Bollocks to Roland The evil old scrote He's fucked us like others Left nothing of note We hope to be rid of him any time soon Just leave us and fuck off you Moro is loon.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
It's come from Belgium 20 twitter account which can get a bit exuberant at times but is generally well sourced and well meaning.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
"Stole money from the club"??? That is a slanderous accusation and if he is unable to prove it , said statement could leave him facing very serious legal ramifications!
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
It's come from Belgium 20 who are often wrong.
This is rather a snide comment. Who are you to decide who is right and who is wrong? What we do know is that this group have spent a lot of their own time and money trying to get rid of Roland so why don’t you just bore off.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Being favorites for the take-over for so long, then turning up in Charton scarves and ties for the playoffs, if that's not giving anything away then I dont know what is. As I see it it's a done deal, apart from the announcement.
The point is they're not announcing it are they, so clearly something holding things up, what is it?
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
It's come from Belgium 20 who are often wrong.
This is rather a snide comment. Who are you to decide who is right and who is wrong? What we do know is that this group have spent a lot of their own time and money trying to get rid of Roland so why don’t you just bore off.
Who am I to decide who is right or wrong? I’m someone who has seen numerous posts on twitter from them with wrong information, not really hard pal.
I'm not commenting on the work B20 have done, I think they're fantastic. I'm saying a lot of their info has been wrong. I won't bore off unfortunately.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
"Stole money from the club"??? That is a slanderous accusation and if he is unable to prove it , said statement could leave him facing very serious legal ramifications!
Personally, I think Roland has conflated Varney with Tony Fernandez and his shenanigans. Daisy had the wrong end of the stick, then passed it Roland. The old duffer thought Chris Powell was called Bart, it's not hard to believe he's got everything arse-about-face.
It's easy to let everyone continue in the misunderstanding though, which Murray could quite simply rectify. It suits his purposes after all, he's not the one telling lies and the anti-Varney agenda is served.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
Katrien and Varney had a rather public spat as well at one point didn't they? Don't think everything RD has heard about Varney has come from Murray to be fair i'm sure she has stuck her nose in as well.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
They are not “a group” of seven though, as you know. At least three of them wouldn’t put Murray out if he was on fire.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
They are not “a group” of seven though, as you know. At least three of them wouldn’t put Murray out if he was on fire.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
Oh no!!!! Andrew Muir's great great great great grandfather was a convict! EFL block the deal as he's not a fit and proper person!
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
I understood that they don't need to contact the ex Directors for a sale to be concluded.
So as I originally suggested, Bob is now Tweeting again questioning the current prospective buyers and whether they aren’t up to much as they cannot buy the ‘whole club’.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
I understood that they don't need to contact the ex Directors for a sale to be concluded.
From what I remember reading on here before - I think that's only true if they are being paid off. They need 7 agreements to roll over. Might be wrong.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
I understood that they don't need to contact the ex Directors for a sale to be concluded.
From what I remember reading on here before - I think that's only true if they are being paid off. They need 7 agreements to roll over. Might be wrong.
No agreement needed to roll over. I used to think that but it was clarified last year.
I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership. Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens. Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
They are not “a group” of seven though, as you know. At least three of them wouldn’t put Murray out if he was on fire.
I know but stating 7 wealthy businessmen,you would think 3 or 1 or 4 or whatever number individually would have their Lawyers on the case.
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Particularly after a long session in the Brewery.
Bollocks to Roland
The evil old scrote
He's fucked us like others
Left nothing of note
We hope to be rid of him any time soon
Just leave us and fuck off you Moro is loon.
And hope not to se Fixed that for you.
Someone else might but has nothing to sell.
I'm not commenting on the work B20 have done, I think they're fantastic. I'm saying a lot of their info has been wrong. I won't bore off unfortunately.
It's easy to let everyone continue in the misunderstanding though, which Murray could quite simply rectify. It suits his purposes after all, he's not the one telling lies and the anti-Varney agenda is served.
Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens.
Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
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