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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.0 -
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.0 -
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.0 -
Irish consortium you say??2
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Thank you.iainment said:
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today.4 -
wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest.blackpool72 said:
Thank you.iainment said:
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today.1 -
Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface5
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Fair enough @JamesSeedJamesSeed said:
Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?JamesSeed said:
Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.
In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.
Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football.
Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open.
I’ll.say one thing though. I’ve generally been quite open minded with regards the Aussies approach (still am to a degree as I don’t think I know enough details).
However you have an ‘in’ and regular contact with a key member of this group. You gain more information from them than it seems anyone else and whether intentionally or unintentionally are seen as their public voice into the Charlton community.
If in your unique position you say that you would actually favour a rival group / individual, that is indeed quite telling and effectively gives credibility to others (who are not as well connected as you) concerns and fears in relation to the Aussie bid.11 -
I get mine from the baby section in Wilkos, only 70pi_b_b_o_r_g said:
wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest.blackpool72 said:
Thank you.iainment said:
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today.0 -
Thanks mate.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface
I always take your advice. I'll try it in the morning.1 -
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What if you only have a walk in shower?i_b_b_o_r_g said:Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface2 -
Terrible for the environment so, for 70 pence, you can wind the tree huggers up an allElfsborgAddick said:
I get mine from the baby section in Wilkos, only 70pi_b_b_o_r_g said:
wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest.blackpool72 said:
Thank you.iainment said:
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today.0 -
And a good afternoon to you too Stu!Stu_of_Kunming said:
You may think that, many people don't.JamesSe%ed said:
I think he’s mixing it up with the post sale model.Uboat said:
Right, but what he says is:blackpool72 said:
Not really as Muir has stated he only wants to put in about 10 % of the money.Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.
How many people do you reckon, when Muir is part of the consortium, and he’s apparently richer than Roland?
The ‘post sale strategy’ is multiple investors ‘none of whom are rich enough to buy the club on their own’. I’m pretty sure that is what he’s confusing it with. But if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. 👍0 -
Not my scene to wind people up mate.....i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Terrible for the environment so, for 70 pence, you can wind the tree huggers up an allElfsborgAddick said:
I get mine from the baby section in Wilkos, only 70pi_b_b_o_r_g said:
wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest.blackpool72 said:
Thank you.iainment said:
Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.blackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today.4 -
Dublin (‘Dubh linn’) = Black poolblackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
I think Dubh is pronounced with a ‘v’, and sounds rather beautiful and romantic, whereas Blackpool just sounds a bid ordinary.1 -
Had to read that a couple of times to checkElfsborgAddick said:
What if you only have a walk in shower?i_b_b_o_r_g said:Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface16 -
Ordinary a.JamesSeed said:
Dublin (‘Dubh linn’) = Black poolblackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
I think Dubh is pronounced with a ‘v’, and sounds rather beautiful and romantic, whereas Blackpool just sounds a bid ordinary.
Fcuk it how can I change my username to Dubh pronounced with a V1 -
?roseandcrown said:
Had to read that a couple of times to checkElfsborgAddick said:
What if you only have a walk in shower?i_b_b_o_r_g said:Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface0 -
Haven’t heard that one.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah but we keep also being told that it don't matter what one is worth, he might only want to invest £1mUboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.0 -
Or else it shows how little I really know ;-)AFKABartram said:
Fair enough @JamesSeedJamesSeed said:
Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?JamesSeed said:
Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.
In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.
Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football.
Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open.
I’ll.say one thing though. I’ve generally been quite open minded with regards the Aussies approach (still am to a degree as I don’t think I know enough details).
However you have an ‘in’ and regular contact with a key member of this group. You gain more information from them than it seems anyone else and whether intentionally or unintentionally are seen as their public voice into the Charlton community.
If in your unique position you say that you would actually favour a rival group / individual, that is indeed quite telling and effectively gives credibility to others (who are not as well connected as you) concerns and fears in relation to the Aussie bid.
One thing I will say about the Aussies, whether they have the dough or not, they’re good sorts. Sports mad, enthusiastic and honest. In the world of football ownership those qualities are not to be dismissed lightly.
