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  • She speaks quite posh which is enough for me. 
  • Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

  • Andy Murray went to Spain to learn to play at the top level.
  • Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
  • Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.
  • thenewbie said:
    Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.

    Both of his parents are British - that helps when determining nationality.
  • T'was ever thus.

    Our own John Hewie RIP played for Scotland courtesy of his grandfather but to the best of my knowledge never actually lived there.
  • Some will probably claim Prince Philip ain't English 
  • bobmunro said:
    thenewbie said:
    Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.

    Both of his parents are British - that helps when determining nationality.
    What about Mo Farah?
  • bobmunro said:
    thenewbie said:
    Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.

    Both of his parents are British - that helps when determining nationality.
    What about Mo Farah?
    Mo Farah has British Citizenship same as Konta

    Citizenship isnt the same as Nationality
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  • bobmunro said:
    thenewbie said:
    Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.

    Both of his parents are British - that helps when determining nationality.
    What about Mo Farah?
    Mo Farah has British Citizenship same as Konta

    Citizenship isnt the same as Nationality
    isn't it a pointless argument?  if you are a British national and have a passport why should anything else matter?

    That's why I don't agree on all the non Irish football Players who played for Ireland.  John Aldridge was considered a foreigner playing for Liverpool in Europe even though he's a scouser !
  • Konta proving she is British at heart right now.
  • Konta proving she is British at heart right now.
    Bottling it big time. 

    Please please prove me wrong 
  • Did the same in the French semi final. Needs to cut out the unforced errors.
  • Forehand is woeful. 
  • 4-1 up in the first set to now be a set and a break down is a very English collapse, can't see her turning it around from here.
  • Dear oh dear
  • At 40 40 Konta double faults and then misses a simple smash. 
    Total meltdown. 
  • edited July 2019
    It’s my fault. I tuned in at 3-0 in the first set - apologies!

    Since then she’s won four games and Strycova’s won 12...
  • Don't think so, @Callumcafc. She has shown before she lacks bottle.
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  • Quite possibly the worse set she could have played concidering what was at stake 
  • Strycova is third seed in the doubles draw. Not sure what court she’s scheduled to play later
  • Konta was awful.
  • Utter bottle job I’m afraid. 
  • Utter bottle job I’m afraid. 
    She's certainly not Scottish! Come on SerAndy!!
  • Serena showing Andy how it's done here.
  • Utter bottle job I’m afraid. 
    She's certainly not Scottish! Come on SerAndy!!
    She’s Australian. Don’t normally associate them with bottling. Oh well. 
  • Utter bottle job I’m afraid. 
    She's certainly not Scottish! Come on SerAndy!!
    She’s Australian. Don’t normally associate them with bottling. Oh well. 
    Hoping their cricketers catch it ahead of the Ashes.
  • Utter bottle job I’m afraid. 
    Superb interview with her when she completely loses it - seems unable to accept that she keeps bottling it. She's capable of playing very well but her temperament keeps letting her down.

    Seems a very prickly character.

  • bobmunro said:
    thenewbie said:
    Out of interest what does everyone make of Johanna Konta's "nationality". Didnt really bother me at the time but recently googling her I just think it's weird.

    Born in Australia to Hungarian parents. Lived (and first taught/coached as a tennis player) in Oz until age 14. Moved to Eastbourne (?!) with parents & still played under the Australian flag. Aged 21 became a British citizen ( when her mum & dad did) & now plays under our flag.

    One reason she gave for playing under the British flag was because the UK was where she was "brought up". I would have thought her formative years & where she learnt to play the sport was where she was "brought up".......not just a place her parent decided to live. 

    Nothing against her but just not sure I can really call her "one of our own"
    Not a complete Brit, but more of a Brit than the likes of Rusedski (or Cameron Norrie, Chris Froome or various cricketers)

    I was really glad that when we finally got a men's champion, it was someone who was genuinely British, someone who learned to play in this country. To me it made the achievement sweeter
    More of a Brit than Norrie and Froome?

    Both were born to British parents (Froome's Father played Hockey at U19 level for England) 

    I'd class them as more British than Konta as they've got lineage rather than application
    He might have lineage, but Froome has never actually lived in this country. Grew up in Kenya and S Africa and now lives in Monaco

    Dont really care where people live to be honest

    As a Cyclist its a bit like being an F1 driver where they're rarely home anyway (Apart from Froome in his current condition)
    Froome has never actually lived here at all though IIRC. Which makes the citizenship thing a bit iffy.

    Both of his parents are British - that helps when determining nationality.
    What about Mo Farah?
    Mo Farah has British Citizenship same as Konta

    Citizenship isnt the same as Nationality
    isn't it a pointless argument?  if you are a British national and have a passport why should anything else matter?

    That's why I don't agree on all the non Irish football Players who played for Ireland.  John Aldridge was considered a foreigner playing for Liverpool in Europe even though he's a scouser !
    Didn't Jack Charlton try to convince Mark O'vanBasten that he had Irish heritage?
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