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  • Disgusting. Going all the way to NZ Harassing his family. Taking photos of dead children's graves. Scum. 
  • Wade really is a prize tosser!
    Hard to see what he was doing/saying and looked like umpire told root off and signalled up as if he’d got a warning? Nothing mentioned on TMS. Was it for anything? 
    Both umpires spoke to him and it's not for this particular instance that I say it. If value of a player is put on the difference between how much you have to say and how much you actually produce, Wade would be at the very bottom of the pile.
    I didn't like him before. I like him even less now:


    He was described as “embarrassing” by Kepler Wessels after his relentless drone during the 2016 series in South Africa. His reputation is, at best, as a prickly, unpleasant competitor. At worst, it is as was described by one ex-Australian player to The Times last night: “He is an irritating little shit, he is always going at it but at least he’s our irritating little . . .”



    On the irritating little shit theme, I was at Newlands, prob 2008ish, watching England play SA, when all i could hear was this screeching incessant voice coming from fine leg - it was Makhaya Ntini just kept going on, and on, and on, and on - couldnt really understand what he was saying, but it was really irritating bollox- even for me.
    I had the privilege of having a quick 5 min chat with JP Duminy after the days play, and asked him about it, and he told me it was done deliberately to try to irritate the batter and put him off.
  • Heard Paul Collingwood is in the frame for next England coach. Would assume he is more likely if they are going to split the roles or appoint a manager an colly work under him. Can't really see him being in sole charge just yet.
    he would be my choice .. a tough, clever man. He was a very decent player able to hold his own in both test matches and one dayers.
    My hope is that there is not another dynastic appointment in wooden Alec Stewart
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Gonna be pretty rare in the last few years. Most decent players coming though get a cap in one format or another.
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Charles Kortright to open the bowling.  
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Gonna be pretty rare in the last few years. Most decent players coming though get a cap in one format or another.
    Some Kentish names that come to mind are Neil Taylor, Kevin Jarvis and Graham Johnson.
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Did Boycott ever play for England? Can't remember him ever mentioning it. 
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 
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  • Tom Maynard is one who undoubtedly would have. I'm sure he would be a fixture in our white ball sides in the last few years and would likely have had a go in test matches.

    Was in the same England lions squad as Root, Stokes, Roy etc.
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    I raise you players who were made captain but shouldn't have been. Its a long list. 
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!


  • To be fair he probably deserved his call up at the time, but yeah, definitely up there as worst performance though.
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!

    Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!




    I'm surprised he was dropped given the leeway given to a few recent 'under achievers' ((:>)
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!


    He was a tidy ODI player though wasn't he? He came in during a transitional period for english cricket, with duncan fletcher just arriving on the scene. 
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!


    He was a tidy ODI player though wasn't he? He came in during a transitional period for english cricket, with duncan fletcher just arriving on the scene. 
    Playing for Scotland he outscored all the England players in the 1999 World Cup. Bizarrely he was then picked for the England Test side but never an ODI for them and played, either side of his Test for England, 50 ODIs and T20s in total for Scotland.
  • Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!

    Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Now if we were to start a thread of all the players who did win a cap but shouldn't of.
    Well it would be one heck of a list. 

    With Darren Pattinson near the top of it!
    I'll see your Darren Pattinson and raise it with a friend of mine, Gavin Hamilton.

    In his only Test he was caught by Pollock in the slips off Allan Donald in both innings for a pair (faced 9 balls in total), returned figures of 14-1-63-0 and didn't take a catch or run anyone out.

    Unfortunately for the lad, that will take some beating!




    I'm surprised he was dropped given the leeway given to a few recent 'under achievers' ((:>)

    There were a few players going back some years, that only got one test, last game of the series at the Oval, was often where it happened
  • Interesting interview with Bayliss http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1201043/-i-m-a-player--really--i-think-i-understand-how-players-think

    I'll leave those that know more than me about cricket to dissect, but his idea to reduce the number of first class counties to 10 is interesting, though bet it'll never happen.
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  • comment of the week on the playschool broadcast that used to be TMS .. from a lady 'Times' reader .. 