And I should add, Dalman was being talked about as the ultimate dream owner at one time, one who was going to sweep the club off its feet, freeing us from the Roland yoke.3 -
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Bet you wish you had been in Dublin in 72 and not Blackpool 😀blackpool72 said:
Ordinary a.JamesSeed said:
Dublin (‘Dubh linn’) = Black poolblackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
I think Dubh is pronounced with a ‘v’, and sounds rather beautiful and romantic, whereas Blackpool just sounds a bid ordinary.
Fcuk it how can I change my username to Dubh pronounced with a Best
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Forgot to add “and skint”JamesSeed said:
Or else it shows how little I really know ;-)AFKABartram said:
Fair enough @JamesSeedJamesSeed said:
Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?JamesSeed said:
Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.
In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.
Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football.
Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open.
I’ll.say one thing though. I’ve generally been quite open minded with regards the Aussies approach (still am to a degree as I don’t think I know enough details).
However you have an ‘in’ and regular contact with a key member of this group. You gain more information from them than it seems anyone else and whether intentionally or unintentionally are seen as their public voice into the Charlton community.
If in your unique position you say that you would actually favour a rival group / individual, that is indeed quite telling and effectively gives credibility to others (who are not as well connected as you) concerns and fears in relation to the Aussie bid.
One thing I will say about the Aussies, whether they have the dough or not, they’re good sorts. Sports mad, enthusiastic and honest. In the world of football ownership those qualities are not to be dismissed lightly.1 -
Nah.raytreacy69 said:
Bet you wish you had been in Dublin in 72 and not Blackpool 😀blackpool72 said:
Ordinary a.JamesSeed said:
Dublin (‘Dubh linn’) = Black poolblackpool72 said:
Mr.Dublin ?JamesSeed said:
I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club.blackpool72 said:
Good I hope he does.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might.blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.
I think Dubh is pronounced with a ‘v’, and sounds rather beautiful and romantic, whereas Blackpool just sounds a bid ordinary.
Fcuk it how can I change my username to Dubh pronounced with a Best
Can't change my past and even if I could I wouldn't.
As you have known me for the best part of 50 years we might not have even met.0 -
About 40,000 "enthusiastic and honest" turned up at Wembley a few weeks back they don't have the cash to buy us either6
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1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.8
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Not a bad film considering it was made in 1879happyvalley said:1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.1 -
Not a lot of people know that.happyvalley said:1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.10 -
"You was only spose to blow the bloody doors off"0
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Who knows if any of this is correct, but I wouldn't be surprised.robinofottershaw said:Just seen the following on the other site written by someone called addicknz:
I dont post that often, and have mentioned before that I worked for both Australian and NZ Football a few years back. I have been in contact with them again for work reasons and happened to have a conversation about the Aussies trying to buy the Addicks.
It was explained to me that the group responsible for the purchase are showing an interest in a number of clubs globally of which Charlton is just one. They have never had any cash for the purchase and use negotiations with a football club as leverage to generate investors' interest. As things stand currently they have not managed to secure enough investment/interest to purchase a football club. Charlton has engaged with the Aussies more than any of their previous attempts and consequently they feel that they have a better chance of a purchase.
However there is still a massive hole in the funds available to purchase and it is thought unlikely that this will change. The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club. There are also questions over the ability to continue to support the club financially, post purchase (there are no plans to look for additional funds once sale is complete).
There is a Utopian view that once the sale is complete, the club will be launch pad for Aussie players trying to make it in the UK. The impact of this strategy on both Academy and player purchase is untested, but the concerns over ongoing finance after point of sale suggest that this has also has a cost saving approach (a bit like RD and his 'network' a while back).
The person I spoke with has no axe to grind and I dont doubt his info, but whether it is common knowledge or poetic license I am unsure.
The one thing that definitely seems inaccurate, is that Muir is definitely wealthy enough to purchase Charlton alone.
The issue of course is that he doesn't want to, so it's not a game changer whether he has the funds or not.2
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