineker in the cab. He knows nothing!!! Useless 

    If you get Rachel Riley or Gemma Arterton in the back and the're feeling a bit frisky , give us a ring !!
    Thats one for the bank!
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    It is not set in stone so it is up to the FA to decide.

    I would think it will be all 12 or nothing, and not somewhere in between.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Or the FA could discover their human side and say to Blackpool, 'Lads, you've had a shocking time of it, so we're giving you a12 point bonus'.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Henry Irving said:
    Katrien new CEO at Blackpool?
    That’s just sick ;-)
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Joe mason first signing for our new owners.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1533 Queen Elizabeth 1 born
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