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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    Need to wait and see but not convinced.  

    Loved Dev Patel in David Copperfield so a precedent exists. Can be fascinating to turn a ‘tradition’ on its head.  


  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    edited October 2022
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited October 2022
    A pretentious exercise in how to get as many complicated, convoluted and labyrinthine words in as possible. Never enjoyed a Bond movie, or played with a Corgi DB5 model in his life (his is probably still in its box and steadily appreciating in value).
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,591
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,461
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    I agree that that is what they have done but, imho, it's bollox.
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    I do quite like this as an idea, each bond then could have his own character arc over the duration of that particular actors time in the role - Craig's main theme would've been Spectre, but you can go in a lot of different directions with the character this way, rather than trying to make it fit in with the many different previous films which have been made over a long time frame.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,274
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
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  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    sam3110 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
    This has legs as I do believe the Popemobile also has twin front mounted Gatling guns and an ejector seat…
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    edited October 2022
    sam3110 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
    i understand that, im saying he has to be the same man all the way through as his wife died, he still knows that, he had the db5 etc

    if it was different spys taking up the role these things wouldnt happen as everyone since lasenby wasnt widowed, graig would never have had the db5 to keep hold of....
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    It's not real!  :)
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,848
    Saga Lout said:
    It's not real!  :)
    Rubbish.

    You'll be telling me Father Christmas isn't real next!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,848
    sam3110 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
    i understand that, im saying he has to be the same man all the way through as his wife died, he still knows that, he had the db5 etc

    if it was different spys taking up the role these things wouldnt happen as everyone since lasenby wasnt widowed, graig would never have had the dbs to keep hold of....
    I would imagine the DB5 is just a nod to the past - it's not literal otherwise Bond in the latest film would be about 100 years old!  
  • thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    I can't remember that well but wasn't the Manor house basically "Bond manor" with his parents grave saying Mr and Mrs Bond, the housekeeper who knew his as a kid etc?

    The theory works pretty well otherwise, and explains how Judi Dench got older as M while Craig was younger than Brosnon etc.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Saga Lout said:
    It's not real!  :)
    it is i tell you, IT IS!
  • fadgadget
    fadgadget Posts: 1,392
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?

  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,339
    At least they've finally announced who the next villain will be... 


  • Great documentary on Amazon Prime called The Sound of 007.
    tells the story of the different Bond tunes, themes and performers and composers. Thoroughly enjoying it.
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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    The Bond movies have never really maintained a continuity, at least not consistently. The Craig movies aimed to change that and did to some extent. The plan with Skyfall was for Connery to turn up and reveal that the name ‘Bond’ was inherited by different agents, thus tying the movies together. But he refused and the plan was abandoned (and the role was rewritten for the Albert Finney character). 

    It’s not a multiverse, which has allowed the likes of Sony to make lots more money, more of a reboot each time they change actor. The thing is, by making the Craig movies a continuation the producers have painted themselves into a corner. The next movie has to be very different stylistically. Like a flat out comedy, a reboot with a teenager or a twist like that. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,249
    Sometimes you have to let fiction be fiction 

    The last run of films in my eyes were head, shoulders and torso above any other Bond film as much as they were cool films they gave Mike Myers all the ammo he needed to for the, also excellent, Austin Powers films. 

    I don't care what they do next with the character/vehicle of James Bond, I think it would be a shame to make a series as Bond films are their own cinematic events and a series would dilute that horribly. What I do hope is they make a good film or run of films, the bar has been set tremendously high but if you look at Casino Royale which I thought was the best movie of the Craig films, they had a nice touch of continuity with Judi Dench, clearly took a steer from the Bourne films or any number of Jason Statham films and made an absolute banger with characters that had real depth. 
  • JiMMy 85 said:
    The Bond movies have never really maintained a continuity, at least not consistently. The Craig movies aimed to change that and did to some extent. The plan with Skyfall was for Connery to turn up and reveal that the name ‘Bond’ was inherited by different agents, thus tying the movies together. But he refused and the plan was abandoned (and the role was rewritten for the Albert Finney character). 

    It’s not a multiverse, which has allowed the likes of Sony to make lots more money, more of a reboot each time they change actor. The thing is, by making the Craig movies a continuation the producers have painted themselves into a corner. The next movie has to be very different stylistically. Like a flat out comedy, a reboot with a teenager or a twist like that. 
    @JiMMy 85

    That’s fascinating. Do we know why Connery chose not to play ball ? 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    Maybe he didn’t think Bond was a series of people, and was indeed just one character? 
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
  • JiMMy 85 said:
    He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
    This might be common knowledge but what happened on LoEG?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,955
    edited October 2022
    JiMMy 85 said:
    He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
    This might be common knowledge but what happened on LoEG?
    I didn't know this, but apparently there was a massive storm damaging loads of stuff, and then he fell out badly with the Director:

    https://screenrant.com/sean-connery-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-hated-why/

    Presumably then thought he was too old and too rich for the hassle!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I don't think any of it holds up to scrutiny but that isn't the point of it. It is pure escapism and personally I enjoyed the Craig movies immensely.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    edited October 2022
    IMHO, the character should have been shelved once Connery quit.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    JiMMy 85 said:
    The Bond movies have never really maintained a continuity, at least not consistently. The Craig movies aimed to change that and did to some extent. The plan with Skyfall was for Connery to turn up and reveal that the name ‘Bond’ was inherited by different agents, thus tying the movies together. But he refused and the plan was abandoned (and the role was rewritten for the Albert Finney character). 

    It’s not a multiverse, which has allowed the likes of Sony to make lots more money, more of a reboot each time they change actor. The thing is, by making the Craig movies a continuation the producers have painted themselves into a corner. The next movie has to be very different stylistically. Like a flat out comedy, a reboot with a teenager or a twist like that. 
    @JiMMy 85

    That’s fascinating. Do we know why Connery chose not to play THUNDERball ? 
    Changed that for you