VAR and the offside rule is a fucking joke. 4 times this weekend they have given offside for millimetres if that, none should have been disallowed. its become a farce.
I guarantee 100 % Var goes to the big boys. Should Charlton ever get back to the premier league pray that Var is abolished. We will never get a single decision. Fuckin corrupt
Both decisions were correct by the letter of the law I’m afraid.
how was Lallana sticking out his arm to deflect the ball not given as hand ball .. as has been said above any other team and that 'goal' would have been disallowed
Both decisions were correct by the letter of the law I’m afraid.
how was Lallana sticking out his arm to deflect the ball not given as hand ball .. as has been said above any other team and that 'goal' would have been disallowed
The ball didn’t hit his arm, it hit his shoulder. That one was fine.
Its the next one that annoyed me, the Wolves players hand was the only part of him that was offside, he cannot score with his hand so how is he gaining an advantage if only that part of his body is ahead of the last defender?
Its not so much an issue with VAR but an issue with the offside rule as currently constituted which is aggravated by VAR highlighting how inadequate it is. People are misdirecting their anger towards VAR.
Both decisions were correct by the letter of the law I’m afraid.
Perhaps, but VAR is exposing how shit a rule it is. It's becoming impossible to be even with the defender. How the heck can the Wolves player know he's half a step in front?
There's an obvious 'umpire's call' way to settle this - a thick line across the pitch for both players' entire profiles - if attacker ahead but profiles overlapping stay with original decision, if defender ahead onside, if daylight offside. That fucking simple
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
Both decisions were correct by the letter of the law I’m afraid.
I have no problem with the first decision. But the second one was wrong. When it comes to being offside it should only be about legs and toes. Not about any other parts of our body. Now if me and you are standing level why should I be penalised because my penis protrudes a few inches more than yours
They have to draw the line somewhere where they can be consistent or we will go back to having inconsistent decisions where you could make a stronger argument for the better teams getting more decisions.
How far offside is acceptable? 10cm? 20? What if the player is now 21cm offside?
Both decisions were correct by the letter of the law I’m afraid.
I have no problem with the first decision. But the second one was wrong. When it comes to being offside it should only be about legs and toes. Not about any other parts of our body. Now if me and you are standing level why should I be penalised because my penis protrudes a few inches more than yours
The Wolves fella would still be offside if they changed it to legs and toes. It was his foot that was planted offside by less than an inch.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
As soon as they say they’re going to check it? When else would you?
There's an obvious 'umpire's call' way to settle this - a thick line across the pitch for both players' entire profiles - if attacker ahead but profiles overlapping stay with original decision, if defender ahead onside, if daylight offside. That fucking simple
What if the attackers thick line is a millimetre ahead of the defenders thick line? Should we give them offside? We’re back to the same conundrum no matter how you slice it.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
As soon as they say they’re going to check it? When else would you?
When play is stopped maybe? And why 30 seconds? That seems an arbitrary amount of time, what if the ref needs 30.5 seconds?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
As soon as they say they’re going to check it? When else would you?
When play is stopped maybe? And why 30 seconds? That seems an arbitrary amount of time, what if the ref needs 30.5 seconds?
Oh ffs Callum, stop being pedantic with every argument against VAR. Do you see no fault with it at all? Your defence of it every time is growing tiresome.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
As soon as they say they’re going to check it? When else would you?
When play is stopped maybe? And why 30 seconds? That seems an arbitrary amount of time, what if the ref needs 30.5 seconds?
Oh ffs Callum, stop being pedantic with every argument against VAR. Do you see no fault with it at all? Your defence of it every time is growing tiresome.
Not really - every question that I’m posing in response to everyone’s suggestions has to be thought about long and hard by IFAB. I know some of you are just here for a rant though so I suppose I won’t engage on this topic moving forward.
Bottom line is, it’s just a super computer giving us accurate information - people acting as if they think it’s just Dave making things up based off what he sees on his tele. Tens of thousands have been spent on the best technologies available in the 21st century.
People wanted correct decisions and this is the best way we have of getting them.
If you’re okay with dodgy lino decisions over what we have now then that’s fine but please don’t ever complain about a dodgy lino ever again.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It should be 30 secs max per check, and if you can’t make a decision in that 30 seconds then you stay with the on field decision.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
When do you propose they start the clock on the 30 second timer?
As soon as they say they’re going to check it? When else would you?
When play is stopped maybe? And why 30 seconds? That seems an arbitrary amount of time, what if the ref needs 30.5 seconds?
Oh ffs Callum, stop being pedantic with every argument against VAR. Do you see no fault with it at all? Your defence of it every time is growing tiresome.
Not really - every question that I’m posing in response to everyone’s suggestions has to be thought about long and hard by IFAB. I know some of you are just here for a rant though so I suppose I won’t engage on this topic moving forward.
Bottom line is, it’s just a super computer giving us accurate information - people acting as if they think it’s just Dave making things up based off what he sees on his tele. Tens of thousands have been spent on the best technologies available in the 21st century.
People wanted correct decisions and this is the best way we have of getting them.
If you’re okay with dodgy lino decisions over what we have now then that’s fine but please don’t ever complain about a dodgy lino ever again.
I am and I would still likely moan occasionally but not half as much as I do over VAR and I don't even watch PL footy.
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fuck off scouse twunts
Var goes to the big boys.
Should Charlton ever get back to the premier league pray that Var is abolished.
We will never get a single decision.
Fuckin corrupt
this is where using the monitor would help, the ref gives himself an out, otherwise it’s re referring from Stockley Park
Its the next one that annoyed me, the Wolves players hand was the only part of him that was offside, he cannot score with his hand so how is he gaining an advantage if only that part of his body is ahead of the last defender?
Its not so much an issue with VAR but an issue with the offside rule as currently constituted which is aggravated by VAR highlighting how inadequate it is. People are misdirecting their anger towards VAR.
As for the ridiculous offside calls this weekend and all season, that is because of the offside rule, which needs looking at big time.
But the second one was wrong.
When it comes to being offside it should only be about legs and toes.
Not about any other parts of our body.
Now if me and you are standing level why should I be penalised because my penis protrudes a few inches more than yours
How far offside is acceptable? 10cm? 20? What if the player is now 21cm offside?
I still hate Var.
If you’re okay with dodgy lino decisions over what we have now then that’s fine but please don’t ever complain about a dodgy lino ever again.