Right I have been sat on information for a while its the reason I started on this thread by slagging Solly off and over the past month or so I havent said anything, I was asked by the person not to say anything but tbh I think its in the interest of fans sticking together that all the information is out there.
So this is what I know and it comes from someone close to Chris himself.
Chris and Lee had an arguement and then Chris picked up an injury non knee related and Bowyer decided to use this as an excuse to not play him and decided instead of telling fans he was injured to just say he decided not to play along with Taylor.
Chris has been in contact with the PFA since then and is trying to work out a statement with them.
He done a goodbye interview with the club, but someone at the club(senior management refused to let it go out).
And that is everything I know, sorry I havent said anything sooner but I was waiting to find out if I would get in trouble releasing this information but the person I asked not gonna name names hasn't got back to me and this is rumbling on and I think needs to be fully known now
Solly deciding not to honour his contract was during the ESI era, when all dirty club laundry was aired in public. If there was a genuine, acceptable, reason for Solly not coming back after lockdown I’m really surprised that it’s not out in the open by now.
Right I have been sat on information for a while its the reason I started on this thread by slagging Solly off and over the past month or so I havent said anything, I was asked by the person not to say anything but tbh I think its in the interest of fans sticking together that all the information is out there.
So this is what I know and it comes from someone close to Chris himself.
Chris and Lee had an arguement and then Chris picked up an injury non knee related and Bowyer decided to use this as an excuse to not play him and decided instead of telling fans he was injured to just say he decided not to play along with Taylor.
Chris has been in contact with the PFA since then and is trying to work out a statement with them.
He done a goodbye interview with the club, but someone at the club(senior management refused to let it go out).
And that is everything I know, sorry I havent said anything sooner but I was waiting to find out if I would get in trouble releasing this information but the person I asked not gonna name names hasn't got back to me and this is rumbling on and I think needs to be fully known now
Can back Paulie up on this as have seen further confirmation (that he's shown me) that what he's been told is pretty spot on!!
Lee Bowyer has gone down in my estimates if that's true - however why didn't Solly just release something himself through SLP or other channels?
It's a difficult one all round unfortunately.
Whilst at first sight it looks a bit shitty tarring Chris with the Taylor / Davis refusing to play brush publicising that he (Solly) was injured, given his record, might have jeopardised any potential move although, that said, suggesting someone won't play doesn't exactly enhance their reputation although it seemingly did Taylor no harm.
I think we can conclude, as many of us have said all along, that it is not as straightforward as Solly 'refusing to play.'
If true my opinion on Bowyer would drop massively. Chris Solly is more Charlton than Bowyer will ever be in my opinion. Absolutely appalling way to be treated even if he’d been at the club a couple of years, let alone a club legend.
Lee Bowyer has gone down in my estimates if that's true - however why didn't Solly just release something himself through SLP or other channels?
It's a difficult one all round unfortunately.
Whilst at first sight it looks a bit shitty tarring Chris with the Taylor / Davis refusing to play brush publicising that he (Solly) was injured, given his record, might have jeopardised any potential move although, that said, suggesting someone won't play doesn't exactly enhance their reputation although it seemingly did Taylor no harm.
I think we can conclude, as many of us have said all along, that it is not as straightforward as Solly 'refusing to play.'
This is kind of where I am now.
At first I was like like WTF why would Bowyer do that, he made me hate a player who had spent his whole career at this club, and then after a while I was like you and started thinking maybe in his head Bowyer thought it was the better option for Solly, rather than clubs thinking he was not only injured but it wasn't even knee related that he just decided not to play for safety reasons.
I dont know why nothing official has still come out, not sure how long the PFA take with these things normally.
Lee Bowyer has gone down in my estimates if that's true - however why didn't Solly just release something himself through SLP or other channels?
It's a difficult one all round unfortunately.
Whilst at first sight it looks a bit shitty tarring Chris with the Taylor / Davis refusing to play brush publicising that he (Solly) was injured, given his record, might have jeopardised any potential move although, that said, suggesting someone won't play doesn't exactly enhance their reputation although it seemingly did Taylor no harm.
I think we can conclude, as many of us have said all along, that it is not as straightforward as Solly 'refusing to play.'
