Of the 22 Members of FIFA's executive committee who took part in 2010's secret vote for Russia and Quatar, 16 have by now been banned from football for corruption, indicted or convicted of corruption by the FBI or other authorities.
I wonder do the Spanish FA actually have genuine grounds for dismissal? Mad as it may sound, but assuming the contract doesn't begin until the world cup has ended what has he actually done wrong? Agreeing to take another job is not grounds for dismissal in any other work place as far as I know?
I mean if I went for an interview for another job and got it I wouldn't get the sack from my current job - even if it was to a business rival and there was a direct conflict of interest they wouldn't be able to just sack me just like that... probably put me on gardening leave or something but certainly not dismissal.
Yet Football Employment is completely different to any normal Employment
When people say "I'd be sacked if I did that poorly in my job" I want to scream because in that situation you wouldnt, instead you'd go through about five different disciplinary routes before that became possible
I imagine this is no different... Managers have been removed from their posts for much lesser reasons in the past. i.e. Chris Powell, wasnt talking to another team, results werent particularly bad but still went just because the owner didnt want him
As much as I love SCP I don’t know how you can say results weren’t that bad...???? We were bottom of the league!!!
I wonder do the Spanish FA actually have genuine grounds for dismissal? Mad as it may sound, but assuming the contract doesn't begin until the world cup has ended what has he actually done wrong? Agreeing to take another job is not grounds for dismissal in any other work place as far as I know?
I mean if I went for an interview for another job and got it I wouldn't get the sack from my current job - even if it was to a business rival and there was a direct conflict of interest they wouldn't be able to just sack me just like that... probably put me on gardening leave or something but certainly not dismissal.
Yet Football Employment is completely different to any normal Employment
When people say "I'd be sacked if I did that poorly in my job" I want to scream because in that situation you wouldnt, instead you'd go through about five different disciplinary routes before that became possible
I imagine this is no different... Managers have been removed from their posts for much lesser reasons in the past. i.e. Chris Powell, wasnt talking to another team, results werent particularly bad but still went just because the owner didnt want him
As much as I love SCP I don’t know how you can say results weren’t that bad...???? We were bottom of the league!!!
Seriously do we have to have this debate again?
We were bottom of the League because we had a shocking pitch and had a good run in the FA Cup - We had about four / five games in hand on everyone else which is why we managed to pull of such a good great escape
Of the 22 Members of FIFA's executive committee who took part in 2010's secret vote for Russia and Quatar, 16 have by now been banned from football for corruption, indicted or convicted of corruption by the FBI or other authorities.
I wonder do the Spanish FA actually have genuine grounds for dismissal? Mad as it may sound, but assuming the contract doesn't begin until the world cup has ended what has he actually done wrong? Agreeing to take another job is not grounds for dismissal in any other work place as far as I know?
I mean if I went for an interview for another job and got it I wouldn't get the sack from my current job - even if it was to a business rival and there was a direct conflict of interest they wouldn't be able to just sack me just like that... probably put me on gardening leave or something but certainly not dismissal.
Yet Football Employment is completely different to any normal Employment
When people say "I'd be sacked if I did that poorly in my job" I want to scream because in that situation you wouldnt, instead you'd go through about five different disciplinary routes before that became possible
I imagine this is no different... Managers have been removed from their posts for much lesser reasons in the past. i.e. Chris Powell, wasnt talking to another team, results werent particularly bad but still went just because the owner didnt want him
As much as I love SCP I don’t know how you can say results weren’t that bad...???? We were bottom of the league!!!
Seriously do we have to have this debate again?
We were bottom of the League because we had a shocking pitch and had a good run in the FA Cup - We had about four / five games in hand on everyone else which is why we managed to pull of such a good great escape
To be fair I think the point was that it was a valid reason to dismiss him (whether we agree or if there were other factors or not - it wasn't out of the blue with us in the top 6 or anything was it)
Sacking on performance (perceived or not) is one thing but sacking somebody for taking a job elsewhere is dodgy ground for me, although I do take your point about football being different rules to other employment.
Gotta love a World Cup meltdown. Used to be able to rely on the Dutch for a screaming hissy fit or the French more recently (or Roy Keane), there's always some camp riven by conflict just before we kick off. But out of all of them I wouldn't have guessed at the Spanish!
Gotta love a World Cup meltdown. Used to be able to rely on the Dutch for a screaming hissy fit or the French more recently (or Roy Keane), there's always some camp riven by conflict just before we kick off. But out of all of them I wouldn't have guessed at the Spanish!
Madness at this late stage.
The weirdest part is if you told me there was a problem in the Spain camp, I'd have bet on it being Catalan/Nationalist rifts between players, not their manager fucking off the FA a day before the World Cup
From Rob Smyth over at The Guardian. I've been thinking about this a lot. I think Argentina are a shout. Their group is very difficult, they're not great at the back, and they looked disjointed throughout much of qualification--but I just can't bet against Sampaoli.
The other shouts on the live blog are Germany and England. I could definitely see it happening to England if they do the England thing where they turn up and forget how to play football. Tunisia aren't that bad. Germany, I think, will be out in the quarter finals, and their group is tough, but I think even if they struggle the teams in their group will beat up on each other enough that they'll be able to go through.
I don't know on this one. Thoughts?
Portugal for me. Happy to be proved wrong but I shall be backing Morocco for the second place in that group
I have them going out to Uruguay in the round of 16 but yes, I could easily see them going out at the group stage.
From Rob Smyth over at The Guardian. I've been thinking about this a lot. I think Argentina are a shout. Their group is very difficult, they're not great at the back, and they looked disjointed throughout much of qualification--but I just can't bet against Sampaoli.
The other shouts on the live blog are Germany and England. I could definitely see it happening to England if they do the England thing where they turn up and forget how to play football. Tunisia aren't that bad. Germany, I think, will be out in the quarter finals, and their group is tough, but I think even if they struggle the teams in their group will beat up on each other enough that they'll be able to go through.
I don't know on this one. Thoughts?
Portugal for me. Happy to be proved wrong but I shall be backing Morocco for the second place in that group
I have them going out to Uruguay in the round of 16 but yes, I could easily see them going out at the group stage.
I actually think the biggest shock will be that Ronaldo and Messi won’t perform very well at this World Cup. I think they are both playing for two poor international teams.
Shows Germany’s dominance and how even if they haven’t been too impressive of late, you can’t ever write them off because when it comes to it, they’ve proved time and time again, they turn up and produce.
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Beyond parody.
We were bottom of the League because we had a shocking pitch and had a good run in the FA Cup - We had about four / five games in hand on everyone else which is why we managed to pull of such a good great escape
Edit: no he's not. It's Hierro.
Sacking on performance (perceived or not) is one thing but sacking somebody for taking a job elsewhere is dodgy ground for me, although I do take your point about football being different rules to other employment.
Madness at this late stage.
Stupid America, I wish I could bet on this kind of stuff.
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Whether his team is good enough to back him up is another question. They managed to win the Euros so you never know.
For me, the two best World Cup songs from recent years. Yes, they're awful Coca Cola manufactured things, but they're catchy.
Spain poor, England dreadful, Belgium underperformed, Wales made the semis and France somehow managed to bottle it.