See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
Surely it'd be slightly more humane to at least kill the chicken first before eating it.
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.
Agree with you on this. I eat chicken, but try my best to buy those that have had a bit of an innings. However, there are times that KFC just has to be eaten.
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.
Agree with you on this. I eat chicken, but try my best to buy those that have had a bit of an innings. However, there are times that KFC just has to be eaten.
Difficult to get organic chickens to eat (not a veggie), if you can though I assume they have had a bit more idyllic (if short) lifestyle.
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.
I imagine most meat-eaters would rather the animals they ate had good lives and were raised in clean ethical facilities.
But people also want cheap food and can't be bothered to research where their food comes from.
And we have a terrible labelling system that is both onerous and lacking at the same time.
There's a reason why in any supermarket fresh chicken aisle 90% of it will be whole chickens for £4 each and a red tractor slapped on it and hardly any of it dedicated to the £10 birds that, at least according to the label, might have gone outside at some point in their lives.
I imagine most meat-eaters would rather the animals they ate had good lives and were raised in clean ethical facilities.
But people also want cheap food and can't be bothered to research where their food comes from.
And we have a terrible labelling system that is both onerous and lacking at the same time.
There's a reason why in any supermarket fresh chicken aisle 90% of it will be whole chickens for £4 each and a red tractor slapped on it and hardly any of it dedicated to the £10 birds that, at least according to the label, might have gone outside at some point in their lives.
Excellent butchers near me that sells outside reared chickens from its own farm in Sussex. They cost depending on size about £11 - £14. I would dearly love to be able to buy these regularly but when compared to a similar size bird in a supermarket for £5.00 it makes me think I can’t justify it. Some people of course just wouldn’t be able to afford it.
Anyone know how likely you are to get food poisoning if you eat raw chicken? Not sure how much or if just mixed in with the rest of the meal that was cooked ok
If it was completely fresh and a small amount then not likely
Ignore this advice btw, once you get down to bacterial level the amount eaten doesn't really come into it. You only need a forkful to do the damage.
But be aware of psychosomatic symptoms too. If you've eaten something unpleasant your brain is going to be messing with you and can cause a physical reaction that wouldn't occur if you didn't know you'd eaten it. Try not to dwell on it. Honestly, this is a major factor behind complaints about food premises.
Hmm, there's been some weird posts on CL lately. Perhaps this explains it.
I imagine most meat-eaters would rather the animals they ate had good lives and were raised in clean ethical facilities.
But people also want cheap food and can't be bothered to research where their food comes from.
And we have a terrible labelling system that is both onerous and lacking at the same time.
There's a reason why in any supermarket fresh chicken aisle 90% of it will be whole chickens for £4 each and a red tractor slapped on it and hardly any of it dedicated to the £10 birds that, at least according to the label, might have gone outside at some point in their lives.
Excellent butchers near me that sells outside reared chickens from its own farm in Sussex. They cost depending on size about £11 - £14. I would dearly love to be able to buy these regularly but when compared to a similar size bird in a supermarket for £5.00 it makes me think I can’t justify it. Some people of course just wouldn’t be able to afford it.
I do find it a dilemma.
My parents used to get the most wonderful chickens to roast on Sundays. I imagine in today's money they would be between 10 and 15 but it would feed the family on Sunday with plenty left over for the next few days for dinners and sandwiches.
A supermarket chicken is 90% water and shrinks loads in the oven. You're not getting any more meat for your money. The cost savings for the consumer are minimal I think compared to the quality of meat.
And meat should be a treat not an everyday regular staple. If people only ate decent, ethically sourced meat twice a week rather than bargain meat every evening, it would cost the same except you'd have much better meat and be healthier for it, and maybe standards would rise.
I couldn't really see the pic properly on my phone this morning but wow. Yuck. The thought of it, I couldn't open this thread at lunch when I was eating my hummus and falafel wrap.
Bit concerned now, how long was the debriefing? Any update Fiona?
Have made it home with no ill affects. Yet. Most surprisingly. Not sure I am out of the woods yet as it can take up to 3 days. The first thing I checked when I got to the briefing was where the toilets were! When you show police officers a picture and it turns their hardened stomachs, you know it is bad! Thanks for everyone's concern!
I couldn't really see the pic properly on my phone this morning but wow. Yuck. The thought of it, I couldn't open this thread at lunch when I was eating my hummus and falafel wrap.
Bit concerned now, how long was the debriefing? Any update Fiona?
That's very middle class, B.
Although KFC was shut I suppose, so that must have put you in a bit of a pickle...
Have made it home with no ill affects. Yet. Most surprisingly. Not sure I am out of the woods yet as it can take up to 3 days. The first thing I checked when I got to the briefing was where the toilets were! When you show police officers a picture and it turns their hardened stomachs, you know it is bad! Thanks for everyone's concern!
Hope you get substantial financial recompense for this ...
See, that’s why I don’t eat chicken, raw or cooked. It’s fowl.
Totally agree.
Spend some time watching hens that have been rescued from their cages, pale faces and few feathers. They're still curious, beautiful creatures. After a few months their feathers grow back. Each hen is an individual and has their own personality. They can be friendly, trusting of humans and learn to be called by name. Please don't eat them.
I can't see what wrong with doing the above, and then eating them
If you have got to eat chicken then they should at least be allowed to live a good life before they're slaughtered. But they're not. Even chickens that are so-called 'free-range' live in cramped conditons and few get outside. All you need to call them free-range is to have a hatch where they can get outside, it's just that with 5000 in one shed it's pretty difficult for the ones further to the back to ever get there. I've rescued so-called free-range chickens and we had to wear masks to stop the ammonia stench from affecting our lungs. And for chickens their respiratory system is affected at levels before humans can smell it. God this makes me angry and sad in equal measures.
When buying eggs I do try to buy free range & try to do the same when buying a whole chicken. However, I can't say that either taste any different to caged or battery ones. I'm a meat eater & proud of it. Couldn't go veggie or vegan & eat meat virtually every day.
Have made it home with no ill affects. Yet. Most surprisingly. Not sure I am out of the woods yet as it can take up to 3 days. The first thing I checked when I got to the briefing was where the toilets were! When you show police officers a picture and it turns their hardened stomachs, you know it is bad! Thanks for everyone's concern!
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This forum really is going to the
dogsbogsDid the briefing get interrupted by simultaneous dual eruptions?
Is Princess Fiona stuck in the train khazi with no signal or, worse, no loo paper?
The suspense is unbearable.
However, there are times that KFC just has to be eaten.
But people also want cheap food and can't be bothered to research where their food comes from.
And we have a terrible labelling system that is both onerous and lacking at the same time.
There's a reason why in any supermarket fresh chicken aisle 90% of it will be whole chickens for £4 each and a red tractor slapped on it and hardly any of it dedicated to the £10 birds that, at least according to the label, might have gone outside at some point in their lives.
I do find it a dilemma.
A supermarket chicken is 90% water and shrinks loads in the oven. You're not getting any more meat for your money. The cost savings for the consumer are minimal I think compared to the quality of meat.
And meat should be a treat not an everyday regular staple. If people only ate decent, ethically sourced meat twice a week rather than bargain meat every evening, it would cost the same except you'd have much better meat and be healthier for it, and maybe standards would rise.
Bit concerned now, how long was the debriefing? Any update Fiona?
Although KFC was shut I suppose, so that must have put you in a bit of a pickle...
... maybe enough to put in a bid for the club