It's clearly a Valley Pass website issue. The stream appeared for about a minute, then froze, and now cannot reload the page. Pissed off doesn't begin to cover it.
Today, streams are only available where there is no international broadcast rights deal. That's the below countries
Europe: Albania, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar,
Hungary, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Netherlands, San
Marino, Ukraine, Vatican City
Middle East and North Africa: Gaza Strip, South Sudan, West Bank
Sub-Saharan Africa: Botswana,
Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Lesotho, Liberia,
Namibia, Sao Tome e Principe, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Swaziland, Western
Sahara, Zimbabwe
Asia: Afghanistan, Bangladesh,
Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, East Timor, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Laos,
Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, North Korea, Pakistan,
Philippines, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand
Caribbean: Belize,
Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cuba, Puerto Rico, St Barthelemy, St
Helena, Ascension & Tristan da Cunha, St Kitts & Nevis, St
Martin, St Vincent & the Grenadines, US Virgin Island
South America: Falkland Islands
Oceania: American
Samoa, Christmas Island, Cocos Islands, Cook Islands, Federated States
of Micronesia, Fiji, French Polynesia, Guam, Kiribati, Marshall Islands,
Nauru, New Caledonia, Niue, Norfolk Islands, Northern Mariana, Palau,
Papua, New Guinea, Pitcairn Islands, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tokelau,
Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Wallis & Futuna
I didnt think there was a stream during Sky Live games....I cant see the match day pass on the site here
There is but limited to certain territories. That wasn't the issue for me, I was using my VPN to tune in from luxembourg. Terry gave me an address to complain to, which I just did, and I am now watching an illegal stream. Not good enough. If they ( and I don't mean the club) offer a paid service it has to be superior to free content.
I didnt think there was a stream during Sky Live games....I cant see the match day pass on the site here
There is but limited to certain territories. That wasn't the issue for me, I was using my VPN to tune in from luxembourg. Terry gave me an address to complain to, which I just did, and I am now watching an illegal stream. Not good enough. If they ( and I don't mean the club) offer a paid service it has to be superior to free content.
I tried various countries via VPN, no luck just listened to the audio in the end.
I wrote to "them" using the address Terry Smith gave me. They wrote back saying they wouldn't "support" me cos I was using a VPN. Bad move on their part....
I wrote to "them" using the address Terry Smith gave me. They wrote back saying they wouldn't "support" me cos I was using a VPN. Bad move on their part....
Yep I got blanked as soon as I mentioned VPN but I think it gives them an out . im gonna have a go when genuinely abroad and I’ll bet it doesn’t work on my iPad
The countries listed on the official website are wrong, or at least you can add Cyprus, Hungary and Bermuda to Luxemburg. Lots of people habitually use a VPN because some systems have virus/scam protection even domestically.
Telling a company you are breaking a Companies T+Cs then expecting support seems a little weird, these companies have contracts they have to adhere to!
Try telling Netflix about using a VPN and see how far you get.
Telling a company you are breaking a Companies T+Cs then expecting support seems a little weird, these companies have contracts they have to adhere to!
Try telling Netflix about using a VPN and see how far you get.
Initially I did NOT tell them. I simply wrote that it could not be a rights issue because I was tuning in from Luxembourg. They wrote back that they "detected" a VPN in use, and then I told them exactly why it was in use.
Then let's indeed talk about their T&Cs. As Seth says, and as you know, people don't just use VPNs to disguise true locations, so I will be looking carefully at what T&C I agreed to in that respect. Then I shall look at whether the T&Cs gave me fair warning of how many games I would miss due to rights issues because I live in the Czech Republic. That's important because if you pay £110 and the number of games you can access is reduced from 46 to, say, 38 because of rights, you have been misled about the cost. That is against UK law. Furthermore, despite asking extensively, not one person locally can locate the mysterious Czech content provider who screened this live. Of course not, they have trouble flogging subs for the Czech top league. I've asked this shower to tell me who it is, so I can watch via that provider. But I am sure it does not exist. In which case I have been barred for no reason and they should compensate me.
But as I told them, I just want them to fix it so that I can watch the games I paid for. But they won't because they are obviously a weak two bob outfit.
For Fulham I wrote the five quid off. After all the club are doing it all out of the goodness of their heart and I look on the five quid like a charitable donation.
For Fulham I wrote the five quid off. After all the club are doing it all out of the goodness of their heart and I look on the five quid like a charitable donation.
The question is how much of the fiver the club sees anyway. That won't be in the effing T&Cs either.
