I see no difference between the racist abuse in Sofia and the chanting by our fans when chanting their incest song against fans from northern clubs - both are wrong
Wouldn’t fancy being out there after this ends would put good money on them heading toward the Away end!
Stay safe lads
Yes, getting back into town at midnight local time won't be pleasant, when Bulgaria have been stuffed on the pitch and things are at knife edge off the pitch
As someone on twitter said "I’ve been to that stadium, those lads in black will be off to the away end to ambush the England fans who have to walk through a badly lit park".
I see no difference between the racist abuse in Sofia and the chanting by our fans when chanting their incest song against fans from northern clubs - both are wrong
Really you can’t be serious. One is racism and disgusting the other is just not funny and cringe now.
England should just walk off. Fuck protocol, fuck the potential sanctions, fuck UEFA. Unless teams start taking their own action, nothing meaningful will ever be done.
Its a bit of an OTT reaction to Bulgaria tbh, there are many countries who have the same problem, including as some have suggested above,England,Scotland,etc.(maybe to a lesser degree, but it still sits under the surface in a lot of countries), but also to say they have zero chance of qualifying or providing a threat is clearly historically incorrect.
Ive got a couple of pals out there and have been getting more and more nervous for them over the last 2 days after hearing stories about Sofia. I just dont care about the result now i just want all the fans out there to be ok
HT break and ITV spend the whole time talking about the racist abuse and not showing highlights, not having a go at ITV but its just bad that that is what it has come to
Terrible as it is I personally believe walking off will achieve nothing but let them win. No amount of action like that can change a society, it takes time and we can’t be too arrogant about it ourselves really and pat ourselves in the back because we’re 20 years ahead of them.
Ram it back down their throats on the pitch. Best way.
I appreciate I don’t know what it’s like, but it is just verbal abuse. Rise above it and complain after the game, for yourself and your fans, who have spent thousands and travelled miles and will be in far more danger outside after than you will in the ground.
Personally i don't want them to walk off, although i'd obviously understand why. I'd prefer it if Southgate brings on Tomori, Abraham and Wilson and we win 8-0.
UEFA need to act tomorrow and kick Bulgaria out of their play off as punishment.
Terrible as it is I personally believe walking off will achieve nothing but let them win. No amount of action like that can change a society, it takes time and we can’t be too arrogant about it ourselves really and pat ourselves in the back because we’re 20 years ahead of them.
Ram it back down their throats on the pitch. Best way.
I appreciate I don’t know what it’s like, but it is just verbal abuse. Rise above it and complain after the game, for yourself and your fans, who have spent thousands and travelled miles and will be in far more danger outside after than you will in the ground.
I went in 2011 and nothings changed yet.
What you're saying obviously hasn't worked in the past - can't keep ignoring it.
I see no difference between the racist abuse in Sofia and the chanting by our fans when chanting their incest song against fans from northern clubs - both are wrong
You need to educate yourself then. Our song may be in very poor taste and offensive, but it isn't racist and our fans aren't making nazi salutes and monkey gestures and noises.
I ope we go on and stuff them Good and proper. I don't want to see us walk off, but if the players being targeted feel uncomfortable, we should definately do it, and it would be nice if FIFA stuck a couple of goals onto our score, before banning Bulgaria for a decade. All this nd the Bulgarians were moaning pre match about England officials worrying about the probable racism in Sofia. Given how this stuff works out, I don't doubt the Bulgarians Will blame Southgate for provoking it, though I'd love to be proved wrong,
Terrible as it is I personally believe walking off will achieve nothing but let them win. No amount of action like that can change a society, it takes time and we can’t be too arrogant about it ourselves really and pat ourselves in the back because we’re 20 years ahead of them.
Ram it back down their throats on the pitch. Best way.
I appreciate I don’t know what it’s like, but it is just verbal abuse. Rise above it and complain after the game, for yourself and your fans, who have spent thousands and travelled miles and will be in far more danger outside after than you will in the ground.
I went in 2011 and nothings changed yet.
What you're saying obviously hasn't worked in the past - can't keep ignoring it.
Of course, but fine them (properly) or disqualify them afterwards rather than abandon a game people have travelled to.
I think it just gives far too much power to a bunch of backward morons.
Also, fans got attacked there in 2011 and will do tonight, that should not be ignored either, but it will be.
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Thankfully we dont brush it under the carpet or try to deflect the issue on to the other team like what the Bulgarians have over the last few days
I say stick two or three more past them and then walk off after 75-80 minutes.
ups of what these arseholes are giving our players. Even nazi salutes being shown. Scum
I just dont care about the result now i just want all the fans out there to be ok
Ram it back down their throats on the pitch. Best way.
I appreciate I don’t know what it’s like, but it is just verbal abuse. Rise above it and complain after the game, for yourself and your fans, who have spent thousands and travelled miles and will be in far more danger outside after than you will in the ground.
I went in 2011 and nothings changed yet.
UEFA need to act tomorrow and kick Bulgaria out of their play off as punishment.
Our song may be in very poor taste and offensive, but it isn't racist and our fans aren't making nazi salutes and monkey gestures and noises.
I think it just gives far too much power to a bunch of backward morons.
Also, fans got attacked there in 2011 and will do tonight, that should not be ignored either, but it will be.