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I just hope that the overwhelming response from people within the game, and the media, is supportive. This was certainly the case with Steve Davies, but also with the rugby player Gareth Thomas - who was, I believe, surprised and pleased by the unexpected wave of support. The more that LGBTQ sportspeople are brave enough to stop hiding their sexuality, the easier it will be for others, and the greater the likelihood that abuse will diminish.10
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The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
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I'm far more concerned with acts of violence, rather than a few morons singing songs at football.palarsehater said:
im saying the usual suspects on here that would swear london and the uk was on par with saudi arabia for gay rights.Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not
If you hear the songs, tell the idiots to stop, one step at a time we can make the world a better place。2 -
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day, just you and me
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So if it's not as bad as it could be, that's okay. You get beaten up on a bus instead of stoned to death, you really can't complain.palarsehater said:
im saying the usual suspects on here that would swear london and the uk was on par with saudi arabia for gay rights.Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not1 -
Problem is a lot of people won't say anything in fear of getting a slap. Most of the time its a lot easier to say nothing.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'm far more concerned with acts of violence, rather than a few morons singing songs at football.palarsehater said:
im saying the usual suspects on here that would swear london and the uk was on par with saudi arabia for gay rights.Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not
If you hear the songs, tell the idiots to stop, one step at a time we can make the world a better place。0 -
Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.1 -
For those suggesting I am looking for financial gain by doing this, I'm not. Should any financial offers be made for interviews etc, I will be asking that they are shared between @stonewalluk, @JustLikeUsUK, @LGBTfdn and @Kaleidoscope_T.
Just tweeted this.
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Which is understandable, safety is numbers will help though, it helped with removing racism from the game, for the most part.ValleyGary said:
Problem is a lot of people won't say anything in fear of getting a slap. Most of the time its a lot easier to say nothing.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'm far more concerned with acts of violence, rather than a few morons singing songs at football.palarsehater said:
im saying the usual suspects on here that would swear london and the uk was on par with saudi arabia for gay rights.Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not
If you hear the songs, tell the idiots to stop, one step at a time we can make the world a better place。0 -
I hope I am just helping you to see that the actions of your company and your colleagues' behaviour fell very bellow the standard they should have. It's no-one's business who your colleague sleeps with, until he decides to tell you. Even if your colleagues' stalking behaviour has come up with an interesting "find". Even if the interrogation from the boss failed to have the "desired effect".johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.
Your colleagues' behaviour needs showing up; not his. Even if it is a bit "annoying" not know what shape his partner's genitalia are.0 -
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🎶Watching, waiting🎶Covered End said:
I have to say it makes a change to see an outsider in the lead.ValleyGary said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
It's a pity Stephen Yaxley has been locked up.ValleyGary said:
When the left implode on themselves.palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Palarsehater would be leading the chants in an ironic 1970s way.....se9addick said:
Do you reckon? Maybe at some clubs/some individuals but I don’t know if you would get big/nonstop homophobic chanting against this guy at most grounds.palarsehater said:wouldnt be suprised if it is a fringe player as to be starting every match its going to be constant chants of xxxxx takes it up the ass etchoof_it_up_to_benty said:
You need some new material.BR7_addick said:
They’re still trying to work out who ranks highest on the WokeometerValleyGary said:
When the left implode on themselves.palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.
Leading by 3 lengthshoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Hopefully Trump will export the twat to the US.Rothko said:
What do you call an asylum seeker? Tommy Robinsonhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
You need some new material.BR7_addick said:
They’re still trying to work out who ranks highest on the WokeometerValleyGary said:
When the left implode on themselves.palarsehater said:but football fans chanting are the least of the worry as most religions cannot abide homosexuality but we dont call them out as its frowned upon - for another day i feel.
A couple of odds on joint favourites are nowhere as yet.
Mind, it's 4 miles so we've barely started :-)0 -
True but racism got shouted down. Along with players making a stand and red, white and black things have improved. Not perfect but it's not like it was.ValleyGary said:
Problem is a lot of people won't say anything in fear of getting a slap. Most of the time its a lot easier to say nothing.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'm far more concerned with acts of violence, rather than a few morons singing songs at football.palarsehater said:
im saying the usual suspects on here that would swear london and the uk was on par with saudi arabia for gay rights.Stu_of_Kunming said:I'm not sure pride is 'attacking' London, the pride activities here certainly didn't seem like an attack.
