I think a combination of Bowyer and Jackson taking temporary charge of the team, and the team getting to the play-offs, had far more to do with the suspension of protests than anything else. It certainly did from my perspective.
I think a combination of Bowyer and Jackson taking temporary charge of the team, and the team getting to the play-offs, had far more to do with the suspension of protests than anything else. It certainly did from my perspective.
I won't deny that the improvement on the field was a factor but the takeover rumours, with Murray's intervention supposedly adding credibility, happened before then and took the sting out of it just as people were becoming increasingly frustrated with scouse bullshit.
ex-director, one with loans that at some point need to be paid
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!
Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
I agree hence the use of the word 'supposedly.'
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.
ex-director, one with loans that at some point need to be paid
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!
Was that sale anything to do (coincidentlly!) with one of his own property development companies?
Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
I agree hence the use of the word 'supposedly.'
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.
None of it has anything to do with Rubashow, who is a junior figure and of no relevance. He certainly hasn’t been masterminding some deception to stifle protests. Do you really think he was responsible for Meire leaving, the detailed work carried out by PwC, Mishcon, and the public appearances of the two Muirs, McLeish and Murphy?
There are and have been two considerations - 1) is Duchatelet genuinely trying to sell the club and 2) would protests have commanded widespread support. As far as I’m concerned, the answers are yes and no.
If there is no takeover, Duchatelet will not enjoy the close season.
ex-director, one with loans that at some point need to be paid
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up. Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse. Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place. I’m pretty certain he lost a shed load of money in the Spanish property collapse of a few years back, which may well have prompted him having to sell when he did?
ex-director, one with loans that at some point need to be paid
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up. Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse. Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
Story I heard was that Bob W looked at that land and didn’t believe it had development potential - but that could be a version of didn’t want to proceed for other reasons. There was a plan to sell various assets to directors but it was abandoned I think because of the 2009 loans - the famous £7m. My timeline might be out on that though.
The house in Lansdowne Mews was acquired in 1998 and sold in 2010. That was critical land for the east stand and SE corner, both spectator access and viable construction methodology without affecting the pitch during the season.
What caught the staff out was the sale of the adjacent disabled parking - nobody on site knew until the new owner started using it. The deal was done at the end of Steve Waggott’s tenure in 2010 so the assumption is he knew, but never told the SMT. Steve Kavanagh wasn’t a director at that point, Peter Varney had gone.
Mick Everett was left trying to chase off the developer so the disabled parking could operate until it came to light the club had sold the land to him. Complete farce.
ex-director, one with loans that at some point need to be paid
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up. Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse. Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
Story I heard was that Bob W looked at that land and didn’t believe it had development potential - but that could be a version of didn’t want to proceed for other reasons. There was a plan to sell various assets to directors but it was abandoned I think because of the 2009 loans - the famous £7m. My timeline might be out on that though.
The house in Lansdowne Mews was acquired in 1998 and sold in 2010. That was critical land for the east stand and SE corner, both spectator access and viable construction methodology without affecting the pitch during the season.
Mick Everett was left trying to chase off the developer so the disabled parking could operate until it came to light the club had sold the land to him. Complete farce.
The day it happened, the new owners hired a couple of bully boys to stop disabled fans parking there or be charged a tenner. Some listened, some didn’t.
Mick did a good job, but basically the disabled parking was lost.
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@Davidsmith and now it seems Bob Whitehand have questioned how close a takeover really is.
Rubberbloke did his job well from the Club's perspective.
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.
There are and have been two considerations - 1) is Duchatelet genuinely trying to sell the club and 2) would protests have commanded widespread support. As far as I’m concerned, the answers are yes and no.
If there is no takeover, Duchatelet will not enjoy the close season.
Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse.
Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
I’m pretty certain he lost a shed load of money in the Spanish property collapse of a few years back, which may well have prompted him having to sell when he did?
The house in Lansdowne Mews was acquired in 1998 and sold in 2010. That was critical land for the east stand and SE corner, both spectator access and viable construction methodology without affecting the pitch during the season.
What caught the staff out was the sale of the adjacent disabled parking - nobody on site knew until the new owner started using it. The deal was done at the end of Steve Waggott’s tenure in 2010 so the assumption is he knew, but never told the SMT. Steve Kavanagh wasn’t a director at that point, Peter Varney had gone.
Mick Everett was left trying to chase off the developer so the disabled parking could operate until it came to light the club had sold the land to him. Complete farce.
No way will he play league one.
Loaned out next season then released.
I'll have him know, it's "THE supporters' site!"
Mick did a good job, but basically the disabled parking was lost.
Ta