How about we sell Grant to Huddersfield, they loan him straight back to us for the rest of the season and we use the funds to by Eaves?
Possibly a short term view and it would never happen with RD in charge but would make us stronger for the rest of this season...
Why would a team struggling against relegation buy a player and immediately loan him back? It wouldn't make sense. And as for Roland spending any money that he receives for players.....it just ain't gonna happen.
The point made about selling him within two weeks wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Of course no one would do that, it was more to make a point regarding the addition of an eight figure asset to your playing staff for free.
I firmly believe that there would be at least 20 Championship clubs interested. Add to that, five to eight Premier League clubs who would take him on a free transfer with a view to loaning him out to the Championship for a season.
On top of that, a further 10+ from abroad if you look at Bordeaux coming in for Maja at Sunderland and then there’s German clubs wanting as many young English talents as they can possibly get.
What do you mean by interested? I’m sure all Championship clubs will be aware of the top goal scorers in League 1, but I can’t believe almost all of them will target Grant as a signing.
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach...........if only!
Probably no other Premier clubs at present, possibly a couple promotion clubs in the summer Maybe half the champ (would be generous) Couple abroad possibly
But not sure how you are getting 50, max 15-20 and thats being optimistic.
Hopefully Grant is going to wait until the summer regardless , we can see what league we are in and he can have probably more choice if he does want to leave.
How about we sell Grant to Huddersfield, they loan him straight back to us for the rest of the season and we use the funds to by Eaves?
Possibly a short term view and it would never happen with RD in charge but would make us stronger for the rest of this season...
Why would a team struggling against relegation buy a player and immediately loan him back? It wouldn't make sense. And as for Roland spending any money that he receives for players.....it just ain't gonna happen.
Of course it makes sense. For instance, if you owned Huddersfield owner you would be incredibly stupid not to be considering relegation and you would be planning for life in the championship and plotting a swift return to the Premiership.
You would know which players you have that will be off to other Prem clubs as they picked over your bones, and targeting players that could do a job for you next season.
Grant is a snip at £2mil, and if by agreeing a loan back you can grab a bargain, why wouldn’t you?
If we could sign Tom Eaves for £150k now, but only if we loan him back to the Gills, would you?
How about we sell Grant to Huddersfield, they loan him straight back to us for the rest of the season and we use the funds to by Eaves?
Possibly a short term view and it would never happen with RD in charge but would make us stronger for the rest of this season...
Why would a team struggling against relegation buy a player and immediately loan him back? It wouldn't make sense. And as for Roland spending any money that he receives for players.....it just ain't gonna happen.
Of course it makes sense. For instance, if you owned Huddersfield owner you would be incredibly stupid not to be considering relegation and you would be planning for life in the championship and plotting a swift return to the Premiership.
You would know which players you have that will be off to other Prem clubs as they picked over your bones, and targeting players that could do a job for you next season.
Grant is a snip at £2mil, and if by agreeing a loan back you can grab a bargain, why wouldn’t you?
If we could sign Tom Eaves for £150k now, but only if we loan him back to the Gills, would you?
Think Gillingham owner would try and get more than £150 thousand or his agent would
Seeing as we only have one more loan space available and also seeing as we know Bowyer & Gallen are somewhat creative in the transfer market, to say the least, i'm wondering if they're considering the following option to be able to get a spare loan slot.
There's no way we'd send Cullen, Bielik or Purrington back as they're too important but we have a loan keeper warming the bench at the moment.
I've no doubt that PNE aren't too impressed and neither will Maxwell be but Dillon has found the form to deservedly keep him at number 1 for the foreseeable future. There's no doubt he's played a big part in the games since he's been back in the team and there's no way he deserves dropping so that means we have a problem.
If Bowyer & Gallen could find a way of signing a keeper on a 6 month contract (similar to the deal with Williams) and Maxwell could find a new club that would play him then it means we could then take Karlan back on loan in addition to another striker that we so badly need.
I assume being on the bench for a club doesn't mean he's played for two clubs already this season???
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach.
Not a justification, but I would say that a partial reason for this situation is also the protracted takeover. With the Aussie takeover imminent, it would make no sense to give out too many long contracts, which the new owners might not want
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach.
Not a justification, but I would say that a partial reason for this situation is also the protracted takeover. With the Aussie takeover imminent, it would make no sense to give out too many long contracts, which the new owners might not want
How imminent though? This is a chicken and egg situation, drop the price find an alternative buyer and get out otherwise you are just running an asset into the ground so cutting off your nose to spite your face. Furthermore if the improved contracts that had been offered then subsequently withdrawn, had been honoured, Grant would have a much bigger price tag on his head and not be so attractive to his suitors.
How about we sell Grant to Huddersfield, they loan him straight back to us for the rest of the season and we use the funds to by Eaves?
Possibly a short term view and it would never happen with RD in charge but would make us stronger for the rest of this season...
Why would a team struggling against relegation buy a player and immediately loan him back? It wouldn't make sense. And as for Roland spending any money that he receives for players.....it just ain't gonna happen.
