Patrick writes - I just wanted to take this opportunity to clear up some confusion regards my future at CAFC. He is responding to LB's unilateral comment that he would not be leaving.
Players' and coaches' careers and aspirations have been flushed down the pan under RD's regime, just as fans' interests have.
It's a bit rich to accuse any player of selfishness when this whole disaster stems from one giant poisoned ego. And the worst of it is that genuine people are set at each others' throats by a malevolent owner who knows nothing and cares less.
Well said! If Patrick stays, great. If he feels he has a better future away from the Valley then good luck to him. He is one of my favourite players. Anyone who slags him off for wanting to steer clear of this shockingly badly run football club and its malodorous owner is IMHO a bloody moron!!
I think some people are a little bit unrealistic in their expectations. Put yourself in his position for a bit, in relation to your own careers. If you worked for a company as dysfunctional as Charlton, with management that had lied to you constantly, cashed in on your co-workers and left you to prop the place up, whilst your former co-workers had all gone on to a better, stable job in the same line of business, where you didn't even need to go to an interview before being offered more money over a longer term, with better prospects and out of a poisonous atmosphere - you're telling me you wouldn't jump ship at the earliest opportunity? I'd say that it's a miracle he's still here at all FFS!
Doesn’t this mean he’s more likely to stay for this season? Why would anyone pay money for him when they can get him for a free in less than 12 months
Nope, many clubs will realise Pat's a raving bargain at the trifling "undisclosed" consideration the owner will accept and will snap him up asap, cos y'know he's actually quite good.
Bauer doesn't have to accept a move, even if Roland wants the cash. After all, if you and your family were settled around here, would you go to say Blackburn?
If I was unfortunate to still be working for rolycnutface I'd move to Croydon for an(y) opportunity, Blackburn? I'd walk there if necessary.
Interesting scenario. Bauer and Aribo get sold late on Thursday and we don’t get any replacements. Bowyer, Jacko, Euell and anyone else on the staff with any self respect say “fuck this, we’re off” on Friday. What actually happens next?
If those sales happen I can see Bowyer departing. I don’t see Jackson following him. Think he would tough it out.
If those two go the season ticket will go back
You mean yours has turned up? Do you live in Floyd Road, did somebody walk it round?
So both Marshall and now Bauer could have had disagreements with Bowyer?
Marshall might have been hurt about being dropped late last season, but he’s back battling away like a trouper at the start of this one. He’s a very likeable chap, and I’d be very surprised if he had been holding a grudge about it. He’s been around long enough to know what can happen.
I don't blame any player for wanting to leave our shambles of a club. Still can't work out why Taylor joined?
Location location location. If we’d been competing with any clubs closer to London, I’m sure we’d have lost out.
I’m sure he got a pay rise leaving Wimbledon, but there’s a very real chance we’ll finish below them this season so, career prospects wise, he might actually have been better off staying where he was.
So both Marshall and now Bauer could have had disagreements with Bowyer?
Marshall might have been hurt about being dropped late last season, but he’s back battling away like a trouper at the start of this one. He’s a very likeable chap, and I’d be very surprised if he had been holding a grudge about it. He’s been around long enough to know what can happen.
it's baffling though why Marshall didn't feature in the play off games as in the few previous to that he was exceptional.
If Bauer wants to leave? let him go, while there's a vague chance we could get in a replacement (loanee probably) Things are bad enough at our club, it won't get any better with reluctant players in the team. I want players who care, he obviously doesn't. (yes I know he's pretty good at this level, but he wants out, clearly)
Why do people “PWR” on something like this? It’s like actually declaring that you are ignorant.
This is a forum, which assumes that it’s for debate, surely one of the fundamental principles of a debate is to listen to the arguments of others rather than just spout off any old nonsense that enters your head?
Terribly sorry to upset you. But I had no wish to read through seven pages just to see if someone has previously voiced the opinion that I voiced. It's just that, my opinion. You don't agree? fine, But it's my opinion and you not agreeing doesn't change it. There is no debate.
I don't see it as nonsense to suggest a player, who is clearly angling for a move, should go. He's worth more now than he will be in January. He will leave CAFC, surely even you can see that? So let him leave. He can be replaced (if we're quick)
If Bauer wants to leave? let him go, while there's a vague chance we could get in a replacement (loanee probably) Things are bad enough at our club, it won't get any better with reluctant players in the team. I want players who care, he obviously doesn't. (yes I know he's pretty good at this level, but he wants out, clearly)
Why do people “PWR” on something like this? It’s like actually declaring that you are ignorant.
This is a forum, which assumes that it’s for debate, surely one of the fundamental principles of a debate is to listen to the arguments of others rather than just spout off any old nonsense that enters your head?
Terribly sorry to upset you. But I had no wish to read through seven pages just to see if someone has previously voiced the opinion that I voiced. It's just that, my opinion. You don't agree? fine, But it's my opinion and you not agreeing doesn't change it. There is no debate.
I don't see it as nonsense to suggest a player, who is clearly angling for a move, should go. He's worth more now than he will be in January. He will leave CAFC, surely even you can see that? So let him leave. He can be replaced (if we're quick)
There must be a freebie out there somewhere!! I'm certainly not suggesting we could replace him by buying a quality player. That would be ridiculous, given Duchatelets record so far. Our club is a laughing stock. It will remain that way until Duchatelet goes. That's why Bauer wants out. It's just that, a sad reality.
