I guess there is a certain affinity towards him because he came through the youth team and naturally we all want youngsters to come through and do well. But anyone thinking he's good enough is a bit blinkered.
If we'd signed him a couple of years ago from another club there's no way he'd be getting the same support. Half this forum (and admittedly seemingly our manager) have written Kirk off after about 6 games.
Personally i think we should try and get him a league 2 loan. A change of scenery, regular football and dropping down a level might be the boost he needs (same as going to Crawley did for Grant). Kind of a wake up call 'shit if i don't perform here, then i could be non-league in a couple of years'.
Genuinely didn't Bowyer try this and no one wanted him? That speaks volumes.
I guess there is a certain affinity towards him because he came through the youth team and naturally we all want youngsters to come through and do well. But anyone thinking he's good enough is a bit blinkered.
If we'd signed him a couple of years ago from another club there's no way he'd be getting the same support. Half this forum (and admittedly seemingly our manager) have written Kirk off after about 6 games.
Personally i think we should try and get him a league 2 loan. A change of scenery, regular football and dropping down a level might be the boost he needs (same as going to Crawley did for Grant). Kind of a wake up call 'shit if i don't perform here, then i could be non-league in a couple of years'.
I'll ask again because no one seemed to know yesterday. Why don't Morgan and Davison (as the most obvious examples) play for our u23s especially when we don't have a gentlemens first team game mid week. It seems a bit bizarre that they end up not playing at all, for anyone.
I guess there is a certain affinity towards him because he came through the youth team and naturally we all want youngsters to come through and do well. But anyone thinking he's good enough is a bit blinkered.
If we'd signed him a couple of years ago from another club there's no way he'd be getting the same support. Half this forum (and admittedly seemingly our manager) have written Kirk off after about 6 games.
Personally i think we should try and get him a league 2 loan. A change of scenery, regular football and dropping down a level might be the boost he needs (same as going to Crawley did for Grant). Kind of a wake up call 'shit if i don't perform here, then i could be non-league in a couple of years'.
That only works if we have someone better ready to sit on the bench. Do we?
I guess there is a certain affinity towards him because he came through the youth team and naturally we all want youngsters to come through and do well. But anyone thinking he's good enough is a bit blinkered.
If we'd signed him a couple of years ago from another club there's no way he'd be getting the same support. Half this forum (and admittedly seemingly our manager) have written Kirk off after about 6 games.
Personally i think we should try and get him a league 2 loan. A change of scenery, regular football and dropping down a level might be the boost he needs (same as going to Crawley did for Grant). Kind of a wake up call 'shit if i don't perform here, then i could be non-league in a couple of years'.
That only works if we have someone better ready to sit on the bench. Do we?
Well JFC should be back soon (i think), plus the returns of Inniss and Lavelle should mean Clare can move back into midfield. I expect a midfielder will be signed this month as well.
Well well.... Hope for him yet. Much better, let's see him play like that for several games in a row please as that's a slice of humble pie I'd happily tuck into.
I'm usually in the bye bye albie camp. Although he didn't stand out as mom, he also wasnt shit. Not really sure what to do with him, play him or bin him?
He scored right at the death but don’t let that paper over how poor he actually was. Missed a one on one, doesn’t tackle , doesn’t really get involved or show for the ball. Not good enough
Put on the post match, seeing as I usually put the boot into him, I try and be fair in my opinions so feel it’s relevant here……..Well, think we just edged it with the 2nd half performance. Genuinely pleased for Albie with his goal and obviously what it meant to him. he with the team improved as the game went on. Looked like the new coach afterwards was saying effectively look what happens when you get in the box!!. Green shoots for him as they say by improvements still to be made. But I don’t want to be negative in any way and piss on his chips tonight. Well done Albie.. credit when it’s due.pleased we can talk about a victory tonight…. However it comes.
He scored right at the death but don’t let that paper over how poor he actually was. Missed a one on one, doesn’t tackle , doesn’t really get involved or show for the ball. Not good enough
Tackles more than lee, lost the ball less than lee, used the ball better than lee, created more than lee, scored more than lee
Put on the post match, seeing as I usually put the boot into him, I try and be fair in my opinions so feel it’s relevant here……..Well, think we just edged it with the 2nd half performance. Genuinely pleased for Albie with his goal and obviously what it meant to him. he with the team improved as the game went on. Looked like the new coach afterwards was saying effectively look what happens when you get in the box!!. Green shoots for him as they say by improvements still to be made. But I don’t want to be negative in any way and piss on his chips tonight. Well done Albie.. credit when it’s due.pleased we can talk about a victory tonight…. However it comes.
Interesting … maybe someone looking at him afresh could help
Certainly had a slow start to the game, left me feeling a little disappointed (once again) after the Cheltenham effort that he showed - Yet around 30mins he decided to join the game with a semi-decent pass to Clare (which won a corner), and then a semi-decent set piece which Inniss maybe could have scored from.
Have to wonder if Jackson spoke to him about HT about improving as came out a different player - Ended up putting in a Washington style performance... Felt the problem today was partly down to the fact that he almost played alongside Dobson, unfortunately he cant play that role, as shown in the opening minutes when he was easily out-muscled, forcing Famewo to give away a dangerous free kick.
Pushed forward into the Lee role though, and he certainly gives Elliott some competition - The way everyone went up to him at the FT whistle, makes me think he's the sort of idiot that reads fan opinions.
Said it after Cheltenham, and I'll say it again... Consistency Albie... Consistency... Build on this!!