    GLORY OF CRICKET
    Sir, Where have the wonderful, picture-painting radio commentaries of a day at a Test match gone? With descriptions of the bowler’s walk-back, run-in and delivery, the movements and twitches of the batsman awaiting the ball, not to mention what birds were circling the ground and the on and off of players’ jumpers, we could easily have been there. Now, good chaps as the present lot are in the broadcasting box, it’s all waffle waffle waffle, ha ha ha — “in comes Broad, oh and he’s been hit for six!” — and the cricket interrupts the chat again.
  • McBobbin said:
    Interesting interview with Bayliss http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1201043/-i-m-a-player--really--i-think-i-understand-how-players-think

    I'll leave those that know more than me about cricket to dissect, but his idea to reduce the number of first class counties to 10 is interesting, though bet it'll never happen.
    Good interview - thanks for posting.
  • LenGlover said:
    Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Gonna be pretty rare in the last few years. Most decent players coming though get a cap in one format or another.
    Some Kentish names that come to mind are Neil Taylor, Kevin Jarvis and Graham Johnson.
    LenGlover said:
    Mentioned this on the Kent thread, but would be interested to put on here.

    could we get an 11 of all time English players that never played for England?

    id start with adding hildreth and Darren Stevens. Anyone else? 
    Gonna be pretty rare in the last few years. Most decent players coming though get a cap in one format or another.
    Some Kentish names that come to mind are Neil Taylor, Kevin Jarvis and Graham Johnson.

    I'll raise your Jarvis .. Dave Halfyard
  • With the squad for the new zealand tour due to be announced next week, I'd expect an interim head coach to be named for the tour as we don't seem any closer to naming a full time replacement. 

    Pretty poor really.  They've known for months that Bayliss would be leaving 
  • I heard on TalkSport this morning that they had an interview with Dominic Cork lined up this morning and they were going to ask him whether he would like the job.
    Blimey, he might ruffle a few feathers.  He always seems to have a bit of an abrasive personality.
  • JohnBoyUK said:
    I heard on TalkSport this morning that they had an interview with Dominic Cork lined up this morning and they were going to ask him whether he would like the job.
    Blimey, he might ruffle a few feathers.  He always seems to have a bit of an abrasive personality.
    I cant see Cork being a positive influence on the team.When you get to elite sportsmen, the last thing these guys want is an abrasive character like him.Look at Micky Arthur with Oz - the players rejected him.
    Collingwood would be a good choice imo, still connected with the players and has the right experience, and would be respected.
  • The ECB has today confirmed the award of Central Contracts for men's Test and White Ball cricket.

    Selectors have awarded 10 Test contracts and 12 White Ball contracts.

    Sussex fast bowler Jofra Archer receives a Test and a White Ball contract for the first time after his successful debut international season.

    Surrey opening batsman Rory Burns is awarded a Test contract after becoming the leading top order runscorer in the Specsavers Ashes series.

    Kent batsman Joe Denly is awarded a White Ball contract for the first time.

    Worcestershire’s Moeen Ali and Yorkshire’s Adil Rashid both receive White Ball contracts having had contracts across all three formats last year.

    Nottinghamshire’s Alex Hales, Surrey’s Liam Plunkett and Yorkshire’s David Willey miss out on a White Ball contract for the 2019-20 season.

    In addition to Test and White Ball central contracts, selectors can award a limited number of Increment contracts. Burns, Denly and Somerset’s Jack Leach have been awarded Increment contracts in relation to 2018-19 in recognition of their performances for the team through the contract year just finishing.

    Leach and Surrey’s Tom Curran are recipients of Increment contract for the 2019-20 contract year commencing 1 October 2019.

    Test specialists and those playing in all forms of the game will have their salaries paid in full by the ECB. From 1 February 2020, the start of the ECB 2020 Financial Year, those on White Ball contracts will move from receiving a supplement on top of their County salary, to having their salaries paid in full by the ECB as per Test contracted players.

    Under the structure, players in both formats receive a ‘ranking’ based on their performances on the pitch, as well as a number of other factors, including off-field contribution, fielding and fitness. Those rankings then correlate with the level of remuneration.

    The contracts, which cover a 12-month period commencing 1 October 2019, have been awarded to the following players:

    Test Match

    James Anderson (Lancashire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Rory Burns (Surrey), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Ben Stokes (Durham), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire).

    ODI / T20

    Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Joe Denly (Kent), Eoin Morgan (Middlesex), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).

    Incremental

    Tom Curran (Surrey), Jack Leach (Somerset)

  • Seems like a good set of decisions on central contracts.  Although it's very telling that they have awarded ten central contracts to Test players, and the one position they have not included is the second opener: the search continues.  Also, it's good to see that six seamers have central contracts (including two who don't play white ball at all) - that means the ECB are in the best position to monitor and optimise their workloads.  

    There has to be a big question mark over Alex Hales' England career now. 
  • Chizz said:
    Seems like a good set of decisions on central contracts.  Although it's very telling that they have awarded ten central contracts to Test players, and the one position they have not included is the second opener: the search continues.  Also, it's good to see that six seamers have central contracts (including two who don't play white ball at all) - that means the ECB are in the best position to monitor and optimise their workloads.  

    There has to be a big question mark over Alex Hales' England career now. 
    I can't see him being picked at the moment, we won the World Cup without him, we don't need to bother with the hassle it might bring picking him. 
  • So, does that mean, that on the odd occasions that, say, Joffra can play for Sussex, that he is playing for them for free?
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