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  • Woketastic!
  • Need to wait and see but not convinced.  

    Loved Dev Patel in David Copperfield so a precedent exists. Can be fascinating to turn a ‘tradition’ on its head.  


  • edited October 2022
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
  • edited October 2022
    A pretentious exercise in how to get as many complicated, convoluted and labyrinthine words in as possible. Never enjoyed a Bond movie, or played with a Corgi DB5 model in his life (his is probably still in its box and steadily appreciating in value).
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    I agree that that is what they have done but, imho, it's bollox.
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    I do quite like this as an idea, each bond then could have his own character arc over the duration of that particular actors time in the role - Craig's main theme would've been Spectre, but you can go in a lot of different directions with the character this way, rather than trying to make it fit in with the many different previous films which have been made over a long time frame.
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  • thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
  • thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
  • edited October 2022
    sam3110 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
    i understand that, im saying he has to be the same man all the way through as his wife died, he still knows that, he had the db5 etc

    if it was different spys taking up the role these things wouldnt happen as everyone since lasenby wasnt widowed, graig would never have had the db5 to keep hold of....
  • It's not real!  :)
  • Saga Lout said:
    It's not real!  :)
    Rubbish.

    You'll be telling me Father Christmas isn't real next!
  • sam3110 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    No, as in there's multiple Bonds but they hold the title one at a time, like how there's been multiple Popes over the years but there's only one Pope at a time. 
    i understand that, im saying he has to be the same man all the way through as his wife died, he still knows that, he had the db5 etc

    if it was different spys taking up the role these things wouldnt happen as everyone since lasenby wasnt widowed, graig would never have had the dbs to keep hold of....
    I would imagine the DB5 is just a nod to the past - it's not literal otherwise Bond in the latest film would be about 100 years old!  
  • thenewbie said:
    Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?
    Wasn't Bond killed in the last film, No Time To Die?
     The Daniel Craig Bond died.

    The Bond franchise is now a kind of multiverse. I think that's What they call them?.
    It can go off in all different directions as each new Bond starts. So if you like,there isn't a single Bond story.
    There is/was a theory that "James Bond" was actually a cover identity so each Bond was actually a different person who all assumed the Bond/007 ID.

    Not entirely sure it holds up to scrutiny but it seems like TPTB might have a similar idea.
    that can be shot down by the fact Daniel Craig had the old DB5 in a lock up in skyfall when he drives M up to scotland.

    if he wasn't the only James Bond he would never of had the car
    I can't remember that well but wasn't the Manor house basically "Bond manor" with his parents grave saying Mr and Mrs Bond, the housekeeper who knew his as a kid etc?

    The theory works pretty well otherwise, and explains how Judi Dench got older as M while Craig was younger than Brosnon etc.
  • Saga Lout said:
    It's not real!  :)
    it is i tell you, IT IS!
  • Enjoyable article to mark Bond at 60, although with slightly irritating typical Guardian elements:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/05/james-bond-at-60-no-time-to-die

    Any more ideas/predictions who the next Bond will be?

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  • The Bond movies have never really maintained a continuity, at least not consistently. The Craig movies aimed to change that and did to some extent. The plan with Skyfall was for Connery to turn up and reveal that the name ‘Bond’ was inherited by different agents, thus tying the movies together. But he refused and the plan was abandoned (and the role was rewritten for the Albert Finney character). 

    It’s not a multiverse, which has allowed the likes of Sony to make lots more money, more of a reboot each time they change actor. The thing is, by making the Craig movies a continuation the producers have painted themselves into a corner. The next movie has to be very different stylistically. Like a flat out comedy, a reboot with a teenager or a twist like that. 
  • Sometimes you have to let fiction be fiction 

    The last run of films in my eyes were head, shoulders and torso above any other Bond film as much as they were cool films they gave Mike Myers all the ammo he needed to for the, also excellent, Austin Powers films. 

    I don't care what they do next with the character/vehicle of James Bond, I think it would be a shame to make a series as Bond films are their own cinematic events and a series would dilute that horribly. What I do hope is they make a good film or run of films, the bar has been set tremendously high but if you look at Casino Royale which I thought was the best movie of the Craig films, they had a nice touch of continuity with Judi Dench, clearly took a steer from the Bourne films or any number of Jason Statham films and made an absolute banger with characters that had real depth. 
  • JiMMy 85 said:
    The Bond movies have never really maintained a continuity, at least not consistently. The Craig movies aimed to change that and did to some extent. The plan with Skyfall was for Connery to turn up and reveal that the name ‘Bond’ was inherited by different agents, thus tying the movies together. But he refused and the plan was abandoned (and the role was rewritten for the Albert Finney character). 

    It’s not a multiverse, which has allowed the likes of Sony to make lots more money, more of a reboot each time they change actor. The thing is, by making the Craig movies a continuation the producers have painted themselves into a corner. The next movie has to be very different stylistically. Like a flat out comedy, a reboot with a teenager or a twist like that. 
    @JiMMy 85

    That’s fascinating. Do we know why Connery chose not to play ball ? 
  • Maybe he didn’t think Bond was a series of people, and was indeed just one character? 
  • He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
  • JiMMy 85 said:
    He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
    This might be common knowledge but what happened on LoEG?
  • edited October 2022
    JiMMy 85 said:
    He quit acting after having a horrendous experience on League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Nobody could convince him to act again. I think he did a voice job for a low budget animation or something but that was it. From what I remember he was
    vaguely open to Skyfall but was 85 and couldn’t physically do what was written so that was that. 
    This might be common knowledge but what happened on LoEG?
    I didn't know this, but apparently there was a massive storm damaging loads of stuff, and then he fell out badly with the Director:

    https://screenrant.com/sean-connery-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-hated-why/

    Presumably then thought he was too old and too rich for the hassle!
  • I don't think any of it holds up to scrutiny but that isn't the point of it. It is pure escapism and personally I enjoyed the Craig movies immensely.
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