There must be a freebie out there somewhere!! I'm certainly not suggesting we could replace him by buying a quality player. That would be ridiculous, given Duchatelets record so far. Our club is a laughing stock. It will remain that way until Duchatelet goes. That's why Bauer wants out. It's just that, a sad reality.
I'm starting to think we've even given up on loans. A lot of the youngsters may end up being called upon.
If Bauer wants to leave? let him go, while there's a vague chance we could get in a replacement (loanee probably) Things are bad enough at our club, it won't get any better with reluctant players in the team. I want players who care, he obviously doesn't. (yes I know he's pretty good at this level, but he wants out, clearly)
Why do people “PWR” on something like this? It’s like actually declaring that you are ignorant.
This is a forum, which assumes that it’s for debate, surely one of the fundamental principles of a debate is to listen to the arguments of others rather than just spout off any old nonsense that enters your head?
Terribly sorry to upset you. But I had no wish to read through seven pages just to see if someone has previously voiced the opinion that I voiced. It's just that, my opinion. You don't agree? fine, But it's my opinion and you not agreeing doesn't change it. There is no debate.
I don't see it as nonsense to suggest a player, who is clearly angling for a move, should go. He's worth more now than he will be in January. He will leave CAFC, surely even you can see that? So let him leave. He can be replaced (if we're quick)
If he was just angling for a move do you not think he would have released a statement a month or two ago instead of waiting until the last few days of the transfer window ? The fact that the club announced he wouldn't be leaving & that he had been offered a new contract which it seems is just another lie from the club that never stops, probably helped him decide enough is enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if the BFG ended up at a Bundesliga Two team by the end of the transfer window, shame because he's decent player, and has been shat on by how badly the club has been run.
There must be a freebie out there somewhere!! I'm certainly not suggesting we could replace him by buying a quality player. That would be ridiculous, given Duchatelets record so far. Our club is a laughing stock. It will remain that way until Duchatelet goes. That's why Bauer wants out. It's just that, a sad reality.
I'm starting to think we've even given up on loans. A lot of the youngsters may end up being called upon.
I'm sure it will be loans only. LB alluded to this yesterday with the "we're not signing just anybody so as to have more bodies in, we are playing the (loan) long game"
Tony 'We should be beating teams like Charlton' Mowbray has said Blackburn have moved on from Bauer...that is until RD offers him about in exchange for half a roll of duct tape.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
To suggest that Bauer hasn't been a good signing is just ridiculous. One of our only successful signings during the first few years of RD ownership.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
To suggest that Bauer hasn't been a good signing is just ridiculous. One of our only successful signings during the first few years of RD ownership.
Good scouting by Driesden then? Credit where credits due, no? I’m not saying he’s shit, but he hasn’t exactly covered himself in glory over the last few seasons and is being paid handsomely!
This is about money, on both sides, as it always is.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
To suggest that Bauer hasn't been a good signing is just ridiculous. One of our only successful signings during the first few years of RD ownership.
Championship standard player but prone to the odd howler.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
If Bauer wants to leave? let him go, while there's a vague chance we could get in a replacement (loanee probably) Things are bad enough at our club, it won't get any better with reluctant players in the team. I want players who care, he obviously doesn't. (yes I know he's pretty good at this level, but he wants out, clearly)
Why do people “PWR” on something like this? It’s like actually declaring that you are ignorant.
This is a forum, which assumes that it’s for debate, surely one of the fundamental principles of a debate is to listen to the arguments of others rather than just spout off any old nonsense that enters your head?
Terribly sorry to upset you. But I had no wish to read through seven pages just to see if someone has previously voiced the opinion that I voiced. It's just that, my opinion. You don't agree? fine, But it's my opinion and you not agreeing doesn't change it. There is no debate.
I don't see it as nonsense to suggest a player, who is clearly angling for a move, should go. He's worth more now than he will be in January. He will leave CAFC, surely even you can see that? So let him leave. He can be replaced (if we're quick)
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
Absolute tosh.
So he’s not trying to force through a transfer? Fair enough, if that’s your view mate. Personally I’d like him to stay, but “it is what it is”.
Sorry but the BFG has not been “shat on” or “fucked over” in anyway! He’s just another of the unsuccessful signings from the Roland era and is being paid a shit load of money for fairly average performances. He’s put the statement out to engineer a move, plain and simple.
To suggest that Bauer hasn't been a good signing is just ridiculous. One of our only successful signings during the first few years of RD ownership.
Good scouting by Driesden then? Credit where credits due, no? I’m not saying he’s shit, but he hasn’t exactly covered himself in glory over the last few seasons and is being paid handsomely!
This is about money, on both sides, as it always is.
I think he's a successful signing, not much competition mind, and I believe he cost £1.2M!
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I’m sure he got a pay rise leaving Wimbledon, but there’s a very real chance we’ll finish below them this season so, career prospects wise, he might actually have been better off staying where he was.
It's just that, my opinion. You don't agree? fine, But it's my opinion and you not agreeing doesn't change it. There is no debate.
I don't see it as nonsense to suggest a player, who is clearly angling for a move, should go. He's worth more now than he will be in January.
He will leave CAFC, surely even you can see that? So let him leave. He can be replaced (if we're quick)
Our club is a laughing stock. It will remain that way until Duchatelet goes. That's why Bauer wants out. It's just that, a sad reality.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16403446.we-move-on-mowbray-on-rovers-pursuit-of-patrick-bauer/
This is about money, on both sides, as it always is.