Continues to show glimpses of what he can do (He setup his first effort on goal beautifully, and that really deserved to end up in the back of the net) - But he still goes missing at times, which will hold him back.
He scored right at the death but don’t let that paper over how poor he actually was. Missed a one on one, doesn’t tackle , doesn’t really get involved or show for the ball. Not good enough
Tackles more than lee, lost the ball less than lee, used the ball better than lee, created more than lee, scored more than lee
Both not good enough if we want promotion. Squad players at best.
Good on him. Consistency has always been the issue - yes he has been given a run of games, etc. He's playing in a position very well suited to him and needs to keep going.
It’s always been overblown, how bad Albie is/has been. It’s also sometimes been a bit overhyped how good he is/can be. One swallow doesn’t make a summer and all that, but I thought he had a pretty decent game. Struggled a bit in the first 30 mins but the entire team did, excluding CBT. As the team got on top he came to the fore a bit. Worked hard, played some nice passes, got into goalscoring positions, and set pieces were consistent and good.
To me, he’s had a touch of the Karlan Grant’s about him in the last couple of seasons. A young player with lots of potential who looked good initially but was maybe overused at times and given responsibility he wasn’t quite ready for. I don’t think he’s ever hid but he has looked short on confidence at times. Thought a bit of the old Morgan, the one considered good enough to start a playoff semi final 3 years ago, was visible today.
Can he kick on and build on it, who knows, but it was good to see because I hope none of us want to see him fail.
Put on the post match, seeing as I usually put the boot into him, I try and be fair in my opinions so feel it’s relevant here……..Well, think we just edged it with the 2nd half performance. Genuinely pleased for Albie with his goal and obviously what it meant to him. he with the team improved as the game went on. Looked like the new coach afterwards was saying effectively look what happens when you get in the box!!. Green shoots for him as they say by improvements still to be made. But I don’t want to be negative in any way and piss on his chips tonight. Well done Albie.. credit when it’s due.pleased we can talk about a victory tonight…. However it comes.
Interesting … maybe someone looking at him afresh could help
More than possible, scrivener went over to him and was quite animated in what he was saying.I would be more than be happy to be wrong in my appraisal of him. I loved seeing his reaction to scoring as I’d be the same if I was lucky enough to ever have played and scored for Charlton. Hopefully the penny will drop whilst he’s knocking back his energy shake this evening!!!.
Thought he played well today did a great tackle first half, kept involved and took a good goal at the end to kill the game off. First time I thought when the subs were coming on, that he deserved to be spared being hoiked off.
Really pleased for him and i hope it gives him the boost he needs to put a run of performances together. Still not convinced he'll ever do it consistently but it might actually be worth giving him a couple of games in the Lee role, as i really think he needs to be dropped/rested for a game or 2.
Corners and free kicks were spot on. If he had scored his first it would have been one hell of a goal. Took his second chance well. Fair play to him, still not convinced he offers enough but very much hope that goal gives him the confidence to kick on.
He scored right at the death but don’t let that paper over how poor he actually was. Missed a one on one, doesn’t tackle , doesn’t really get involved or show for the ball. Not good enough
Tackles more than lee, lost the ball less than lee, used the ball better than lee, created more than lee, scored more than lee
Both not good enough if we want promotion. Squad players at best.
Agreed. As I said in a previous post, it's time to move Morgan on but he also deserves credit when he does well and today he did.
Put on the post match, seeing as I usually put the boot into him, I try and be fair in my opinions so feel it’s relevant here……..Well, think we just edged it with the 2nd half performance. Genuinely pleased for Albie with his goal and obviously what it meant to him. he with the team improved as the game went on. Looked like the new coach afterwards was saying effectively look what happens when you get in the box!!. Green shoots for him as they say by improvements still to be made. But I don’t want to be negative in any way and piss on his chips tonight. Well done Albie.. credit when it’s due.pleased we can talk about a victory tonight…. However it comes.
Not been Albie’s biggest fan of late but credit when it’s due, he had a good all round game today. If he can bring consistency into his game, have a few more games like to today maybe he does have a future with us. A long way to go though before he convinces me & a lot of us,I suspect, but a good start today. At least a solid 7.
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Do we need better player in central midfield this month? I would say yes. Dobson needs some help.
Have to wonder if Jackson spoke to him about HT about improving as came out a different player - Ended up putting in a Washington style performance... Felt the problem today was partly down to the fact that he almost played alongside Dobson, unfortunately he cant play that role, as shown in the opening minutes when he was easily out-muscled, forcing Famewo to give away a dangerous free kick.
Pushed forward into the Lee role though, and he certainly gives Elliott some competition - The way everyone went up to him at the FT whistle, makes me think he's the sort of idiot that reads fan opinions.
Said it after Cheltenham, and I'll say it again... Consistency Albie... Consistency... Build on this!!
Continues to show glimpses of what he can do (He setup his first effort on goal beautifully, and that really deserved to end up in the back of the net) - But he still goes missing at times, which will hold him back.
Pressed really well today at both ends of the pitch.
Got the goal he deserved having missed the easier chance he created just before.
Good to see Skiverton making a point of speaking to him after the game about that goal.
And what was that weird thing he did at corners?
Somehow he lifted the ball over and passed the first defender at corners. It could catch on.
Squad players at best.
If he had scored his first it would have been one hell of a goal.
Took his second chance well.
Fair play to him, still not convinced he offers enough but very much hope that goal gives him the confidence to kick on.
Great goal - really happy for him.