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Albie Morgan - diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (p63)
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I've missed the previous few games so last night was my chance to see what exactly the Morganaissance was about. Someone please tell me that the previous games were better than last night as if that was the standard for the hype then I don't see that much has changed. Sloppy passing, poor shooting. It wasn't all bad, most of the set pieces are much better than we have seen for a while (low bar in fairness) and he did work hard for the 90 mins. I'm not going to sit here and say he was bad last night just that it was an average performance.
Edit- I'm lying, I saw the pizza trophy game and completely forgot he was playing in that, says a lot.5 -
colthe3rd said:I've missed the previous few games so last night was my chance to see what exactly the Morganaissance was about. Someone please tell me that the previous games were better than last night as if that was the standard for the hype then I don't see that much has changed. Sloppy passing, poor shooting. It wasn't all bad, most of the set pieces are much better than we have seen for a while (low bar in fairness) and he did work hard for the 90 mins. I'm not going to sit here and say he was bad last night just that it was an average performance.
Edit- I'm lying, I saw the pizza trophy game and completely forgot he was playing in that, says a lot.
Think he's recent performances have been looked at as decent, because those around him have been so abysmal3 -
colthe3rd said:I've missed the previous few games so last night was my chance to see what exactly the Morganaissance was about. Someone please tell me that the previous games were better than last night as if that was the standard for the hype then I don't see that much has changed. Sloppy passing, poor shooting. It wasn't all bad, most of the set pieces are much better than we have seen for a while (low bar in fairness) and he did work hard for the 90 mins. I'm not going to sit here and say he was bad last night just that it was an average performance.
Edit- I'm lying, I saw the pizza trophy game and completely forgot he was playing in that, says a lot.2 -
I started the season wanting it to work out for him, was then resigned to letting him go, but now I would happily have him as a squad option for next season, pushing to be a regular starter.4
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Addickhead86 said:I started the season wanting it to work out for him, was then resigned to letting him go, but now I would happily have him as a squad option for next season, pushing to be a regular starter.2
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I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.5 -
killerandflash said:I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.
We have tried 6,8,10 and 2 6s and a 10 (which didn't work and I am still not sure why we played it).
With Clare he was really poor, he wasn't the only one, in the Bolton and Accrington games and hasn't played in midfield since. He has been a revelation at RCB and I don't really see why you would play him anywhere else. But I wonder where Jackson saw him and Morgan in the pecking order before Clare changed position?1 -
Cafc43v3r said:killerandflash said:I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.
We have tried 6,8,10 and 2 6s and a 10 (which didn't work and I am still not sure why we played it).
With Clare he was really poor, he wasn't the only one, in the Bolton and Accrington games and hasn't played in midfield since. He has been a revelation at RCB and I don't really see why you would play him anywhere else. But I wonder where Jackson saw him and Morgan in the pecking order before Clare changed position?1 -
I am not his biggest fan, but his last three performances have been very good and has warranted his place in the starting 11.2
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Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.7 - Sponsored links:
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LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?1 -
colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...8 -
To give credit where it is due Albie has played ok the last few games. I had totally written him off and tbh I still think he is miles away from what we need, yes he can pick a pass if given time but he 100% needs to have space and time if he is under any sort of pressure and being closed down the messages from his brain to his feet seem to take too long to get there0
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We have seen this before from Albie. He will play well for two or three weeks and then will be poor for a month or more.. He has played over 100 times for the club so we know what he is at this point - someone who can pick out a nice pass out wide to a winger but lacks quality/creativity in the final third , slows the possession down and who is highly inconsistent with his defensive commitment. He is fine as a reserve but not someone you want starting on a regular basis.1
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LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...0 -
colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
When you play forward passes more than sideways and backwards passes, you'll see more intercepted or on occasion over hit.6 -
colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
Any other midfielder that we've had and been inconsistent has been at best a couple of years older than Morgan. I have no doubt that part of his continued chances are because professionals are not willing to write off a player because he has a few poor games, in line more often than not with when the whole squad has been shit.0 -
colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
If Albie hadn't come through our academy then we would've jettisoned him from the club a long time ago, and him not taking yet another chance is the reason he shouldn't be near a team with aspirations of promotion. (So I guess he's safe for this shower of mediocrity we currently find ourselves in!)1 -
lacking in some ways, squad player at best for me and it his age that's not a good thing, needs to go out on loan to find his level and gain experience/hone his passing etc0
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He's filled in nicely for a very out of sorts Elliot Lee. Well done Albie and keep up the hard work. Euell is a good calming influence on him.
Not sure we will ever see enough goals from midfield with both Morgan and Gilbey in midfield. Remember when each of them just needed one goal, then they'll push on and score regularly. It hasn't happened which is telling of the finishing and goalscoring instincts.
We do have to be honest and yesterday he had two more rash swipes at goal from promising positions within the box, one with either foot. There is no need to lace it as hard as you can - that's a bit schoolboy. Unfortunately, these are the areas we expected and needed Lee to be more refined, but he has been equally as wild.1 - Sponsored links:
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Played well last night and calmed the midfield down when we needed him too. Never quite understood the early season criticism of Morgan - I honestly think a lot of that was Adkins having no idea how or where to play him.2
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killerandflash said:I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.
At some point recently, Morgan must have done just that.
With the poor results a few works ago, Morgan got his chance and so far held his place.