Imo it could have just be covered with a statement saying Solly has a slight injury that will keep him out for a couple of weeks & after that (into July) he is out of contract & didn't want to extend. It's not he was being played much anyway- I dont think he was picked after xmas iirc.
For me it comes back to what I said on the previous page... Bowyer is a very good Manager and even Solly in the past has said that Lee is very honest, the most honest that he's experienced.
Honesty isnt a bad thing but sometimes a bit of tact is required, Bowyer has plenty of time in the game, he will get plenty of things right, just as he'll get plenty of things wrong
Definitely a case of two sides to every story as we've seen here though
I find that scenario really hard to believe, especially as Bowyer himself moaned that he had no cover at RB (and it was never likely that Matthews could play 9 games in a short period)
Especially as Solly was the club captain, so would have an important role in the dressing room, even if not playing
Would Bowyer really freeze Solly out to save one month's wages (for the extension to the end of the season) rather than just not picking him and letting him leave after that?
And why have Solly and the PFA not issued ANY statement yet, 4 months later if what Bowyer said was a complete lie and potentially slanderous?
Surprised JJ hasn't intervened as in the interview he said he was a player conduit where they could talk to him about things they wouldn't necessary talk to Bowyer about.
I'm saddened to hear as people will know that I questioned the reason why Solly was being lumped in with Taylor and highlighted the fact that LB hadn't asked him to play after Christmas so why would he call on a player who hadn't kicked a ball in anger now anyway.
I also stated how dismayed I was that LB so publicly used Bonne as the culprit for losing games. And I've questioned why Phillips has been made to look the bad boy for doing what he is perfectly entitled to do in not signing a new contract and pointed out how he has used Cawley to influence people's perception of Phillips. In both the case of Bonne (he phoned him after the transfer to tell him that he only did it to improve him) and Phillips (after the event emphasising that Phillips did nothing wrong throughout) he justified his reasons for acting the way he did.
LB is clearly good at his job and he now has his team. Let's all hope he is massively successful. That doesn't mean to say that I have to like some of the less than classy ways he has done things.
Solly would be playing now if the Cobblers hadn't stuffed the Grecians back in June.
I heard he'd was happy to commit to 30th June but not for the additional six games. LB then dropped him in it by adding his name to the Taylor and Davis quote without clarification.
Get the feeling LB can be stubborn and not to be crossed.
If it were only for the additional games then I have no problem with Solly’s decision, well within his rights.
For me it comes back to what I said on the previous page... Bowyer is a very good Manager and even Solly in the past has said that Lee is very honest, the most honest that he's experienced.
Honesty isnt a bad thing but sometimes a bit of tact is required, Bowyer has plenty of time in the game, he will get plenty of things right, just as he'll get plenty of things wrong
Definitely a case of two sides to every story as we've seen here though
But how is this honesty though? He hasn't been too honest, it's the opposite
For me it comes back to what I said on the previous page... Bowyer is a very good Manager and even Solly in the past has said that Lee is very honest, the most honest that he's experienced.
Honesty isnt a bad thing but sometimes a bit of tact is required, Bowyer has plenty of time in the game, he will get plenty of things right, just as he'll get plenty of things wrong
Definitely a case of two sides to every story as we've seen here though
But how is this honesty though? He hasn't been too honest, it's the opposite
Im thinking Bowyer and Solly both read CL and have decided for a bit of fun for the next 20 years its best Solly keeps quiet. Then by 2040 this thread hits over 10 million views and the great Solly debate is passed onto another generation.
The presence of the very good Matthews might have influenced everybody's behaviour in this saga. Previous to that Djiksteel might have had an unsettling effect on matters.
Solly would be playing now if the Cobblers hadn't stuffed the Grecians back in June.
I heard he'd was happy to commit to 30th June but not for the additional six games. LB then dropped him in it by adding his name to the Taylor and Davis quote without clarification.
Get the feeling LB can be stubborn and not to be crossed.
Good. Bowyer has stuck with us when he could easily have gone, the players who don't show the same loyalty as that should be criticised.
Edit: just seen Paulie's post. The above comment still stands around other players, but will wait to hear what Solly/The PFA say.
