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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • edited July 2019
    I hate SJ but love how he just ripped into RD
  • Simon Jordan killing it again.
    Absolutely.
  • He suspects a deal will be done, but not at £50 m
  • Chizz said:
    It's a bit like buying a house.  

    First, you choose the house you're going to buy.  Then, you negotiate a price with the vendor.  Then, the vendor turns out to be demonstrably bonkers.  So, you go to the Winchester, have a pint and wait for it all to blow over.  


    Lovely house analogy Chizz.

    When is your book:

    Selling a football club for dummies coming out ?

  • Sj talks a lot of sense for a nigel
  • I actually quite like SJ
    Scott Wagstaff or Danny Green?


    Richard Murray or Simon Jordan?  :neutral:


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  • Did SJ speak directly to RD or was it a pre-recorded love-in with Jim White?
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  • Did SJ speak directly to RD or was it a pre-recorded love-in with Jim White?
    RD wasn't on in any form. Sounded like a behind closed doors friendly call with just JW. 
  • Has the possibility occured to anyone that Roland doesn't actually own the club at all and it's this tiny legal detail that's holding up everything .



    There were historic legal issues that the Aussies spent much spondulix on resolving way back when. I think you’re right, and this ownership issue dates back to the Jimenez era (as shown in the recent court case). 

  • edited July 2019
    He suspects a deal will be done, but not at £50 m
    Where does £50m come from? 
    It certainly was £33m (or possibly £30m) plus £7m for directors’ Loans, depending on who settles these. 
    Unless it’s different prices for different buyers.
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  • JamesSeed said:
    He suspects a deal will be done, but not at £50 m
    Where does £50m come from? 
    It certainly was £33m (or possibly £30m) plus £7m for directors’ Loans, depending on who settles these. 
    Rumours that Roland increased the price of the club upon promotion. Which actually in my opinion would be reasonable if the original price hadn’t been higher. Although it’s not as if he has contributed to any success and is not funding an appropriate Championship club. 
  • edited July 2019
    Hi @JamesSeed its the figure Simon Jordon mentioned when he was asked by JW what sort of figure RD was looking fro, on the radio this morning, when SJ said he knows one of the parties, what the deal structure is and he'd been 'invited' to be part of it.

    Edit Please note I'm paraphrasing as was listening to it at work and trying to pick out the salient bits.
  • Hi @JamesSeed its the figure Simon Jordon mentioned when he was asked by JW what sort of figure RD was looking fro, on the radio this morning, when SJ said he knows one of the parties, what the deal structure is and he'd been 'invited' to be part of it.

    Edit Please note I'm paraphrasing as was listening to it at work and trying to pick out the salient bits.
    which he got from yesterday's Standard.
  • Solidgone said:
    Where’s Acworth when you need him 😉
    Last i saw he was on twitter announcing he's related to Henry VIII.
    Randy old Prince Hal sure fathered a load of bastards so that might just be one of Acworth's more likely tales. 
    It's more than just about everyone with some English ancestry is related to the royal family at some point.

    Each generation produces 2 or 3, maybe 5 or 6 offspring, who then produced a number of offspring and so on and so on for five centuries by which time Henry VIII has literally millions of descendants.
    (Is there a face palm emoji?)
    pearls before swine
    comedy gold in a sense-of-humour vacuum 
  • Chizz said:
    It's a bit like buying a house.  

    First, you choose the house you're going to buy.  Then, you negotiate a price with the vendor.  Then, the vendor turns out to be demonstrably bonkers.  So, you go to the Winchester, have a pint and wait for it all to blow over.  


    Lovely house analogy Chizz.

    When is your book:

    Selling a football club for dummies coming out ?

    Imminent.  Just waiting for Roland to finish proofreading. 
  • It must be SJ's mate RM :smile:
  • Chizz said:
    Remember when it was announced that each buying party had their own price? And that the price had been agreed with each party? I've always felt that this meant Aussies would buy the club and lease back the stadium and ground for something like £30M. Dalman apparently wants the whole club and thus would be paying closer to the £60-65M Roland wants, up front. In my opinion, this is why the Aussies are still in the running... Roland is willing to slice this any way that works. The price and terms have not changed because he was always over-charging and has not backed away from that in the slightest way, it's just that we are in a higher division. Roland is likely quite happy to have the Aussies because he gets to make a profit off hard assets and no longer has to worry about the club.
    No-one is paying £60m-£65m up front.  Or anywhere close to that.  Roland may be utterly bonkers, but there is no way he would still be negotiating if anyone offered that.  He'd reach past LdT and rip Dalman's arm off for that amount. 

    You can trust me on that.  And I know the square root of fuck all about what's going on.  
    So what is the square root of fuck all? 
    A shed load more than all but 2 or 3 posters have ever known about any of this at all.
  • edited July 2019
    JamesSeed said:
    He suspects a deal will be done, but not at £50 m
    Where does £50m come from? 
    It certainly was £33m (or possibly £30m) plus £7m for directors’ Loans, depending on who settles these. 
    Rumours that Roland increased the price of the club upon promotion. Which actually in my opinion would be reasonable if the original price hadn’t been higher. Although it’s not as if he has contributed to any success and is not funding an appropriate Championship club. 
    That came from me. Price went up by £7m with Patrick’s winner. Despite promise not to raise the price.
  • Chizz said:
    Remember when it was announced that each buying party had their own price? And that the price had been agreed with each party? I've always felt that this meant Aussies would buy the club and lease back the stadium and ground for something like £30M. Dalman apparently wants the whole club and thus would be paying closer to the £60-65M Roland wants, up front. In my opinion, this is why the Aussies are still in the running... Roland is willing to slice this any way that works. The price and terms have not changed because he was always over-charging and has not backed away from that in the slightest way, it's just that we are in a higher division. Roland is likely quite happy to have the Aussies because he gets to make a profit off hard assets and no longer has to worry about the club.
    No-one is paying £60m-£65m up front.  Or anywhere close to that.  Roland may be utterly bonkers, but there is no way he would still be negotiating if anyone offered that.  He'd reach past LdT and rip Dalman's arm off for that amount. 

    You can trust me on that.  And I know the square root of fuck all about what's going on.  
    So what is the square root of fuck all? 
    A shed load more than all but 2 or 3 posters have ever known about any of this at all.
    Is "a shed load more than all but 2 or 3" a lot?  Or not very many? 
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Roland Out Forever!