As for statistics, I'll have to get back to you when I have access to google, in the morning, sadly I can't agree that there isn't a problem with attacks in The Uk.
Athough even if there isn't a problem, shouldnt we be proud that our country is leading the fight for equal rights?
if the player was a starting member of a team - i am 100% sure that every game he would get some sort of abuse because of his sexuality - that does not mean as a nation we are a homophobic one - its football crowd doing what football crowds do - is it acceptable - no its not
If you hear the songs, tell the idiots to stop, one step at a time we can make the world a better place。
Things can more on homophobia to but just as people said "oh, why make a fuss, it's just a song, no one gets hurt, everyone does it, I've got a black mate and he doesn't mind" about racist songs then some people will try and down play homophobic stuff now.
It's just not needed, there's no justification for it and yes some people, rightly, get upset, afraid or depressed when hearing it.
You rightly pointed out that major religions, or parts of them, are very homophobic so why align with fundamentalist Christians and Muslims (Israel is one of the world's most gay friendly countries btw).6 -
Chizz said:
I hope I am just helping you to see that the actions of your company and your colleagues' behaviour fell very bellow the standard they should have. It's no-one's business who your colleague sleeps with, until he decides to tell you. Even if your colleagues' stalking behaviour has come up with an interesting "find". Even if the interrogation from the boss failed to have the "desired effect".johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.
Your colleagues' behaviour needs showing up; not his. Even if it is a bit "annoying" not know what shape his partner's genitalia are.
Again twisting shit, bore off!We have not said we need to find out, or they need to 'come out' publicly, if you look back at my posts. If that's how you have interpreted it or I have worded it that is incorrect.
There was no interrogation either, it come up in passing ' oh I noticed you were tagged with your friend' and wasn't meant in any other way or agenda. Suppose its one of those had to be there moments, but our office is not like that at all race or any form of discrimination it does not matter.
You haven't helped me do anything other than just a wind up or take things out of context. So please leave it, as I do not feel you are worth my time or wish for you to validate my side of things1 -
I can't see this being genuine, think it's just some random attention seeker on Twitter getting kicks out of everyone talking about his page.
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OK. Meet me half-way? Would you agree that it's no-one else's business who your colleague sleeps with until and unless he decides to tell you?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
I hope I am just helping you to see that the actions of your company and your colleagues' behaviour fell very bellow the standard they should have. It's no-one's business who your colleague sleeps with, until he decides to tell you. Even if your colleagues' stalking behaviour has come up with an interesting "find". Even if the interrogation from the boss failed to have the "desired effect".johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.
Your colleagues' behaviour needs showing up; not his. Even if it is a bit "annoying" not know what shape his partner's genitalia are.
Again twisting shit, bore off!We have not said we need to find out, or they need to 'come out' publicly, if you look back at my posts. If that's how you have interpreted it or I have worded it that is incorrect.
There was no interrogation either, it come up in passing ' oh I noticed you were tagged with your friend' and wasn't meant in any other way or agenda. Suppose its one of those had to be there moments, but our office is not like that at all race or any form of discrimination it does not matter.
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Chizz said:
OK. Meet me half-way? Would you agree that it's no-one else's business who your colleague sleeps with until and unless he decides to tell you?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
I hope I am just helping you to see that the actions of your company and your colleagues' behaviour fell very bellow the standard they should have. It's no-one's business who your colleague sleeps with, until he decides to tell you. Even if your colleagues' stalking behaviour has come up with an interesting "find". Even if the interrogation from the boss failed to have the "desired effect".johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.
Your colleagues' behaviour needs showing up; not his. Even if it is a bit "annoying" not know what shape his partner's genitalia are.
Again twisting shit, bore off!We have not said we need to find out, or they need to 'come out' publicly, if you look back at my posts. If that's how you have interpreted it or I have worded it that is incorrect.
There was no interrogation either, it come up in passing ' oh I noticed you were tagged with your friend' and wasn't meant in any other way or agenda. Suppose its one of those had to be there moments, but our office is not like that at all race or any form of discrimination it does not matter.
