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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,633
    I'm reading but not posting because I can't be bothered to 'discuss' issues when I know which way I'm voting anyway.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    ThreadKiller said:

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    That list on the left is that on top of the Police officers that Ms Abbot has promised? I only ask as I read that she has called for 10,000 Officers in every ward in the country and we have 7,659 wards which means 76,590,000 Police officers. I'm not sure if that is in total or on top of what we already have.

    I just wonder how we will pay for it all?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    kings hill addick said:

    ThreadKiller said:

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    That list on the left is that on top of the Police officers that Ms Abbot has promised? I only ask as I read that she has called for 10,000 Officers in every ward in the country and we have 7,659 wards which means 76,590,000 Police officers. I'm not sure if that is in total or on top of what we already have.

    I just wonder how we will pay for it all?
    I wonder how we will man it all - free movement of labour is the only option.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    LargeAddick said:

    I'm reading but not posting because I can't be bothered to 'discuss' issues when I know which way I'm voting anyway.

    Yep think I'm going to lurk for the next few days and not post much. I'm more interested in the discussion as results start to emerge! #NuttallforPM #JustKidding
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    cabbles said:

    AddickUpNorth said:

    bobmunro said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    cabbles said:

    Fiiish said:

    This election is going one of three ways.

    1) Shy Tory syndrome rears its head again and May increases her majority, as was always expected. Corbyn is crushed and Labour finally ousts him. Most likely result.

    2) Reduced Tory majority or even hung Parliament. Wolves baying for May. Somewhat less likely.

    3) Labour is largest party. Very unlikely.

    Thursday 22.05 ought to be interesting like it was last time.

    It will be 1) for me. I went to bed on the evening of the 2015 election, woke up disappointed. I went to bed on the evening of the referendum vote, woke up disappointed. I went to bed on the evening of the US election and woke up disappointed. I can't see this being any different.

    I would love to see the Tories take a pasting, but can't see Labour getting enough votes. They've lost Scotland to Jimmy Cranky, that made up a lot of their seats in 2010 and before. The Tory voters aren't as vocal in the run to the election as Labour voters. There are millions out there that will just vote on the day, no fuss, no rallies etc.

    Would be great to see it be a lot tighter, I just won't get my hopes up
    Two things Cabbles...... clearly going to bed at these important times is effecting the results.... you snooze you lose :wink:

    Secondly I now need a new keyboard and am typing this on my phone as your jimmy cranky comment made me spit my tea out in laughter!
    Of more concern surely is that every time he goes to bed he wakes up disappointed!


    Not as concerned as his other half.
    I'm actually just about to get divorced.......








    :smiley:


    Oops. Sorry mate .
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,050
    Callumcafc said:

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    I'm not surprised Labour are pleading for the public to vote for the policies and don't vote for the leader.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    What I will say is I'm pretty disappointed with how uninformed the majority of other young people are. I know there is much more engagement form young people this time round and I know more will vote than usual but speaking to my peers I don't get the impression any of them have done any research other than what pops up on their news feed.

    They know who they are voting for and when they ask why they will mumble something about Tories only supporting the rich or they gave us brexit. Not saying their wrong to think that but ask them which policies they agree with or disagree with and there is silence. Literally how long does it take to skim read the billet pointed manifesto summaries on the BBC.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,050
    kings hill addick said:

    ThreadKiller said:

    image

    That list on the left is that on top of the Police officers that Ms Abbot has promised? I only ask as I read that she has called for 10,000 Officers in every ward in the country and we have 7,659 wards which means 76,590,000 Police officers. I'm not sure if that is in total or on top of what we already have.

    I just wonder how we will pay for it all?
    She did but I let that one go :wink:
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,050
    edited June 2017
    cantersaddick said:

    What I will say is I'm pretty disappointed with how uninformed the majority of other young people are. I know there is much more engagement form young people this time round and I know more will vote than usual but speaking to my peers I don't get the impression any of them have done any research other than what pops up on their news feed.

    They know who they are voting for and when they ask why they will mumble something about Tories only supporting the rich or they gave us brexit. Not saying their wrong to think that but ask them which policies they agree with or disagree with and there is silence. Literally how long does it take to skim read the billet pointed manifesto summaries on the BBC.

    My sons 25 & 22 have zero interest & don't vote.

    I don't understand personally.

    I suppose if your main interests are your phone, football, girls, your mates, watching netflix and playing PS4, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    Covered End said:

    cantersaddick said:

    What I will say is I'm pretty disappointed with how uninformed the majority of other young people are. I know there is much more engagement form young people this time round and I know more will vote than usual but speaking to my peers I don't get the impression any of them have done any research other than what pops up on their news feed.

    They know who they are voting for and when they ask why they will mumble something about Tories only supporting the rich or they gave us brexit. Not saying their wrong to think that but ask them which policies they agree with or disagree with and there is silence. Literally how long does it take to skim read the billet pointed manifesto summaries on the BBC.

    My sons 25 & 22 have zero interest & don't vote.

    I don't understand personally.

