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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    Another Broard 8/15 would be nice about now.
    We'd still lose :-(
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,040
    Had to laugh when a BBC correspondent said Denly isn't a test batsmen and is the top scorer...shows what he knows.
    One doesn't disprove the other, though. Last week for my club, I was joint top scorer in the innings (with 14 lol) batting at 10 and needing a runner because I'd damaged my back. I'm usually a number 10, but it just so happened that we batted terribly.

    Denly isn't really good enough to play test match cricket, I don't think, and he's certainly not a long term answer. Scoring 12 in a total of 60-odd doesn't mean he's the most suited to test cricket.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,953
    edited August 2019
    I’m hoping to see the Sky team utterly rip in to Root assuming they interview him after today’s play. Not ripping into him personally but in terms of the overall team performance and his response as captain. He will be humiliated and won’t be able to defend them 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,344
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    Had to laugh when a BBC correspondent said Denly isn't a test batsmen and is the top scorer...shows what he knows.
    I may be a little bit biased here but in this series Denly has hardly been helped by his fellow batsmen; he's regularly coming to the wicket with England 2 down for not a lot and so has to try and steady the innings.

    He may not have scored many runs (97 @ 19.40) but he's faced 219 deliveries which is behind only the two centurions, Burns (552) and Stokes (324), and Woakes (220).

    Roy has only faced 111 balls in his five innings with an average of 9.80 - not exactly setting a sound base for the team.

    The skipper has scored only two runs more than Denly and faced 20 deliveries fewer, as well as having two blobs to his name - leading by example ...
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,882
    This is a master plan to avoid batting last on a tricky day 5 wicket.

    Win toss, bowl, bat nicely in benign day 3 conditions.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,953
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
    Yes, we can.

    We won't, but it's a possibility.

    OK, it's slightly less probable than a meteor shower hitting the ground, turning out of the footholes, and taking out off stump, but it's a possibility nonetheless.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    edited August 2019
    Is it just me or this entire series a bit odd?  Looks like two teams of absolute duffers setting out to prove that Test Cricket is dying on its arse. 
    That all batsman take risks now in test cricket and have iffy techniques, which are unsuited to the five day discipline.
    ( Well 3 and a half days !)

    The Bowlers are better than the batters in the most cases so far except for Smith all the time and Stokes and Burns on the one occasion. Smith stand in isn't too shabby in 2 innings.

    I thought that effort from Broad was hitting leg stump. Had to try for LBW.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,344
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
    Yes I do think we can win it. But I don't think we will. 

    A draw keeps the Ashes alive. Giving up on day two of the third test, with the score at 1-0 is a bit defeatist, in my view. 

    Don't forget we've come back from much, much worse. On this ground. 

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  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,967
    Aussies can declare at 150....
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    I see that Haseeb Hameed has been released by Lancashire. From having such a promising start to a Test career with an average of 43 to possibly the end of a cricketing career in the space of a few years - and so sad that this is all by the age of 22.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
    Yes I do think we can win it. But I don't think we will. 

    A draw keeps the Ashes alive. Giving up on day two of the third test, with the score at 1-0 is a bit defeatist, in my view. 

    Don't forget we've come back from much, much worse. On this ground. 
    We had Test players back then and one-day cricket wasn't the be-all-and-end-all.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,874
    I was concerned that I would miss a great test match when going to the Valley tomorrow. Now I don't have to worry as it will be more or less over. I expect a declaration of about about 500 lead at team time tomorrow. 
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,874
    Who needs Smith?
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,953
    edited August 2019
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
    Yes I do think we can win it. But I don't think we will. 

    A draw keeps the Ashes alive. Giving up on day two of the third test, with the score at 1-0 is a bit defeatist, in my view. 

    Don't forget we've come back from much, much worse. On this ground. 
    The match won’t be a draw - we are on day 2 so that’s one result we can rule out.

    They are now effectively approaching 150-1.

    We can’t bat at test level.

    The ashes are gone. Time to rebuild
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,967
    Rudders22 said:
    Who needs Smith?
    Us?
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    1StevieG said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Who needs Smith?
    Us?
    What's Robin up to these days?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    Imagine what would have happened to us had we not had "English type conditions" to help us!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    Harris b Leach 19

    36-2

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    Told you 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    Leach comes on to bowl ...

    ... and takes a wicket with his first delivery in the match.

    Easy!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,921
    So much for the dukes ball giving us home advantage ...
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,874
    1StevieG said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Who needs Smith?
    Us?
    Oddily enough doesn't his grandmother come from this country. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    Plan B worked.

  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,874
    We finally bowl Leach (instead of Stokes) and he gets a wicket !! 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    Plan B worked.

    Someone else taking over the captaincy?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    I was just going to say let Leach bowl all day because I don't want to see Archer and Broad flogged to death after their first innings efforts.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,816
    Compare and contrast: Charlton shipping eleven goals at Hull and Watford; England collapsing to 67 all out at Headingley.

    Actually, “collapse” is too kind to them. It implies they got going to begin with. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,344
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    The Ashes have gone.

    We need to use the final tests to start a rebuild. Use proper test players and not one day smashers.

    honestly you may as well put Ballance in. He may be a snail but at least he lasts more than 5 balls
    That's the spirit! 
    So you think we can win this match?
    Yes I do think we can win it. But I don't think we will. 

    A draw keeps the Ashes alive. Giving up on day two of the third test, with the score at 1-0 is a bit defeatist, in my view. 

    Don't forget we've come back from much, much worse. On this ground. 
    The match won’t be a draw - we are on day 2 so that’s one result we can rule out.

    They are now effectively approaching 150-1.

    We can’t bat at test level.

    The ashes are gone. Time to rebuild
    That's the spirit!