You haven't helped me do anything other than just a wind up or take things out of context. So please leave it, as I do not feel you are worth my time or wish for you to validate my side of things
100% I agreeGirls will be girls and stalk everyones profile unfortunately (don't mean to sterotype but in this case it was), from that point it was only going downhill once one discovered and office gossip
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Your bosses behaviour was probably worse to be fair.johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
OK. Meet me half-way? Would you agree that it's no-one else's business who your colleague sleeps with until and unless he decides to tell you?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
I hope I am just helping you to see that the actions of your company and your colleagues' behaviour fell very bellow the standard they should have. It's no-one's business who your colleague sleeps with, until he decides to tell you. Even if your colleagues' stalking behaviour has come up with an interesting "find". Even if the interrogation from the boss failed to have the "desired effect".johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
The person's boss tried to encourage him to talk for the first time about his sexuality in a "private" meeting and then revealed the contents of the conversation to (some or all of) the rest of the company. And he did this to avoid a situation that might be "awkward"?johnnybev1987 said:Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
Chizz said:
Thankfully, they were able to stop being annoyed by simply taking the route of stalking of him through Instagram. And well done to the team leader who tried to out him publicly in a 1-2-1 and was open and honest enough to tell people about it afterwards.Leroy Ambrose said:
Sad that it was 'annoying' for you. Imagine how 'annoying' it must have been for him to read about the two women who had the shit knocked out of them on a bus a couple of weeks back. Or how 'annoying' it was that he was so scared of ridicule/homophobia that he felt compelled to lie to work colleagues when they pried into his private life.johnnybev1987 said:Cafc43v3r said:
If you were LBGT and weren't "out" to your work mates would you be happy taking your partner to a works do? If your a footballer, or anyone else in the public eye, you can't lead a normal life if your hiding your sexuality.Dazzler21 said:I personally don't get why anyone has to be open about their sexuality, but no one should be forced to hide it either. Just live and let live.
Of course your right, that's how it should be, unfortunately we all know that's not how easy life is, even in 2019.
Interesting story, or not? Someone I currently work with joined our department from another, he would always refer to 'partner' or Christina, 6 months down the line some of the girls in the office basically saw through instagram that 'she' was in fact ' he' but he continued to still refer to his 'Mrs' everytime , which started getting a bit annoying. A team leader mentioned in a 1-2-1 people think you have a BF not a GF, to gauge their reaction and hopefully get them to just not lie, this did not come out still.Eventually probably a year down the line, he suddenly refer to Christopher not Christina. My Boyfriend, whilst I know it must be very hard but it was the whole ordeal and the constant lies which started to annoy people, once we knew it kind of made sense but before then no one would have any idea. It was also bad as it must have been so hard for him to live every day life knowing they were lieing.
Cliffs- Noone was any different after the event and basically it would have been better for him if he had been open from the off
I didn't say they tried to out the person publicly, they discussed it in a private meeting and he merely just nodded and didn't say anything. They were doing this more thinking of them, not to get them to 'come out' but more to support them and as Chinese whispers and people find out, it would be less awkward. It had no desired effect and he just one day came in on his own accord and changed what he would reference his partner and nothing more was said of it.
To be honest, my sympathy isn't with the boss. Despite him/her failing to get the "desired effect". Whatever that might have been.
Stop twisting my shit, I have not said anyone deserves any sympathy. Clearly you are nitpicking now, I have responded to what I have put initially, but I am not going to bother now you are not worth it.
Your colleagues' behaviour needs showing up; not his. Even if it is a bit "annoying" not know what shape his partner's genitalia are.
Again twisting shit, bore off!We have not said we need to find out, or they need to 'come out' publicly, if you look back at my posts. If that's how you have interpreted it or I have worded it that is incorrect.
There was no interrogation either, it come up in passing ' oh I noticed you were tagged with your friend' and wasn't meant in any other way or agenda. Suppose its one of those had to be there moments, but our office is not like that at all race or any form of discrimination it does not matter.
You haven't helped me do anything other than just a wind up or take things out of context. So please leave it, as I do not feel you are worth my time or wish for you to validate my side of things
100% I agreeGirls will be girls and stalk everyones profile unfortunately (don't mean to sterotype but in this case it was), from that point it was only going downhill once one discovered and office gossip
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What a load of nonsense. If you're gay, you're gay. It's 2019 for crying out loud. All this cryptic stuff on Twitter is unnecessary.