He knows what to do - work hard in the 1st team and impress in training.
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Oggy Red said:killerandflash said:I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.
At some point recently, Morgan must have done just that.
With the poor results a few works ago, Morgan got his chance and so far held his place.
He knows what to do - work hard in the 1st team and impress in training.1 -
killerandflash said:Oggy Red said:killerandflash said:I'm pleased for Albie. Earlier in the season, Clare and Dobson were unfairly left out by Adkins BUT the same can be said about Jacko completely ignoring Morgan once he took over.
Yes I entirely understand starting every week with Dobson, Gilbey and Lee when we were playing well and winning, but Morgan wasn't even getting minutes from the bench when our form started dropping off.
At some point recently, Morgan must have done just that.
With the poor results a few works ago, Morgan got his chance and so far held his place.
He knows what to do - work hard in the 1st team and impress in training.
If people are doing the biz in the first team or the results are good - then if it ain't broke, no need to fix it.
I like the way he stands by players who've been decent but maybe not at their best for a game or 2. He likes continuity.
Of course, you have to accept the manager's word. Even us!
But if the team needs freshening up, he's going to take the squad player that impresses him in training.
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mendonca said:He's filled in nicely for a very out of sorts Elliot Lee. Well done Albie and keep up the hard work. Euell is a good calming influence on him.
Not sure we will ever see enough goals from midfield with both Morgan and Gilbey in midfield. Remember when each of them just needed one goal, then they'll push on and score regularly. It hasn't happened which is telling of the finishing and goalscoring instincts.
We do have to be honest and yesterday he had two more rash swipes at goal from promising positions within the box, one with either foot. There is no need to lace it as hard as you can - that's a bit schoolboy. Unfortunately, these are the areas we expected and needed Lee to be more refined, but he has been equally as wild.0 -
995632 said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
If Albie hadn't come through our academy then we would've jettisoned him from the club a long time ago, and him not taking yet another chance is the reason he shouldn't be near a team with aspirations of promotion. (So I guess he's safe for this shower of mediocrity we currently find ourselves in!)Morgan is not supported strongly because he’s an academy player- I actually think he’s treated more harshly because of it . He’s supported because there’s clearly a talent there.Incidentally, the comment above about slowing the game down is totally invalid . He always tries to pass the ball quickly and invariably forwards , which can lead to a few going astray. Give me that over the players that look for the safe 5 yard sideways pass any day .4 -
He has done better of late admittedly, but unfortunately not so much that he has to play. For me still not having the effect required consistently over a whole game. If there are better players which it’s fair to say Fraser is expected to be, he should probably be on the bench, which four games ago I don’t think he should have been near. He has improved a little though.0
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wmcf123 said:995632 said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
If Albie hadn't come through our academy then we would've jettisoned him from the club a long time ago, and him not taking yet another chance is the reason he shouldn't be near a team with aspirations of promotion. (So I guess he's safe for this shower of mediocrity we currently find ourselves in!)Morgan is not supported strongly because he’s an academy player- I actually think he’s treated more harshly because of it . He’s supported because there’s clearly a talent there.Incidentally, the comment above about slowing the game down is totally invalid . He always tries to pass the ball quickly and invariably forwards , which can lead to a few going astray. Give me that over the players that look for the safe 5 yard sideways pass any day .8 -
paulfox said:wmcf123 said:995632 said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
If Albie hadn't come through our academy then we would've jettisoned him from the club a long time ago, and him not taking yet another chance is the reason he shouldn't be near a team with aspirations of promotion. (So I guess he's safe for this shower of mediocrity we currently find ourselves in!)Morgan is not supported strongly because he’s an academy player- I actually think he’s treated more harshly because of it . He’s supported because there’s clearly a talent there.Incidentally, the comment above about slowing the game down is totally invalid . He always tries to pass the ball quickly and invariably forwards , which can lead to a few going astray. Give me that over the players that look for the safe 5 yard sideways pass any day .3 -
ForeverAddickted said:paulfox said:wmcf123 said:995632 said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:colthe3rd said:LonelyNorthernAddick said:Thought Morgan was great last night - him and Dobson ran the midfield, making up for Gilbey who had a bit of a mare.
The thing I like about Morgan is he always plays with his head up, looking for a pass which I think is something we missed when we had Lee in his place, who was often dribbling into dead ends only to turn back on himself and play sideways/backwards.
So is the general consensus that Morgan is deserving of a place in the side at the moment because he's not as bad as he has been in the past, he's running around a lot more than he did and he's the only one who can replace Lee who is woefully out of form?
I agree his shooting is pretty poor but as per JJ himself he's working on that and trying to be more dangerous in front of goal.
Surely if we're talking about the team, the fact that Morgan is performing better than Lee (who appears to be his direct competition currently) does mean he deserves his place...
If Albie hadn't come through our academy then we would've jettisoned him from the club a long time ago, and him not taking yet another chance is the reason he shouldn't be near a team with aspirations of promotion. (So I guess he's safe for this shower of mediocrity we currently find ourselves in!)Morgan is not supported strongly because he’s an academy player- I actually think he’s treated more harshly because of it . He’s supported because there’s clearly a talent there.Incidentally, the comment above about slowing the game down is totally invalid . He always tries to pass the ball quickly and invariably forwards , which can lead to a few going astray. Give me that over the players that look for the safe 5 yard sideways pass any day .0