I hope that making a kerfuffle about this won't screw it up for everybody.
Basically, anybody can now watch any game they want... And that is amazing...
Making too much fuss (especially when you are breaking the rules) could lead to removal of service for everyone....
And that would be the proverbial cutting off of nose to spite face
I'm not normally keen on people telling me not to make a fuss. But you might have a point here. As it happens while I was reading this, my Czech buddy pinged me a link which might be the mysterious Czech provider (which i have asked this shower to name). So I might instead tell them that they should name all the local providers of the game, so that people like me can at least have the choice of paying for the local provider's screening. Then, I will say, people like me don't need to use a VPN for the wrong reasons.
I hope that making a kerfuffle about this won't screw it up for everybody.
Basically, anybody can now watch any game they want... And that is amazing...
Making too much fuss (especially when you are breaking the rules) could lead to removal of service for everyone....
And that would be the proverbial cutting off of nose to spite face
I'm not normally keen on people telling me not to make a fuss. But you might have a point here. As it happens while I was reading this, my Czech buddy pinged me a link which might be the mysterious Czech provider (which i have asked this shower to name). So I might instead tell them that they should name all the local providers of the game, so that people like me can at least have the choice of paying for the local provider's screening. Then, I will say, people like me don't need to use a VPN for the wrong reasons.
Yeah this is the danger I guess of contacting them, you've highlighted something which you should not be doing. Saying that, it's easy enough for anyone to find out the IP addresses that each VPN provider owns or rents and they can be blocked. Whilst they should clamp down hard on this it's not really in their best interest.
I have an IPTV service that broadcasts the games that are streamed on iFollow on on another clubs service, I'll then stream the valley pass comms to my soundbar and tweak it a bit to get them in sync. It does me.
Telling a company you are breaking a Companies T+Cs then expecting support seems a little weird, these companies have contracts they have to adhere to!
Try telling Netflix about using a VPN and see how far you get.
Initially I did NOT tell them. I simply wrote that it could not be a rights issue because I was tuning in from Luxembourg. They wrote back that they "detected" a VPN in use, and then I told them exactly why it was in use.
Then let's indeed talk about their T&Cs. As Seth says, and as you know, people don't just use VPNs to disguise true locations, so I will be looking carefully at what T&C I agreed to in that respect. Then I shall look at whether the T&Cs gave me fair warning of how many games I would miss due to rights issues because I live in the Czech Republic. That's important because if you pay £110 and the number of games you can access is reduced from 46 to, say, 38 because of rights, you have been misled about the cost. That is against UK law. Furthermore, despite asking extensively, not one person locally can locate the mysterious Czech content provider who screened this live. Of course not, they have trouble flogging subs for the Czech top league. I've asked this shower to tell me who it is, so I can watch via that provider. But I am sure it does not exist. In which case I have been barred for no reason and they should compensate me.
But as I told them, I just want them to fix it so that I can watch the games I paid for. But they won't because they are obviously a weak two bob outfit.
I'm not sure what you what them to fix, they don't make the rules, they are simply following them. They don't even choose what games are shown internationally.
Just because there's more than one reason for people to use VPNs doesn't stop companies prohibiting thier use, iFollow do it, Valley Pass does it, netflix, bbc, itv, hulu and channel 4 too.
Search the T&Cs, you'll find I'm right, youll also find they never offered you 46 games, broardcasting rights was made very clear, which is one of the reasons I decided to pay game by game.
Seems ridiculous they cant tell Prague something that can be googled in 10seconds, piss poor customer service.
Ps, Prague, check out this great website, it's really good for finding information
www.google.com
Yes, very good, smart arse. Do you really think that I, and more importantly my Czech neighbour who is a digital marketing specialist with a UK based firm didn't try to search it? Maybe just maybe, the EFL hasn't got the best optimised website?
The people I was asked to address are not the EFL, btw...
It would also have been good if the EFL had given the Club that info to pass on, no? If you recall, the first time it happened, the Club knew nothing at all about this situation until 5 mins before KO.
It was a joke, lighten up ffs! I started off by saying it's piss poor customer service from them, although you have to wonder how callum found it if a master of digital marketing couldnt!
Edit: I just found it searching with 3 different phrases using shitty Bing, so I do wonder what you were putting into google in order to not find it?
I'm struggling as to how to access/pay for a matchday Valley Pass which, accordiing to my VP account, I did for the Barnsley match early in the season, paying £10.
