Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open.
The really strange thing about Roy's dismissals are the number of times he seems to react, after he has been bowled, as if the ball in question was one of the greatest bowled of all time!
Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open.
Roy will never be a test match batsman I agree. He is a brilliant one day batsman. But please don't kid yourself that Denly is any better.
Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open.
Roy will never be a test match batsman I agree. He is a brilliant one day batsman. But please don't kid yourself that Denly is any better.
I'm not and have said that Denly probably isn't up to Test level. However, Roy definitely has never been and never will as evidenced by the 79 runs from 7 innings he has scored in this series.
My objection was to moving Denly from a position where he made a meaningful contribution to a fantastic win to facilitate someone whose technique is never going to suddenly improve just because he has moved lower down the order. If he plays so far out in front of him up top he will still do so batting at 11.
I think we need to bat for two sessions tomorrow to save this test. I fear we won't last much longer than lunch and will be batting again before close of play chasing an impossible total. Can't see us batting out the final day especially as the forecast is good.
A shame what looked like a decent day for England became a bad one in the last hour or so.
If we are to save this match it is absolutely imperative we avoid the follow on which is no formality with 98 needed, 5 wickets left, 3 of whom are not great against pace bowling and a new ball in just a few overs.
Others have said they wouldn't enforce the follow on but England as a batting unit have the backbone of a British civil servant negotiating with the EU. The Aussies have a foot firmly on our throat just now and if I was skipper I'd keep it there.
A shame what looked like a decent day for England became a bad one in the last hour or so.
If we are to save this match it is absolutely imperative we avoid the follow on which is no formality with 98 needed, 5 wickets left, 3 of whom are not great against pace bowling and a new ball in just a few overs.
Others have said they wouldn't enforce the follow on but England as a batting unit have the backbone of a British civil servant negotiating with the EU. The Aussies have a foot firmly on our throat just now and if I was skipper I'd keep it there.
The Aussies don't have to worry about their bowlers being too tired for The Oval either, as they have Siddle and Pattinson to bring in if necessary
Roy has been accomodated for because he is one of "the boys"
To shunt Denly up the order after he had just made a score just to keep a friend in the side is fucking piss poor weak management.
Roy failed. Bring another opener in. Well, I say another, Roy never was one in the first place - neither is Denly.
And Root is happy to sacrifice Denly, but when it's his time to bat? Nah, Overton can do it.
I'm clearly speaking from a Kent perspective here, but also as an England fan. Whoever you support - this is clearly absolute bullshit management.
Michael Vaughan knows his cricket and overall I like him as a summariser.
However Joe Root can do no wrong and if he (Root) came into the commentary box and urinated over Andrew Sampson's scorebook (or is it a laptop these days) Vaughan would still find an excuse for him! Same applies to Bairstow to a lesser extent.
He just needs to have nothing in his head except the desire to attack the bowling. If he can bring that (lack of) mentality back to his four-day form he could well get back in the Test side. He'll have a few games to show what he can do and I think he'll tour.
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I think we're about 130 behind.
Is it a lack of concentration on Root's part and are all Smith's batting eccentricities and routines the reasons he stays at the crease?
196-5
He is a brilliant one day batsman.
But please don't kid yourself that Denly is any better.
Got to fight for a draw now though.
My objection was to moving Denly from a position where he made a meaningful contribution to a fantastic win to facilitate someone whose technique is never going to suddenly improve just because he has moved lower down the order. If he plays so far out in front of him up top he will still do so batting at 11.
If we are to save this match it is absolutely imperative we avoid the follow on which is no formality with 98 needed, 5 wickets left, 3 of whom are not great against pace bowling and a new ball in just a few overs.
Others have said they wouldn't enforce the follow on but England as a batting unit have the backbone of a British civil servant negotiating with the EU. The Aussies have a foot firmly on our throat just now and if I was skipper I'd keep it there.
To shunt Denly up the order after he had just made a score just to keep a friend in the side is fucking piss poor weak management.
Roy failed. Bring another opener in. Well, I say another, Roy never was one in the first place - neither is Denly.
And Root is happy to sacrifice Denly, but when it's his time to bat? Nah, Overton can do it.
I'm clearly speaking from a Kent perspective here, but also as an England fan. Whoever you support - this is clearly absolute bullshit management.
However Joe Root can do no wrong and if he (Root) came into the commentary box and urinated over Andrew Sampson's scorebook (or is it a laptop these days) Vaughan would still find an excuse for him! Same applies to Bairstow to a lesser extent.