    I suppose if your main interests are football, girls, your mates, watching netflix and playing PS4, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.
    See those people I understand. What I don't get is the people who are 100% certain they will vote and who they are voting for but can only give very vague justifications for it.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,050
    cantersaddick said:

    Covered End said:

    cantersaddick said:

    What I will say is I'm pretty disappointed with how uninformed the majority of other young people are. I know there is much more engagement form young people this time round and I know more will vote than usual but speaking to my peers I don't get the impression any of them have done any research other than what pops up on their news feed.

    They know who they are voting for and when they ask why they will mumble something about Tories only supporting the rich or they gave us brexit. Not saying their wrong to think that but ask them which policies they agree with or disagree with and there is silence. Literally how long does it take to skim read the billet pointed manifesto summaries on the BBC.

    My sons 25 & 22 have zero interest & don't vote.

    I don't understand personally.

    I suppose if your main interests are football, girls, your mates, watching netflix and playing PS4, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.
    See those people I understand. What I don't get is the people who are 100% certain they will vote and who they are voting for but can only give very vague justifications for it.
    The same as most people tbf. CL is a bit different.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,768
    edited June 2017
    My son is 16 and is surprisingly interested and engaged. Doing lots of research online on top of revising for his GCSEs. It is a shame that engaged 16 year olds don't get a vote - if they are not, they won't - I think it could encourage them to take a bigger interest in what affects them as they get older.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,633
    I don't think the 18 to 25 vote will increase much, if at all, as it will be easier to stay in bed, go to the pub, play x box or search tinder instead.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
    edited June 2017
    LargeAddick said:

    I don't think the 18 to 25 vote will increase much, if at all, as it will be easier to stay in bed, go to the pub, play x box or search tinder instead.

    I'll be ashamed of my fellow 18-25 year olds if so.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,768
    prepare to be ashamed.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    Covered End said:

    cantersaddick said:

    Covered End said:

    cantersaddick said:

    What I will say is I'm pretty disappointed with how uninformed the majority of other young people are. I know there is much more engagement form young people this time round and I know more will vote than usual but speaking to my peers I don't get the impression any of them have done any research other than what pops up on their news feed.

    They know who they are voting for and when they ask why they will mumble something about Tories only supporting the rich or they gave us brexit. Not saying their wrong to think that but ask them which policies they agree with or disagree with and there is silence. Literally how long does it take to skim read the billet pointed manifesto summaries on the BBC.

    My sons 25 & 22 have zero interest & don't vote.

    I don't understand personally.

    I suppose if your main interests are football, girls, your mates, watching netflix and playing PS4, it doesn't really matter who's in charge.
    See those people I understand. What I don't get is the people who are 100% certain they will vote and who they are voting for but can only give very vague justifications for it.
    The same as most people tbf. CL is a bit different.
    I guess so. Seems my family are a bit different too then. I guess that's where my interest in it all comes from.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    LargeAddick said:

    I don't think the 18 to 25 vote will increase much, if at all, as it will be easier to stay in bed, go to the pub, play x box or search tinder instead.

    Sadly I think you're right. Despite all the social media-ing and a load more registering to vote I don't think it'll make that much of a difference.

    Me I'm travelling an hour and back just to vote. Am getting a free meal off my mum though so that should make it worth it!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,050
    I'm going over to Woolwich tomorrow to take my mother in law to the polling station.

    She's 89 and can barely put one foot in front of the other, after having a stroke 2 years ago.

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,709
    Covered End said:

    I'm going over to Woolwich tomorrow to take my mother in law to the polling station.

    She's 89 and can barely put one foot in front of the other, after having a stroke 2 years ago.

    Perfect cover for Jackson and crofts: )
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    Covered End said:

    I'm going over to Woolwich tomorrow to take my mother in law to the polling station.

    She's 89 and can barely put one foot in front of the other, after having a stroke 2 years ago.

    Just check which way she's voting first! ;)
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,012
    Callumcafc said:

    LargeAddick said:

    I don't think the 18 to 25 vote will increase much, if at all, as it will be easier to stay in bed, go to the pub, play x box or search tinder instead.

    I'll be ashamed of my fellow 18-25 year olds if so.
    Canterbury is a safe Tory seat despite the population being 70% students. Fact is not enough of us vote.
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    bobmunro said:

    Callumcafc said:

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    I think that's the most natural looking smile I've ever seen on Gordon Brown's face.

    Love the pig in front of Call Me Dave and not the most flattering picture of Saint Theresa.
    You're not wrong. She look s like she's lost her Dalmatians whilst getting ready for a cameo appearance in The Addams Family!!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,494
    The Naylor review is happening people.
    And it's not good.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,373
    This will obviously fall on deaf ears at best here, but I present a defence of that woman you love to hate: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,261
    cantersaddick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    LargeAddick said:

    I don't think the 18 to 25 vote will increase much, if at all, as it will be easier to stay in bed, go to the pub, play x box or search tinder instead.

    I'll be ashamed of my fellow 18-25 year olds if so.
    Canterbury is a safe Tory seat despite the population being 70% students. Fact is not enough of us vote.
    Spend time night mobilising them. Do they still have the chat room UKC Misc. spread the word
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Leuth said:

    This will obviously fall on deaf ears at best here, but I present a defence of that woman you love to hate: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/

    Pardon????
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Leuth said:

    This will obviously fall on deaf ears at best here, but I present a defence of that woman you love to hate: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/

    Bernie Grant, a face from the past
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
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