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  • Guidance

    Registration is now carried out via an online process through iFAS on the CPS.  Only in rare cases will it be necessary to email registration documents to the EFL.  If documents are sent via email Clubs will receive an automated response when emailing registration documents to playeradmin@efl.com.  If you do not receive this auto-acknowledgement, please notify the Player Administration department. The auto acknowledgement is not a confirmation of registration. 

    In the absence of confirmation by The League confirming a Player’s registration, clubs should always check a player's eligibility by telephone or via iFAS on the CPS.  The penalties for playing an ineligible player can be severe – see Regulation 44.2.

    43.7 An additional copy of the appropriate registration papers shall at the same time as a copy is despatched to The League be despatched to The Football Association.

    Guidance

    It is imperative registration documents are also sent to, and you obtain confirmation of registration from, the Football Association.  For those registrations types that are completed online, the system manages that process for you.  The reason is that it is the Football Association that is responsible for the application of any applicable FIFA Regulations (for example, confirming whether a player requires an International Transfer Certificate), and will also be able to advise on any ‘work permit’ requirements for overseas players.  Separate guidance on those requirements (now known as Governing Body Endorsements) is published on the CPS on a season by season basis – please refer to the Player Administration Section of the service.

    For Players requiring international clearance, please note that the FIFA Transfer Matching System operates with a strict deadline at the closure of each Transfer Window.

    43.8 Subject to Regulations 43.2, 43.3 and 57, a Player will only be eligible to play in a match organised by The League if the appropriate forms for his registration or the transfer of his registration (including, for the avoidance of doubt, Temporary Loan Transfers) are:

    43.8.1 submitted (in such manner as the League shall specify from time to time) to and received by The League by 12.00 noon on the day prior to the date of such match; and

    43.8.2 confirmed by the League to be in order.

    https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/

  • RedChaser said:
    @Addickted stirring it as usual and damaging our club.

    If transfer fails, blame him.


    Name that ground? Not you Henners because you was there  ;)
    Accrington Stanley
    Exactly.



    Sorry couldn't help myself!
  • clive said:

    Guidance

    Registration is now carried out via an online process through iFAS on the CPS.  Only in rare cases will it be necessary to email registration documents to the EFL.  If documents are sent via email Clubs will receive an automated response when emailing registration documents to playeradmin@efl.com.  If you do not receive this auto-acknowledgement, please notify the Player Administration department. The auto acknowledgement is not a confirmation of registration. 

    In the absence of confirmation by The League confirming a Player’s registration, clubs should always check a player's eligibility by telephone or via iFAS on the CPS.  The penalties for playing an ineligible player can be severe – see Regulation 44.2.

    43.7 An additional copy of the appropriate registration papers shall at the same time as a copy is despatched to The League be despatched to The Football Association.

    Guidance

    It is imperative registration documents are also sent to, and you obtain confirmation of registration from, the Football Association.  For those registrations types that are completed online, the system manages that process for you.  The reason is that it is the Football Association that is responsible for the application of any applicable FIFA Regulations (for example, confirming whether a player requires an International Transfer Certificate), and will also be able to advise on any ‘work permit’ requirements for overseas players.  Separate guidance on those requirements (now known as Governing Body Endorsements) is published on the CPS on a season by season basis – please refer to the Player Administration Section of the service.

    For Players requiring international clearance, please note that the FIFA Transfer Matching System operates with a strict deadline at the closure of each Transfer Window.

    43.8 Subject to Regulations 43.2, 43.3 and 57, a Player will only be eligible to play in a match organised by The League if the appropriate forms for his registration or the transfer of his registration (including, for the avoidance of doubt, Temporary Loan Transfers) are:

    43.8.1 submitted (in such manner as the League shall specify from time to time) to and received by The League by 12.00 noon on the day prior to the date of such match; and

    43.8.2 confirmed by the League to be in order.

    https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/

    This sounds like FA Approved, now EFL need to register. 
  • edited August 2019
    It would be awful if lots of people sent emails to playeradmin@efl.com to see whether their automated response system was working properly and carried properly calibrated time stamps.  

    I, for one, would be very disappointed if anyone were to do so.  Especially if they were to do so several times. 
  • Chizz said:
    It would be awful if lots of people sent emails to playeradmin@efl.com to see whether their automated response system was working properly and carried properly calibrated time stamps.  

    I, for one, would be very disappointed if anyone were to do so.  Especially if they were to do so several times. 

    Done. Received back at 1.25 pm.
  • Chizz said:
    It would be awful if lots of people sent emails to playeradmin@efl.com to see whether their automated response system was working properly and carried properly calibrated time stamps.  

    I, for one, would be very disappointed if anyone were to do so.  Especially if they were to do so several times. 

    Done. Received back at 1.25 pm.
    But did you send it 'close to the deadline', Golfie?


  • Unless I’m missing something, none of that explains what the EFLs role in this is, other than confirmation that the registration was in time to play in the next game. 

    I know they don’t have to tell us anything but it would be nice to know what the contentious issue is. 
  • i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
  • Am I missing something here?

    The deadline was 17:00

    Not 17:00:00 so as they are only requiring mintues, we had until 17:00:59 to get all paperwork in.

    If the deadline is advertised as 16:59:59 then we have no case.  

    If it's 17:00 surely as soon as 17:00:00 hits that is it deadline achieved?

    But it should be on sent and not received time.
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  • Am I missing something here?

    The deadline was 17:00

    Not 17:00:00 so as they are only requiring mintues, we had until 17:00:59 to get all paperwork in.

    If the deadline is advertised as 16:59:59 then we have no case.  