That is all so lame I mean if bowyer was trying to do Solly a favour by covering up an injury surely it would mean they would have discussed things and if not weird , proper fucking weirdos the pair of em . If I was Solly and I hadn’t agreed to it I’d be banging on the Bowyer you’re a twunt drum
Solly would be playing now if the Cobblers hadn't stuffed the Grecians back in June.
I heard he'd was happy to commit to 30th June but not for the additional six games. LB then dropped him in it by adding his name to the Taylor and Davis quote without clarification.
Get the feeling LB can be stubborn and not to be crossed.
Good. Bowyer has stuck with us when he could easily have gone, the players who don't show the same loyalty as that should be criticised.
Edit: just seen Paulie's post. The above comment still stands around other players, but will wait to hear what Solly/The PFA say.
That is all so lame I mean if bowyer was trying to do Solly a favour by covering up an injury surely it would mean they would have discussed things and if not weird , proper fucking weirdos the pair of em . If I was Solly and I hadn’t agreed to it I’d be banging on the Bowyer you’re a twunt drum
But he's not covered up an injury... He's claimed that Solly doesnt want to play
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So this is what I know and it comes from someone close to Chris himself.
Chris and Lee had an arguement and then Chris picked up an injury non knee related and Bowyer decided to use this as an excuse to not play him and decided instead of telling fans he was injured to just say he decided not to play along with Taylor.
Chris has been in contact with the PFA since then and is trying to work out a statement with them.
He done a goodbye interview with the club, but someone at the club(senior management refused to let it go out).
And that is everything I know, sorry I havent said anything sooner but I was waiting to find out if I would get in trouble releasing this information but the person I asked not gonna name names hasn't got back to me and this is rumbling on and I think needs to be fully known now
Whilst at first sight it looks a bit shitty tarring Chris with the Taylor / Davis refusing to play brush publicising that he (Solly) was injured, given his record, might have jeopardised any potential move although, that said, suggesting someone won't play doesn't exactly enhance their reputation although it seemingly did Taylor no harm.
I think we can conclude, as many of us have said all along, that it is not as straightforward as Solly 'refusing to play.'
At first I was like like WTF why would Bowyer do that, he made me hate a player who had spent his whole career at this club, and then after a while I was like you and started thinking maybe in his head Bowyer thought it was the better option for Solly, rather than clubs thinking he was not only injured but it wasn't even knee related that he just decided not to play for safety reasons.
I dont know why nothing official has still come out, not sure how long the PFA take with these things normally.
I'm sure everyone would have been happy then.
Honesty isnt a bad thing but sometimes a bit of tact is required, Bowyer has plenty of time in the game, he will get plenty of things right, just as he'll get plenty of things wrong
Definitely a case of two sides to every story as we've seen here though
Especially as Solly was the club captain, so would have an important role in the dressing room, even if not playing
Would Bowyer really freeze Solly out to save one month's wages (for the extension to the end of the season) rather than just not picking him and letting him leave after that?
And why have Solly and the PFA not issued ANY statement yet, 4 months later if what Bowyer said was a complete lie and potentially slanderous?
Who is the Club's PFA rep? Is it Pearce?
I also stated how dismayed I was that LB so publicly used Bonne as the culprit for losing games. And I've questioned why Phillips has been made to look the bad boy for doing what he is perfectly entitled to do in not signing a new contract and pointed out how he has used Cawley to influence people's perception of Phillips. In both the case of Bonne (he phoned him after the transfer to tell him that he only did it to improve him) and Phillips (after the event emphasising that Phillips did nothing wrong throughout) he justified his reasons for acting the way he did.
LB is clearly good at his job and he now has his team. Let's all hope he is massively successful. That doesn't mean to say that I have to like some of the less than classy ways he has done things.
Then by 2040 this thread hits over 10 million views and the great Solly debate is passed onto another generation.
Previous to that Djiksteel might have had an unsettling effect on matters.
Edit: just seen Paulie's post. The above comment still stands around other players, but will wait to hear what Solly/The PFA say.
I mean if bowyer was trying to do Solly a favour by covering up an injury surely it would mean they would have discussed things and if not weird , proper fucking weirdos the pair of em .
If I was Solly and I hadn’t agreed to it I’d be banging on the Bowyer you’re a twunt drum