Am I the only person who thinks that with so many false dawns we are generally being played? I hope Duchatelet is irritated by the continuing time passing and bills he must pay, and the money for my season ticket stays in my pocket until this is absolutely and unambiguously settled and he is gone. The Duchatelet years have been horrible, and there are certain weasel bullying useless nasty mendacious toads appointed at the club under his ownership that I would love to see the back of as well as Duchatelet. I believe there are a coterie of workers at the club that have bought in to the culture that fans ought to be treated with suspicion and distain, and that fans are seen as exploitable pieces of the chite. Root and branch slash and burn when I win the euromillions.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Being favorites for the take-over for so long, then turning up in Charton scarves and ties for the playoffs, if that's not giving anything away then I dont know what is. As I see it it's a done deal, apart from the announcement.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Being favorites for the take-over for so long, then turning up in Charton scarves and ties for the playoffs, if that's not giving anything away then I dont know what is. As I see it it's a done deal, apart from the announcement.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Being favorites for the take-over for so long, then turning up in Charton scarves and ties for the playoffs, if that's not giving anything away then I dont know what is. As I see it it's a done deal, apart from the announcement.
If its a done deal why not now announce it?
Could be for many reasons - EFL doing the Fit and Proper, tying up loose ends of changeover, exact payment methods to Roland etc, a lot we wouldnt know about I guess, Airman Brown would know more of that then me. It would be a stupid move to show up in club colours suddenly after hiding from limelight for so long, and then be told it was a false dawn.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
I think it's a completely reasonable assertion to make. Roland didn't know Varney from a hole in the ground when he first bought Charlton, even when Varney first approached regarding a sale he didn't seem to have a clue. Now he lives in everlasting fear of Varney's involvement with the club AFTER he's sold it? WTF is that all about? The only person who would be worried about that is someone who still plans on being here after Roland is gone, and we all know who that is.
I think it's a completely reasonable assertion to make. Roland didn't know Varney from a whole a hole in the ground when he first bought Charlton, even when Varney first approached regarding a sale he didn't seem to have a clue. Now he lives in everlasting fear of Varney's involvement with the club AFTER he's sold it? WTF is that all about? The only person who would be worried about that is someone who still plans on being here after Roland is gone, and we all know who that is.
I think it's a completely reasonable assertion to make. Roland didn't know Varney from a whole a hole in the ground when he first bought Charlton, even when Varney first approached regarding a sale he didn't seem to have a clue. Now he lives in everlasting fear of Varney's involvement with the club AFTER he's sold it? WTF is that all about? The only person who would be worried about that is someone who still plans on being here after Roland is gone, and we all know who that is.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
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I think I’m right in saying it only needs one of them to do that in order to scupper any thoughts in that direction i.e. they all have to be in agreement.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
Oh no!!!! Andrew Muir's great great great great grandfather was a convict! EFL block the deal as he's not a fit and proper person!
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
The EFL info I had was current when we discussed it at Rochdale - no reason to think it is now.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
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I hope Duchatelet is irritated by the continuing time passing and bills he must pay, and the money for my season ticket stays in my pocket until this is absolutely and unambiguously settled and he is gone.
The Duchatelet years have been horrible, and there are certain weasel bullying useless nasty mendacious toads appointed at the club under his ownership that I would love to see the back of as well as Duchatelet. I believe there are a coterie of workers at the club that have bought in to the culture that fans ought to be treated with suspicion and distain, and that fans are seen as exploitable pieces of the chite.
Root and branch slash and burn when I win the euromillions.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Anyone who is keeping schtum to protect the integrity of this sorry excuse of an owner needs to take a look at themselves.
If it's directly affecting you, let everyone know i say and let's start turning the screw.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
If its a done deal why not now announce it?
Waiting until the weekend to upstage the Royal wedding.
I think I’m right in saying it only needs one of them to do that in order to scupper any thoughts in that direction i.e. they all have to be in agreement.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
His wish to continue taking the piss needs to be matched with retaliation.