There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
If people are too bitter to see that the club is changing and making an effort to repair the damage that the owner has caused, then I don't think they are being objective.
I accept that many fans have been very hurt by the past 3 years, me included, but do we want the club to prosper again or do we not ?
I would like the fans to all pull in the same direction and try and bring back the good times.
I criticise no one.
I understand your point of view but if I'd been in a relationship for 4 years in which my partner had patronised & lied to me, sold my most treasured belongings and kept the profits, looked to turn my house into flats and they had a bit on the side in Northeast Belgium of 'equal' affection - no amount of grovelling or freebies would win back my trust or devotion. They can all still **** off.
personally it does look good, but a new kit and a fancy box for a season ticket, doesn't undo the bad that they've done.
Of course it doesnt, but taken in isolation it's a good thing, an improvement on fan communication and marketing. Damned if they do, damned if they don't, IF they are truly learning lessons, they have to start somewhere. Senior players have stated to KR that the moral and squad atmosphere is the best in years, we seem to be signing decent players, and retained our star player, with the promise of more to come. The regime have a hell of a lot to answer for on every level, and IMO public apologies, but credit where it's due so far this pre season, it just feels different and more positive than for a long time.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
If they ignored the 25th anniversary come December, would you not call them out on it? Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
It's a little bit grating because you know they are simply trying to hook us with the only thing they've got as the actual team and manager are pretty terrible.
@Henry Irving If nobody else has offered/offers, I will donate the whole package/box to the museum at the end of the season, including ST and wallet etc. Remind me in April/May next year.
Thanks E, that would be great.
We have a good relationship with Hummel so hope we can get a box from them but if not then that would be great.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
They have every right to as the current owners of the football club whether you like it or not
Looks very nice and a good gesture , FairPlay ....
If they came out and held their hands up and without using the crude language I will , admitted they had been a complete bunch of inept clueless , who had fucked up sooooo bad with sooo many terrible decisions starting with Kermo and the treatment of SCP and disrespectful comments from that inept twat KM and apologised for ignoring emails from fans and sponsors etc etc Then just then maybe the redemption process could begin
But let's face it they are lame and have committed scars to our club that will take years to heal .A few token gestures may work for some of those who can look the other way to their wrongs but proper sincereness in admitting their failings is what would make me feel they are genuine rather than being pushed by a PR firm to attempt to cover over their natural wankness.
If you can't be genuine then fuck off with your clueless guessing game
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
It's a little bit grating because you know they are simply trying to hook us with the only thing they've got as the actually team and manager are pretty terrible.
How can you say the manager and team are rubbish before the season has started. I think the manger is decent and the squad is improving. I think under a different owner people would see things differently
If people are too bitter to see that the club is changing and making an effort to repair the damage that the owner has caused, then I don't think they are being objective.
I accept that many fans have been very hurt by the past 3 years, me included, but do we want the club to prosper again or do we not ?
I would like the fans to all pull in the same direction and try and bring back the good times.
I criticise no one.
Changing and making an effort yeah? Have a look at our squad, have a look at the fact we have no senior goal keeper, have a look at the fact we've had next to none of the Lookman money, have a look at the youth players we've sold, have a look at last season, have a look at the league we are in, have a look at season ticket sales.
Too many people get suckered in by some shit gimmick, nothing has changed, they will not change and we will never be a successful club under them. FACT.
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
Damn ... I'm missing out on a red box by not renewing my ST
That's your loss then - some on here who probably share some of your sentiments at least have the good grace to acknowledge that the club is trying to move in the right direction but if you wish to continually hold a grudge that's your choice.Others appear to move on .Life is to short enjoy when you can.COYR
The box contains: - a season ticket which I will use - a red and white scarf which will keep me nice and warm in the winter months - a calendar with fixtures already entered which will be handy and sit on my desk - and a set of strange hexagonal cards promoting match day hospitality, held together by two large metal rings. No idea what their function is. Any ideas?
Cheers for this thread its cleared up my confusion.
Just got back from watching Dunkirk and have a missed Royal Mail card, couldnt think of anything I'd ordered and usually the Season-Ticket is in an envelope
There really milking this back to the valley stuff which is pissing me off as they have no right to it, cunts, here before you and will be here long after you've gone!.
It's a little bit grating because you know they are simply trying to hook us with the only thing they've got as the actually team and manager are pretty terrible.
How can you say the manager and team are rubbish before the season has started. I think the manger is decent and the squad is improving. I think under a different owner people would see things differently
Because I saw the manager and the team last season and nothing of significance has happened in the last eight weeks to change my mind.
My season ticket has been renewed anyways and I do appreciate the gesture they are trying to make, but as I said I feel like they are going OTT on the "Back at the Valley" thing a bit because they basically have no other cards to play.