Of course it makes sense. For instance, if you owned Huddersfield owner you would be incredibly stupid not to be considering relegation and you would be planning for life in the championship and plotting a swift return to the Premiership.
You would know which players you have that will be off to other Prem clubs as they picked over your bones, and targeting players that could do a job for you next season.
Grant is a snip at £2mil, and if by agreeing a loan back you can grab a bargain, why wouldn’t you?
If we could sign Tom Eaves for £150k now, but only if we loan him back to the Gills, would you?
Think Gillingham owner would try and get more than £150 thousand or his agent would
I’m sure they would, but your missing the point. Eaves is out of contract at the end of the season so like Grant, can leave for free at the end of the season. We could miss out on promotion if Grant leaves, and they could get relegated if Eaves leaves.
Getting some money for your club and protecting your squad for the rest of the season is therefore appealing. As is grabbing a bargain! Eaves at £250k would still be good business.
Our problem is that there is not even short term planning, just fire fighting.
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach.
Not a justification, but I would say that a partial reason for this situation is also the protracted takeover. With the Aussie takeover imminent, it would make no sense to give out too many long contracts, which the new owners might not want
How imminent though? This is a chicken and egg situation, drop the price find an alternative buyer and get out otherwise you are just running an asset into the ground so cutting off your nose to spite your face. Furthermore if the improved contracts that had been offered then subsequently withdrawn, had been honoured, Grant would have a much bigger price tag on his head and not be so attractive to his suitors.
Aribo had the contract withdrawn for some strange reason, did the same actually happen to anyone else? Such matters are confidential between the club and player anyway, we don't really know everything that's happened
Seeing as we only have one more loan space available and also seeing as we know Bowyer & Gallen are somewhat creative in the transfer market, to say the least, i'm wondering if they're considering the following option to be able to get a spare loan slot.
There's no way we'd send Cullen, Bielik or Purrington back as they're too important but we have a loan keeper warming the bench at the moment.
I've no doubt that PNE aren't too impressed and neither will Maxwell be but Dillon has found the form to deservedly keep him at number 1 for the foreseeable future. There's no doubt he's played a big part in the games since he's been back in the team and there's no way he deserves dropping so that means we have a problem.
If Bowyer & Gallen could find a way of signing a keeper on a 6 month contract (similar to the deal with Williams) and Maxwell could find a new club that would play him then it means we could then take Karlan back on loan in addition to another striker that we so badly need.
I assume being on the bench for a club doesn't mean he's played for two clubs already this season???
But why would any club who bought KAG loan him back to us? Huddersfield would want to integrate him into their club and have him settled for next season. Any championship club (WBA, Brentford, etc) would probably have him in their matchday squad. He's out of contract on July 1st, so why pay big bucks now and not use him when you could get him for nought come the summer? Doesn't make sense, and will therefore not happen.
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach.
Not a justification, but I would say that a partial reason for this situation is also the protracted takeover. With the Aussie takeover imminent, it would make no sense to give out too many long contracts, which the new owners might not want
How imminent though? This is a chicken and egg situation, drop the price find an alternative buyer and get out otherwise you are just running an asset into the ground so cutting off your nose to spite your face. Furthermore if the improved contracts that had been offered then subsequently withdrawn, had been honoured, Grant would have a much bigger price tag on his head and not be so attractive to his suitors.
Aribo had the contract withdrawn for some strange reason, did the same actually happen to anyone else? Such matters are confidential between the club and player anyway, we don't really know everything that's happened
Mo Eisa was playing for Corinthians in Fawkham about 4/5 years ago, the club owned by the Billings family, he was very raw, Greenwich Borough then signed him before his move to Cheltenham
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Ah, that's because we have no CEO or CFO like before they abandoned ship........Oh hang on a minute scrap that. To be honest it's a wonder we haven't had a major crisis over contracts like the one looming up in the summer already. As soon as the absentee owner's experiment failed we became an inconvenience in his 'busy' schedule and many of the key requirements of running a business were abandonned in favour of a destructive short term here today, gone tomorrow approach.
Not a justification, but I would say that a partial reason for this situation is also the protracted takeover. With the Aussie takeover imminent, it would make no sense to give out too many long contracts, which the new owners might not want
How imminent though? This is a chicken and egg situation, drop the price find an alternative buyer and get out otherwise you are just running an asset into the ground so cutting off your nose to spite your face. Furthermore if the improved contracts that had been offered then subsequently withdrawn, had been honoured, Grant would have a much bigger price tag on his head and not be so attractive to his suitors.
Aribo had the contract withdrawn for some strange reason, did the same actually happen to anyone else? Such matters are confidential between the club and player anyway, we don't really know everything that's happened
Yes and that 'strange reason' IMO was the the old scrote counting his Euros with his blinkers on the same as failing to tie these players down 12 months ago. Sorry I don't accept any mitigating circumstances for the situation we will find ourselves in come the summer in the event of no change of ownership.
It seems most of our contracts in recent years have been for 2 years, is that the norm for league one? I know in the past we have signed too many on big money long term contracts. But with short 2 year deals, you need to start negotiating a new deal as soon as the old one is signed.
