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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season
    Must work on his side of the game off the ball, think he'll be punished by opponents a bit more if not

    If he has managed to work on that side then almost definitely, my favourite goal of last season was his pass to Taylor against Rochdale
  • PopIcon said:
    People dont half post some shit on here.

    In an absolute ideal world, in my opinion, players for us to bring in would be something like:

    Peter Shilton in his early 30s

    New CB (Possibly Beckenbauer or Moore if he's not available)

    Krystian Bielik (If not at centre back, then in defensive midfield)

    Fat Ronaldo before he was fat

    Harry Kane

    Messi

    Maradona aged 26

    <b>Zico<b>
    I get you're annoyed with the nonsense spoken on here at times,  but you do yourself no favours putting the geezer from X Factor up front
  • Emery who would you prefer?

    Laurent Koscielny or Bielik?
    Sokratis at his best or Bielik?
    Mustafi or Bielik?

    If your answer doesn't start with a 'B' you are out of a job next June.
  • I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season
    Must work on his side of the game off the ball, think he'll be punished by opponents a bit more if not

    If he has managed to work on that side then almost definitely, my favourite goal of last season was his pass to Taylor against Rochdale
    I think it's his fitness which was his biggest issue, he's acknowledged it himself. With a full preseason alongside the first team, and the likes of Pratley to give him guidance, I expect this to be much improved this season
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
  • I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season
    Alfie Doughty will be there or thereabouts 
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
  • Was aware of Bielik cos of decent fee they paid but never seen him. Cullen imagine off most people's radar, didn't he have other lack-lustre loans? 

    Gives a dilemma re Gallen. Do you promote him to DoF or pay him (our) going rate as chief scout at which he excells?
  • edited July 2019
    Was aware of Bielik cos of decent fee they paid but never seen him. Cullen imagine off most people's radar, didn't he have other lack-lustre loans? 

    Gives a dilemma re Gallen. Do you promote him to DoF or pay him (our) going rate as chief scout at which he excells?
    System isnt broken so doesnt need to be changed

    Would only change it once Bowyer eventually leaves and we start making suspect signings as there would be one of two questions

    (1) Has Gallen lost his touch, in which case we move him on
    (2) Is the new Manager not listening to Gallen, in which case do we then appoint him Director of Football to get back to the signings we're making now
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  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamond
  • edited July 2019
    I think Morgan may be the one who steps up for next season
    Alfie Doughty will be there or thereabouts 
    It's funny how names come back in fashion, I never thought I'd see an Alfred (Alfie) and Albert (Albie) potentially playing alongside each other!
  • edited July 2019
    Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamond
    Think we're both right after a quick Google...

    It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.

    So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker
  • Or a false 9?
  • edited July 2019
    I imagine our new no 10 hasn't the energy to attack a mossie at the moment.
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamond
    Think we're both right after a quick Google...

    It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.

    So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker
    Lineker used to wear the number 10 shirt, but Ian Wright wore the number 8 and both played in the same position.

    Indeed when  Lineker played with Beardsley, Beardsley wore 9 when in modern day terms he was far more of a "10"!
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    I assume when Bowyer says 10 he means the attacking midfielder in the diamond or 3-5-2/5-3-2.
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    I thought the 10 was an attacking mid say behind the strikers/forwards? Tip of the diamond
    Think we're both right after a quick Google...

    It is also the only position on the field that is required to be occupied. "10" is one of the most emblematic squad numbers in football, due to the sheer number of football legends that used the number 10 shirt; playmakers, second strikers and attacking midfielders usually wear this number.

    So can be either the attacking midfielder (like you say) or second striker
    I hope Aneke knows where he is playing, not sure what we'll do if he gets fed up and chuks it all in
  • Not sure we'll be seeing either Bielik or Cullen this year think both players will be sold by there respective clubs and for a lot more than we can afford
    Both clubs would be stupid to sell this summer, neither Arsenal or West Ham are desperate for cash and 1 good season in League 1 wont make the clubs offer millions and millions.

    Loan to a top Champ or lower prem team, then of they have another good season could sell for a lot more next season
    Except Bielik didn't just have one good season in League 1.

    He was outstanding in the U21 championship for Poland.