I have no use for a calendar, scarf, advertising cards, a red box or a season ticket. Nice touch but they, (the owner and his staff), will have to have a stellar couple of years to get me back full time. I am also slightly miffed that a PR company are using some of my best memories and associating them with the current vermin.
If people are too bitter to see that the club is changing and making an effort to repair the damage that the owner has caused, then I don't think they are being objective.
I accept that many fans have been very hurt by the past 3 years, me included, but do we want the club to prosper again or do we not ?
I would like the fans to all pull in the same direction and try and bring back the good times.
I criticise no one.
Changing and making an effort yeah? Have a look at our squad, have a look at the fact we have no senior goal keeper, have a look at the fact we've had next to none of the Lookman money, have a look at the youth players we've sold, have a look at last season, have a look at the league we are in, have a look at season ticket sales.
Too many people get suckered in by some shit gimmick, nothing has changed, they will not change and we will never be a successful club under them. FACT.
Enjoy your calendar.
I don't think it's a case of being suckered in. It's a harmless, even dare I say it nice positive gesture. I would imagine kids will love it. But pointless whining about something that's basically good detracts from complaining against the real issues and can only be used by them to make us look petty and a bit pathetic.
If people are too bitter to see that the club is changing and making an effort to repair the damage that the owner has caused, then I don't think they are being objective.
I accept that many fans have been very hurt by the past 3 years, me included, but do we want the club to prosper again or do we not ?
I would like the fans to all pull in the same direction and try and bring back the good times.
I criticise no one.
Changing and making an effort yeah? Have a look at our squad, have a look at the fact we have no senior goal keeper, have a look at the fact we've had next to none of the Lookman money, have a look at the youth players we've sold, have a look at last season, have a look at the league we are in, have a look at season ticket sales.
Too many people get suckered in by some shit gimmick, nothing has changed, they will not change and we will never be a successful club under them. FACT.
Enjoy your calendar.
I don't think it's a case of being suckered in. It's a harmless, even dare I say it nice positive gesture. I would imagine kids will love it. But pointless whining about something that's basically good detracts from complaining against the real issues and can only be used by them to make us look petty and a bit pathetic.
This. It's a nice gift in a nice box.
It is neither evidence of significant regime change or of continuing incompetence.
Good things have often happened under this regime and nearly all have been when outside agencies such as the community trust, the pitch fitting company or, as in this case Hummel and Elite, have been allowed to control them.
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't, IF they are truly learning lessons, they have to start somewhere.
Senior players have stated to KR that the moral and squad atmosphere is the best in years, we seem to be signing decent players, and retained our star player, with the promise of more to come.
The regime have a hell of a lot to answer for on every level, and IMO public apologies, but credit where it's due so far this pre season, it just feels different and more positive than for a long time.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Just wow
That's nothing short of ridiculous
We have a good relationship with Hummel so hope we can get a box from them but if not then that would be great.
It should be seen as a nice gesture but due to past behaviours they will always get criticism no matter what they do.
If they came out and held their hands up and without using the crude language I will , admitted they had been a complete bunch of inept clueless , who had fucked up sooooo bad with sooo many terrible decisions starting with Kermo and the treatment of SCP and disrespectful comments from that inept twat KM and apologised for ignoring emails from fans and sponsors etc etc
Then just then maybe the redemption process could begin
But let's face it they are lame and have committed scars to our club that will take years to heal .A few token gestures may work for some of those who can look the other way to their wrongs but proper sincereness in admitting their failings is what would make me feel they are genuine rather than being pushed by a PR firm to attempt to cover over their natural wankness.
If you can't be genuine then fuck off with your clueless guessing game
Too many people get suckered in by some shit gimmick, nothing has changed, they will not change and we will never be a successful club under them. FACT.
Enjoy your calendar.
- a season ticket which I will use
- a red and white scarf which will keep me nice and warm in the winter months
- a calendar with fixtures already entered which will be handy and sit on my desk
- and a set of strange hexagonal cards promoting match day hospitality, held together by two large metal rings. No idea what their function is. Any ideas?
Just got back from watching Dunkirk and have a missed Royal Mail card, couldnt think of anything I'd ordered and usually the Season-Ticket is in an envelope
My season ticket has been renewed anyways and I do appreciate the gesture they are trying to make, but as I said I feel like they are going OTT on the "Back at the Valley" thing a bit because they basically have no other cards to play.
Nice touch but they, (the owner and his staff), will have to have a stellar couple of years to get me back full time.
I am also slightly miffed that a PR company are using some of my best memories and associating them with the current vermin.
It is neither evidence of significant regime change or of continuing incompetence.
Good things have often happened under this regime and nearly all have been when outside agencies such as the community trust, the pitch fitting company or, as in this case Hummel and Elite, have been allowed to control them.
But that doesn't stop the box being a nice box.