It seems most of our contracts in recent years have been for 2 years, is that the norm for league one? I know in the past we have signed too many on big money long term contracts. But with short 2 year deals, you need to start negotiating a new deal as soon as the old one is signed.
Makes you think that way because we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous with Daisy signing 29 year old 3rd division, or whatever, Portugese playerts on £10k a week, four year contrcats, to offering a pittance or sweet FA aaarrargh!
It seems most of our contracts in recent years have been for 2 years, is that the norm for league one? I know in the past we have signed too many on big money long term contracts. But with short 2 year deals, you need to start negotiating a new deal as soon as the old one is signed.
Perhaps a good job we didn't do that with Billy Clarke?
It seems most of our contracts in recent years have been for 2 years, is that the norm for league one? I know in the past we have signed too many on big money long term contracts. But with short 2 year deals, you need to start negotiating a new deal as soon as the old one is signed.
Perhaps a good job we didn't do that with Billy Clarke?
Would have been sensible to get Fosu, Aribo etc signed up after showing enough promise last season though. Or Grant after his good loan spell at Crawley. Older players like Clarke aren't going to increase in value, or likely to be an important first team player in 3/4 years time.
@reluctantnicko 8m8 minutes ago More HUDDERSFIELD. Currently biggest bidder for Karlan Grant. 1.5. Others like BRENTFORD yet to match. Too rich for MILLWALL.
The point made about selling him within two weeks wasn’t meant to be taken literally. Of course no one would do that, it was more to make a point regarding the addition of an eight figure asset to your playing staff for free.
I firmly believe that there would be at least 20 Championship clubs interested. Add to that, five to eight Premier League clubs who would take him on a free transfer with a view to loaning him out to the Championship for a season.
On top of that, a further 10+ from abroad if you look at Bordeaux coming in for Maja at Sunderland and then there’s German clubs wanting as many young English talents as they can possibly get.
What do you mean by interested? I’m sure all Championship clubs will be aware of the top goal scorers in League 1, but I can’t believe almost all of them will target Grant as a signing.
On a free transfer they absolutely would. Just today we hear that Millwall won’t pay a fee but of course they would take Karlan for free. I believe this would be the case with most Championship clubs and others.
Nonetheless it’s getting away from the main point and clearly no one sees it the same way I do! Whether we get £2m for him this window or nothing in the summer, it’s an absolute disgrace.
@reluctantnicko 8m8 minutes ago More HUDDERSFIELD. Currently biggest bidder for Karlan Grant. 1.5. Others like BRENTFORD yet to match. Too rich for MILLWALL.
Dunno how much I am willing to believe him, he tweets so many rumours in the hope he gets something right, also didnt he tweet last week we were in for someone, then Bowyer said we had no interest and he went on loan to someone else
If there is a £2m+ offer for Grant then RD will sell given that we'll lose him for nothing in the summer. There is no long term planning and we seem unable to manage contracts.
Overpriced, perhaps?
Gillingham want maximum value for a Third Division player - maybe clubs won't meet their valuation?
Still a week remaining of the transfer window, so plenty of time for a Championship club to panic buy.
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He doesn't seem to have been linked with anyone recently.
Probably no other Premier clubs at present, possibly a couple promotion clubs in the summer
Maybe half the champ (would be generous)
Couple abroad possibly
But not sure how you are getting 50, max 15-20 and thats being optimistic.
Hopefully Grant is going to wait until the summer regardless , we can see what league we are in and he can have probably more choice if he does want to leave.
You would know which players you have that will be off to other Prem clubs as they picked over your bones, and targeting players that could do a job for you next season.
Grant is a snip at £2mil, and if by agreeing a loan back you can grab a bargain, why wouldn’t you?
If we could sign Tom Eaves for £150k now, but only if we loan him back to the Gills, would you?
There's no way we'd send Cullen, Bielik or Purrington back as they're too important but we have a loan keeper warming the bench at the moment.
I've no doubt that PNE aren't too impressed and neither will Maxwell be but Dillon has found the form to deservedly keep him at number 1 for the foreseeable future. There's no doubt he's played a big part in the games since he's been back in the team and there's no way he deserves dropping so that means we have a problem.
If Bowyer & Gallen could find a way of signing a keeper on a 6 month contract (similar to the deal with Williams) and Maxwell could find a new club that would play him then it means we could then take Karlan back on loan in addition to another striker that we so badly need.
I assume being on the bench for a club doesn't mean he's played for two clubs already this season???
Getting some money for your club and protecting your squad for the rest of the season is therefore appealing. As is grabbing a bargain! Eaves at £250k would still be good business.
Our problem is that there is not even short term planning, just fire fighting.
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HUDDERSFIELD. Currently biggest bidder for Karlan Grant. 1.5. Others like BRENTFORD yet to match. Too rich for MILLWALL.
Nonetheless it’s getting away from the main point and clearly no one sees it the same way I do! Whether we get £2m for him this window or nothing in the summer, it’s an absolute disgrace.
Gillingham want maximum value for a Third Division player - maybe clubs won't meet their valuation?
Still a week remaining of the transfer window, so plenty of time for a Championship club to panic buy.