No need to turn your sexuality into a publicity stunt
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It's 2019. People are still getting abused and assaulted for their sexuality. No high profile male football player has come out publicly while still playing in decades. So yeah it does need publicity and lots of it.Gravesend_Addick said:What a load of nonsense. If you're gay, you're gay. It's 2019 for crying out loud. All this cryptic stuff on Twitter is unnecessary.
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I'd say the way this thread has gone perfectly demonstrates just why such a planned and considered approach is necessary.16
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In an ideal world you’d be correct.Gravesend_Addick said:What a load of nonsense. If you're gay, you're gay. It's 2019 for crying out loud. All this cryptic stuff on Twitter is unnecessary.
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I would be curious as to his views on homosexuality.Henry Irving said:"Until the colour of a man's skin matters no more than the colour of his eyes"
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Cabbles.. Isn't about time individuals who are obsessed with homophobia/gay behaviour get called out... And you know who I mean... The obsession with it is concerning.0
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I distinctly recall a conversation between me and one of my best pals when another good friend of ours called us to a summit to a pub in Gillingham to tell us what we had known for years, that he was gay. This would have been in about 2000 or 2001 at the latest.
Now before I write anymore I'm not trying to garner any thought that I am anything but a knuckle dragging caveman. I'm not a deep thinker but I am an honest conveyor of my thoughts.
When our pal went to the bog me and my other mate digested and spoke about what we had been told and agreed it was no big deal for us, that it would have been a big deal for him and it didnt bother us in the slightest. I also commented that in ten years there wouldn't be any gay/straight anymore just people shagging who they wanted, so that would have taken us to 2010 or 11. Our mate came back and we began the predictable playful puerile jokes and questions and piss taking, in the same tone that we had always talked and we are all still very close pals. As far as I'm concerned my friend X is not 'my gay mate' has just one of my chums who happens to prefer shagging men, which is absolutely gravy with me and a total afterthought now.
In the intervening years I have attended gay pride in Brighton, kind of by accident as I was seeing a gorgeous woman from Brighton qt the time and that was the weekend it happened to be mutually convenient for me to come and stay as opposed to the poor girl having to come and stop with me at mine again. I had a fantastic time, ticked every stereotypical box that a straight white male does when attending the single most flamboyant and extravagant event in the UK and not at any point was I thinking 'why do these people have to make such a song and dance about being gay', I was just swept along with the whole thing and had an amazing time. Not to say @palarsehater is wrong because he is pretty much saying what I thought would have already happened by 2010.
And if I'm being honest I genuinely believe we are past point Rubicon now in regards homosexuality in the UK, you will always get incidents, isolated incidents, like the one where 2 poor girls were beaten up for refusing to appease a bunch of neanderthals on a bus anymore than a third generation bloke of Pakistani heritage has any right to call a nation racist or bigoted because some doughnut has racially abused them in the past and seek solace in some Jihadi preacher. I don't think anyone can attempt to use that as an example of the UK being intolerant. Britain is one of the most tolerant places on earth and I guarantee when the first professional footballer does come out they will have the support of most 99.9% of their colleagues and opponents certainly ones indigenous to Great Britain and I genuinely believe most football crowds will be supportive too.
We've all realised singing songs about people loving it up the arse and holding hands have no place in society and at least @palarsehater has been ballsy enough to admit he's done it and laughed about it, so have I, and I could identify a lot of liars who say they haven't I'd I really wanted to. Its obviously unacceptable but more to the point, I didnt have the wherewithal and emotional intelligence to realise it was wrong at the time, I do now and have done for a long time. Key thing is not to do it again and to understand why it's wrong.
And in regards people being gay, straight, whatever in the workplace I firmly believe that is the business of as few or as many people as I choose to make it. I would absolutely put anyone who stalked my facebook account in their place and embarrass them, if a fucking team leader tried any of the bullshit mentioned earlier I'd be dealing with them, if I was keeping my business to myself and some prick on 20 pound a week more than me decided to try and discover my business for the purpose of nosey dickheads on the office I'd turn them onside out. That person, annoying or not would have had a very solid case for constructive dismissal/workplace bullying just from the snippets shared.
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Covered End is innocent.palarsehater said:
put this man in jail and throw away the keyCovered End said:New balls please
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