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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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I get you're annoyed with the nonsense spoken on here at times, but you do yourself no favours putting the geezer from X Factor up frontPopIcon said:People dont half post some shit on here.
In an absolute ideal world, in my opinion, players for us to bring in would be something like:
Peter Shilton in his early 30s
New CB (Possibly Beckenbauer or Moore if he's not available)
Krystian Bielik (If not at centre back, then in defensive midfield)
Fat Ronaldo before he was fat
Harry Kane
Messi
Maradona aged 26
<b>Zico<b>0 -
Emery who would you prefer?
Laurent Koscielny or Bielik?
Sokratis at his best or Bielik?
Mustafi or Bielik?
If your answer doesn't start with a 'B' you are out of a job next June.1 -
I think it's his fitness which was his biggest issue, he's acknowledged it himself. With a full preseason alongside the first team, and the likes of Pratley to give him guidance, I expect this to be much improved this seasonForeverAddickted said:
Must work on his side of the game off the ball, think he'll be punished by opponents a bit more if notobjectivecafc said:I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season
If he has managed to work on that side then almost definitely, my favourite goal of last season was his pass to Taylor against Rochdale2 -
My ignorance but I'd never heard of Bielik when he joined and knew little about Cullen other than he played for Bradford.
Gallen knew a lot more and I'm sure he knows a lot more still about other premier league fringe players that are both available cheaply and can fit into and improve our squad.
I doubt they will all arrive until the last week but so be it.
It doesn't have to be Bielik and Cullen although I'd be happy with both.27 -
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,0 -
Alfie Doughty will be there or thereaboutsobjectivecafc said:I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season2 -
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders0 -
Was aware of Bielik cos of decent fee they paid but never seen him. Cullen imagine off most people's radar, didn't he have other lack-lustre loans?
Gives a dilemma re Gallen. Do you promote him to DoF or pay him (our) going rate as chief scout at which he excells?1 -
System isnt broken so doesnt need to be changedharveys_gardener said:Was aware of Bielik cos of decent fee they paid but never seen him. Cullen imagine off most people's radar, didn't he have other lack-lustre loans?
Gives a dilemma re Gallen. Do you promote him to DoF or pay him (our) going rate as chief scout at which he excells?
Would only change it once Bowyer eventually leaves and we start making suspect signings as there would be one of two questions
(1) Has Gallen lost his touch, in which case we move him on
(2) Is the new Manager not listening to Gallen, in which case do we then appoint him Director of Football to get back to the signings we're making now0 -
I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamondForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders2 - Sponsored links:
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It's funny how names come back in fashion, I never thought I'd see an Alfred (Alfie) and Albert (Albie) potentially playing alongside each other!No.1 in South London said:
Alfie Doughty will be there or thereaboutsobjectivecafc said:I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season3 -
Think we're both right after a quick Google...moutuakilla said:
I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamondForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.
So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker0 -
Or a false 9?0
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I imagine our new no 10 hasn't the energy to attack a mossie at the moment.0
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Lineker used to wear the number 10 shirt, but Ian Wright wore the number 8 and both played in the same position.ForeverAddickted said:
Think we're both right after a quick Google...moutuakilla said:
I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamondForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.
So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker
Indeed when Lineker played with Beardsley, Beardsley wore 9 when in modern day terms he was far more of a "10"!0 -
I assume when Bowyer says 10 he means the attacking midfielder in the diamond or 3-5-2/5-3-2.ForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders1 -
I hope Aneke knows where he is playing, not sure what we'll do if he gets fed up and chuks it all inForeverAddickted said:
Think we're both right after a quick Google...moutuakilla said:
I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamondForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.
So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker2 -
I thought he was awful against Spain. He's not a CH for meEast_Stand_Loopy said:
Except Bielik didn't just have one good season in League 1.paulie8290 said:
Both clubs would be stupid to sell this summer, neither Arsenal or West Ham are desperate for cash and 1 good season in League 1 wont make the clubs offer millions and millions.shuffles67 said:Not sure we'll be seeing either Bielik or Cullen this year think both players will be sold by there respective clubs and for a lot more than we can afford
Loan to a top Champ or lower prem team, then of they have another good season could sell for a lot more next season
He was outstanding in the U21 championship for Poland.
And next year, they can both leave for nothing.0 -
When I first started watching Charlton in the mid-60s, teams lined up like that.ForeverAddickted said:
Isnt a No.10 a Striker?moutuakilla said:
LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?DamoNorthStand said:
No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.ForeverAddickted said:Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players
Phillips
Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
Aneke
Bonne | Taylor
Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee
If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
I would expect
Phillips
Djiksteel
Pearce
Sarr
Purrington
JFC
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Loanee)
New Signing (Oztumer?)
Aneke
Taylor
Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing
Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,
No.1 - Goalkeeper
No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
No. 9 - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
Even back then, invariably the 10 was the left sided central midfielder playing in tandem with the right sided 4, rather than the striker pairing (8 & 9).
Before that, in the old WM formation of the 50s and earlier, when wingers hugged the touchline either side, it was the left sided inside forward who wore 10 and the right sided inside forward who wore 8, playing behind the centre forward who played 9. The inside forwards were the creative players with good ability on the ball and defence splitting passing. They weren't a 'striker' as such but obviously were expected to contribute their share of goals.
In recent manager-speak, the 10 is usually understood to be the creative AM who sits behind the front 2 and opens up defences.
It's a term of reference for the position or role, rather than a shirt number these days.
Wibble.
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And of the two centre halves, one would attack the ball the other would drop and sweep up. Not sure in the old days a ten played behind two, he was more the link man with the bigger 'nuisance'0
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What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back0
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Cawley didn’t think it was happeningAddick90 said:What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back
https://twitter.com/richcawleyslp/status/1142004755373469696?s=21
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People were either talking tosh or had been told tosh so they could up their like counts/be recognised for getting something right.Addick90 said:What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back
I reckon he will end up at either Pompey or Ipswich, maybe Barnsley if they sell Moore0 -
Is there a released list anywhere? Any other stand out League 1 and 2 players out of contract who we may be after?0
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/released-players-championship-league-one-16252634.ampScoham said:Is there a released list anywhere? Any other stand out League 1 and 2 players out of contract who we may be after?
West Broms released list consists of players i thought had all retired a few years back!
Bradley Johnson, Garry Hooper and Wilfred Bony... just a little out of our budget!1 -
Totally agreeRedhenry said:
I thought he was awful against Spain. He's not a CH for meEast_Stand_Loopy said:
Except Bielik didn't just have one good season in League 1.paulie8290 said:
Both clubs would be stupid to sell this summer, neither Arsenal or West Ham are desperate for cash and 1 good season in League 1 wont make the clubs offer millions and millions.shuffles67 said:Not sure we'll be seeing either Bielik or Cullen this year think both players will be sold by there respective clubs and for a lot more than we can afford
Loan to a top Champ or lower prem team, then of they have another good season could sell for a lot more next season
He was outstanding in the U21 championship for Poland.
And next year, they can both leave for nothing.0 -
Most players in the U21 tournie were awful vs Spain.1
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Scoham said:Is there a released list anywhere? Any other stand out League 1 and 2 players out of contract who we may be after?
Had a brief look and league 2 doesn’t seem to offer anything.
Quite a few well known names going on frees in the championship as well but I don’t think they’re the kind of players Bowyer would want. A few below that I’d say are the pick of the bunch from the Championship and league 1. (Assuming the lists online are accurate)
Lee Burge
Ryan Tafazolli
David Ball
Adedeji Oshilaja
Josh McEachran
Grant Ward
Paul Coutts
Mile Jedinak
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