    Bit like a game though

    If there is no injury time then it'll end on 90:00 not 90:59
  • I have a sneaky feeling that after all this he will either be 1) shit or 2) fall over in training and be out for a year or 3) not our player! 
    4) Sold along with Taylor in January for £50k
  • Am I missing something here?

    The deadline was 17:00

    Not 17:00:00 so as they are only requiring mintues, we had until 17:00:59 to get all paperwork in.

    If the deadline is advertised as 16:59:59 then we have no case.  

    If that’s true a half decent lawyer could sort this with a letter. 
  • Actually, that is a good point JamesSeed. 17:01 is clearly too late, but 17:00:35 is 17:00. If you ask somebody the time, they don't give you the seconds. Mind you, there is probably something in the small print!
  • RedChaser said:
    @Addickted stirring it as usual and damaging our club.

    If transfer fails, blame him.


    Name that ground? Not you Henners because you was there  ;)
    Accrington Stanley
    Who are they ?
  • edited August 2019
    i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
    Good point, but in the absence of CEO, surely Chris Parkes has authority to sign documents, contracts, registrations, etc?

    Otherwise who completed the documentation of Kayal at the same time?

  • As long as they are an agreed representative of the club. surely it is up to the club to decide who can sign it off. As you say, we don't have a CEO so Parkes would be the logical person to do so. But he would also have signed off other deals so maybe this is not the issue.

    It does seem strange that we don't know more a week later, but maybe the club has been advised by its legal people not to antagonise.
  • i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
    Doubt it otherwise who was signing off the transfers all summer, we don't have any bloody staff do we! I would say the head tea cleaneris quite senior these days. 
  • I think Dazzler 21 may have hit the nail on the head, maybe as an international player it had to be referred to the FA first to check that everything was all in order, and got international clearance first and EFL will go through the formal process of registering him now. Who knows what the EFL do, other than worry about minor things? 
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  • edited August 2019
    Agreed re the other signings unless someone else signed for this and thats the issue. Possibly Rolands GoFor went home and delegated the signing to another.

    Timing seems a yes or no unless the FA had an issue with authority which needed RDs clarification taking it over the registration time limit?

    Speculation and nothing is black or white in Roland World
  • edited August 2019
    Oggy Red said:
    i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
    Good point, but in the absence of CEO, surely Chris Parkes has authority to sign documents, contracts, registrations, etc?

    Otherwise who completed the documentation of Kayal at the same time?


    I'd assume it's different paperwork for perms and loans... But I believe with all the evidence that I don't have... that this went to FA for international transfer clearance and is now with EFL to register.
  • edited August 2019
    In all the years I have been using this forum I can’t remember reading a thread with so many differing opinions as to WTF is going on.
    No one....not The EFL, The FA, Brighton or the club are saying a Dicky Bird, no one has a clue what’s going on....not just with the registration/ transfer, but the deal we have struck with Brighton, we don’t even know if he’s a Seagull or an Addick?
  • edited August 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    Oggy Red said:
    i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
    Good point, but in the absence of CEO, surely Chris Parkes has authority to sign documents, contracts, registrations, etc?

    Otherwise who completed the documentation of Kayal at the same time?


    I'd assume it's different paperwork for perms and loans... But I believe with all the evidence that I don't have... that this went to FA for international transfer clearance and is now with EFL to register.
    Do we need @paulie8290 to confirm?
  • Fumbluff said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Oggy Red said:
    i have a feeling its to do with the CAFC officer who signed off----are they infact seen by the FA as the  Exec who has authority to sign off etc.I don't think its a timing issue.
    Good point, but in the absence of CEO, surely Chris Parkes has authority to sign documents, contracts, registrations, etc?

    Otherwise who completed the documentation of Kayal at the same time?


    I'd assume it's different paperwork for perms and loans... But I believe with all the evidence that I don't have... that this went to FA for international transfer clearance and is now with EFL to register.
    Do we need @paulie8290 to confirm?
    Only if someone's getting the dye out.
  • transfer window slams shut at 5pm, better get a wriggle on ……….
  • Major said:
    Why the hell do I keep coming on here hoping there might be something genuinely informative.
    Rhetorical. No question mark.
    Hello Nigel.
  • RedChaser said:
    @Addickted stirring it as usual and damaging our club.

    If transfer fails, blame him.


    Name that ground? Not you Henners because you was there  ;)
    Accrington.
  • This is piss poor. 
    Are they really repensting all their clubs in a fair way?
    Absolutetly not.

    On Tomer Hemed’s transfer…

    “We’ve not heard anything back. Steve Gallen sent another e-mail across just yesterday asking for some sort of response. It’s been a week now, so I don’t know what’s taking so long. I’m guessing it’s what’s going on with Bury and Bolton at the moment. I guess all their focus is on that. 

    "It’s wrong because there are other clubs that are in the Football League as well and we’ve got a player that should be here playing with us and training with us and we’re getting no answer. All we can do is keep chasing.

    [Hemed] keeps texting Steve Gallen saying; ‘what’s happening have you heard anything?’ two or three times a day. We’re obviously pushing things our end but we’re getting no reply. It’s wrong, it’s a kids career and it’s two games now he’s missed where he could have been playing with us. It’s not good, I understand other clubs have got problems but we’re a part of the league as well so we should all be treated the same. 

    "We’re just hoping that they come back with the right decision. We haven’t given up hope, we just hope that they come to see that everything was done right our end."

  • Said yesterday what I'd do. Send them an email saying if we hadn't heard back by 5pm today then we assume all is good to go & he'd be playing on Saturday. End of. 
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