I have tried to find the answer for myself via this thread but it's all too much for my old head today.
I did access games using a VPN & ifollow at times last season but thought that indicating you live "abroad" when purchasing enables you to pay for & watch the match live.
I'm struggling as to how to access/pay for a matchday Valley Pass which, accordiing to my VP account, I did for the Barnsley match early in the season, paying £10.
I have tried to find the answer for myself via this thread but it's all too much for my old head today.
I did access games using a VPN & ifollow at times last season but thought that indicating you live "abroad" when purchasing enables you to pay for & watch the match live.
Any help gratefully received, thanks, guys.
If you turn your VPN on before loading up the webpage you should get the option of a £5 match pass (as well as four other options)
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Not the rights problem I am connecting from Luxembourg. Pretty sure this is Valley Pass problem the page is now not even loading the screen. Anyone?
Europe: Albania, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Hungary, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Netherlands, San Marino, Ukraine, Vatican City
Middle East and North Africa: Gaza Strip, South Sudan, West Bank
Sub-Saharan Africa: Botswana, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau, Lesotho, Liberia, Namibia, Sao Tome e Principe, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Swaziland, Western Sahara, Zimbabwe
Asia: Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, East Timor, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Laos, Malaysia, Maldives, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, North Korea, Pakistan, Philippines, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand
Caribbean: Belize, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cuba, Puerto Rico, St Barthelemy, St Helena, Ascension & Tristan da Cunha, St Kitts & Nevis, St Martin, St Vincent & the Grenadines, US Virgin Island
South America: Falkland Islands
Oceania: American Samoa, Christmas Island, Cocos Islands, Cook Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Fiji, French Polynesia, Guam, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, New Caledonia, Niue, Norfolk Islands, Northern Mariana, Palau, Papua, New Guinea, Pitcairn Islands, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tokelau, Tonga, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Wallis & Futuna
im gonna have a go when genuinely abroad and I’ll bet it doesn’t work on my iPad
Lots of people habitually use a VPN because some systems have virus/scam protection even domestically.
Try telling Netflix about using a VPN and see how far you get.
Then let's indeed talk about their T&Cs. As Seth says, and as you know, people don't just use VPNs to disguise true locations, so I will be looking carefully at what T&C I agreed to in that respect. Then I shall look at whether the T&Cs gave me fair warning of how many games I would miss due to rights issues because I live in the Czech Republic. That's important because if you pay £110 and the number of games you can access is reduced from 46 to, say, 38 because of rights, you have been misled about the cost. That is against UK law. Furthermore, despite asking extensively, not one person locally can locate the mysterious Czech content provider who screened this live. Of course not, they have trouble flogging subs for the Czech top league. I've asked this shower to tell me who it is, so I can watch via that provider. But I am sure it does not exist. In which case I have been barred for no reason and they should compensate me.
But as I told them, I just want them to fix it so that I can watch the games I paid for. But they won't because they are obviously a weak two bob outfit.
After all the club are doing it all out of the goodness of their heart and I look on the five quid like a charitable donation.
Basically, anybody can now watch any game they want... And that is amazing...
Making too much fuss (especially when you are breaking the rules) could lead to removal of service for everyone....
And that would be the proverbial cutting off of nose to spite face
Just because there's more than one reason for people to use VPNs doesn't stop companies prohibiting thier use, iFollow do it, Valley Pass does it, netflix, bbc, itv, hulu and channel 4 too.
Search the T&Cs, you'll find I'm right, youll also find they never offered you 46 games, broardcasting rights was made very clear, which is one of the reasons I decided to pay game by game.
Czech Republic
Arena Sport 1-2, Digi Sport 1-4
Ps, Prague, check out this great website, it's really good for finding information
www.google.com
The people I was asked to address are not the EFL, btw...
It would also have been good if the EFL had given the Club that info to pass on, no? If you recall, the first time it happened, the Club knew nothing at all about this situation until 5 mins before KO.
Edit: I just found it searching with 3 different phrases using shitty Bing, so I do wonder what you were putting into google in order to not find it?
Don't miss many away games but today is one...
I'm struggling as to how to access/pay for a matchday Valley Pass which, accordiing to my VP account, I did for the Barnsley match early in the season, paying £10.
I have tried to find the answer for myself via this thread but it's all too much for my old head today.
I did access games using a VPN & ifollow at times last season but thought that indicating you live "abroad" when purchasing enables you to pay for & watch the match live.
Any help gratefully received, thanks, guys.
You can also use PayPal now
Will give it a try .