    And next year, they can both leave for nothing.
    I thought he was awful against Spain. He's not a CH for me
  • Much better position already though and thats before we bring in five loan players

    Phillips
    Solly | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Loanee | Dijksteel | Forster-Caskey
    Aneke
    Bonne | Taylor

    Bench: Loanee (GK) | Pearce | Page | Pratley | Lapslie | Loanee | Loanee

    If we can sign Oztumer then we're a lot closer to the squad depth we had last season and that makes me a lot more comfortable than how I felt at the end of May - Yes I had faith in Bowyer and Gallen but definitely didnt expect them to make the permanent signings of Purrington | Aneke | Lockyer (Bonne is still untested), definitely didnt expect them to be of that level and we could of course still bring in Ben Amos and Jonny Williams on permanent deals too
    No way is Solly a champ starter at right back, and Bonne who is coming from non league isn’t a starter. Even Aneke is coming from league 2.

    I would expect 

    Phillips

    Djiksteel
    Pearce
    Sarr
    Purrington

    JFC
    New Signing (Loanee)
    New Signing (Loanee)

    New Signing (Oztumer?)

    Aneke
    Taylor

    Subs: New Signing (Amos?), Solly, Lockyer, Morgan, Pratley, New Signing (Williams?), New Striker Signing

    Squad: Page, Lapslie, Bonne, Stevenson, Aouachria,  
    LB wants Aneke as the 10, so either Taylor as a lone striker, which isn't ideal given his proclivity to hitting the wings, or we sign another striker or two?
    Isnt a No.10 a Striker?

    No.1 - Goalkeeper
    No. 2 | 3 - Full-Backs
    No. 5 | 6 - Centre-Backs
    No. 4 | 8 - Centre-Midfield
    No. 9  - Striker or Attacking Midfield (i.e. false nine)
    No. 7 | 11 - Wingers / Midfielders
    When I first started watching Charlton in the mid-60s, teams lined up like that.
    Even back then, invariably the 10 was the left sided central midfielder playing in tandem with the right sided 4, rather than the striker pairing (8 & 9).

    Before that, in the old WM formation of the 50s and earlier, when wingers hugged the touchline either side, it was the left sided inside forward who wore 10 and the right sided inside forward who wore 8, playing behind the centre forward who played 9. The inside forwards were the creative players with good ability on the ball and defence splitting passing. They weren't a 'striker' as such but obviously were expected to contribute their share of goals.

    In recent manager-speak, the 10 is usually understood to be the creative AM who sits behind the front 2 and opens up defences. 

    It's a term of reference for the position or role, rather than a shirt number these days.

    Wibble.

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  • Can we keep this thread to rumours? 
  • edited July 2019
    And of the two centre halves, one would attack the ball the other would drop and sweep up. Not sure in the old days a ten played behind two, he was more the link man with the bigger 'nuisance'
  • What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back 
  • Addick90 said:
    What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back 
    I'm sure I heard someone was Eavesdropping.


  • Addick90 said:
    What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back 
    Cawley didn’t think it was happening

    https://twitter.com/richcawleyslp/status/1142004755373469696?s=21
  • Addick90 said:
    What happened to the eaves rumour being nailed on a few weeks back 
    People were either talking tosh or had been told tosh so they could up their like counts/be recognised for getting something right. 

    I reckon he will end up at either Pompey or Ipswich, maybe Barnsley if they sell Moore 
  • Is there a released list anywhere? Any other stand out League 1 and 2 players out of contract who we may be after?
  • edited July 2019
    Scoham said:
    Is there a released list anywhere? Any other stand out League 1 and 2 players out of contract who we may be after?
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/released-players-championship-league-one-16252634.amp

    West Broms released list consists of players i thought had all retired a few years back!

    Bradley Johnson, Garry Hooper and Wilfred Bony... just a little out of our budget!
  • Redhenry said:
    Not sure we'll be seeing either Bielik or Cullen this year think both players will be sold by there respective clubs and for a lot more than we can afford
    Both clubs would be stupid to sell this summer, neither Arsenal or West Ham are desperate for cash and 1 good season in League 1 wont make the clubs offer millions and millions.

    Loan to a top Champ or lower prem team, then of they have another good season could sell for a lot more next season
    Except Bielik didn't just have one good season in League 1.

    He was outstanding in the U21 championship for Poland.

    And next year, they can both leave for nothing.
    I thought he was awful against Spain. He's not a CH for me
    Totally agree
  • Most players in the U21 tournie were awful vs Spain.
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