Wow. Exit poll suggest a massive Tory majority of 86.
Ha ha ha ha
Glad you find it funny. You're alright Jack.
I'm laughing at all the remainers who campaigned, stalled & downright wanted to cancel Brexit. Dont fuck with democracy or it will come back & bite you the arse. If we had left as planned on 23rd March I'm pretty sure that The Conservatives wouldn't have got back into power......due to austerity & everything else.
As I said.....only yourselves to blame.
Financial adviser supporting Brexit, I feel for your clients.
Judging by the FTSE this morning they don't necessarily share your concerns
A sad reflection on the intellect of the British electorate and one of the saddest days in the modern history of this country.
Everyone has their view, but the British people are not stupid. I have always said that with Corbyn as leader and McDonnell as shadow chancellor Labour were unelectable. This result proves it. Until Labour get their act together and move back to the centre they will continue to be.
FTSE rising and the pound rising at the same time (due to many earnings happening in dollars, there is often an inverse relationship) shows how positively this is regarded.
You said you were going to spoil your ballot because everybody is useless, and only voted Tory at the very last second because you're a coward (your words). Quite strange to see you really owning this result...
I am not owning the results! Just providing my usual balanced commentary! I am sure we have people on here that can provide an alternative interpretation of a rise in the stock market and the pound.
I won't pretend I'm not incredibly happy that Labour lost though. I am incredibly happy at that, yes. Like I said, if Labour got in and I didn't at least register my vote as Conservative I would feel incredibly guilty to know I would be a part of the chaos to come.
SNP, 2018: "We will do whatever it takes to block Brexit and fight for the people of Scotland, we do not recognise the referendum result. All very un-democratic.
SNP, 2019: "We will do whatever it takes to block Brexit and fight for the people of Scotland, we will lock Boris out of number 10. All very un-democratic.
SNP, 13/12/19: We hope that Mr Johnson and his cabinet take note of what the people of Scotland want and do the democratic thing. All of a sudden they want democracy.
I recently spoke to a young lady who has just started her first job after gaining a Masters degree. She told me that she didn't realise that you don't actually vote for the party leader. What on earth are they teaching students in our universities, it seems they know nothing of real life.
A sad reflection on the intellect of the British electorate and one of the saddest days in the modern history of this country.
Everyone has their view, but the British people are not stupid. I have always said that with Corbyn as leader and McDonnell as shadow chancellor Labour were unelectable. This result proves it. Until Labour get their act together and move back to the centre they will continue to be.
I've moved on and I'm already looking forward to the £350m extra a week that the NHS will benefit from once Brexit is done.
Kensington was super close in 2017, Dent Coad is an idiot, and Sam Gyimah massively increased the Lib Dem vote, so if you were a remainy Tory or sensible Labour you had a decent high profile candidate
A majority means things can get done on the domestic agenda. I know of multiple pieces of legislation (and I'm sure it's the same across all areas of government) which have been on hold since 2016 as no one was willing to take anything to parliament with the maths as it was. They were scared of opening up wider debates. Hopefully we can now start having proper debate about genuine domestic issues.
Boris tone seems sensible this morning. All the talk from the tories this morning is about taking the moddle ground. Now he has a majority he may well be able to move into the centre ground. IF he does that's a good thing. He's talked about NHS, environment and social care. He has to follow through but some sensible noises being made.
Proposed spending levels when taken in the context of history and not compared to Corbyns are pretty high. It won't be 5 years of austerity. It may not be enough but it won't be what we have seen.
Hopefully now we see a credible centre left labour opposition come through which people can identify with and can bring the working classes behind them. And have a credible economic plan.
A sad reflection on the intellect of the British electorate and one of the saddest days in the modern history of this country.
I would say intellect has won here as Corbyn & Abbott have been banished to the wilderness.
What amazed me is that 39,972 people voted for Abbott and she won her seat by a landslide
It's not that amazing when you look at the demographic, I suspect the Black & Ethnic Minority sectors outnumber the White British sectors in those areas now so the vote will go that way. You could pick a number of areas that reflect the same, take a look at Bradford.
For some people one of the positives is a feeling they can be more openly racist and foreigner hating so there is that. Keeping it bottled up must be so frustrating.
Thankfully the result hasn't been as disastrous as first feared. The Tories will still have a decent majority but it's not so large that it'll be impossible to overturn in five years. I thought we were looking at 2029 before the opposition had a shot.
Time to get a new face in and take the progressive campaign in a different direction. The road to 2024 starts here.
I just want parties with realistic policies and proper leaders for the next Election. The options were all so, so poor.
Labour may need til 2029 to wash away the stain of Corbyn and co.
I look forward to seeing how they transforms from here.
Labour’s manifesto pledges were not radical. The majority of them would have brought us in line with other successful European countries.
The “cult” of Corbyn and Brexit have contributed to the defeat sure but these policies are actually quite popular if you isolate them from the man.
I don't think any single one of the policies were 'radical', taken on their own, but bundled into a massive manifesto together, and sold to a country that has been told it has to be austere, it certainly came across that way.
I find it impossible to disagree with this. There were simply too many things in the Labour manifesto that simply would have forced much higher taxes not only to medium and high earners, but low earners too. We'd all have "free" this and that but all of us that work to earn our money would be footing the bill and have lower income as a result.
Personally I'd be willing to sacrifice a small amount each year so that it benefits those more needy than myself but then perhaps that's the difference between myself and the majority in the country we now live in. We live in a selfish time where people only look out for themselves.
One thing that has intrigued me is that during the whole Brexit issue and what the deal looks like is leavers constantly pointed to Scandinavia and how they do well outside. But what about the high taxation there? That is conveniently ignored during this election when it came to Labour's proposals.
We already sacrifice for those more needy via tax / benefits
If that's the case then it must be gross mismanagement of those taxes to lead us to the state many find themselves in today.
There is no evidence as to what wing University students in Canterbury occupy. Maybe it will emerge. I imagine Canterbury will undergo change because of the congestion to come on local roads due to the problems 'leave' causes at the ports.
A sad reflection on the intellect of the British electorate and one of the saddest days in the modern history of this country.
I would say intellect has won here as Corbyn & Abbott have been banished to the wilderness.
What amazed me is that 39,972 people voted for Abbott and she won her seat by a landslide
It's not that amazing when you look at the demographic, I suspect the Black & Ethnic Minority sectors outnumber the White British sectors in those areas now so the vote will go that way. You could pick a number of areas that reflect the same, take a look at Bradford.
Muslim areas tend to vote as a block and Labour has been their party of choice traditionally.
A sad reflection on the intellect of the British electorate and one of the saddest days in the modern history of this country.
I would say intellect has won here as Corbyn & Abbott have been banished to the wilderness.
What amazed me is that 39,972 people voted for Abbott and she won her seat by a landslide
It's not that amazing when you look at the demographic, I suspect the Black & Ethnic Minority sectors outnumber the White British sectors in those areas now so the vote will go that way. You could pick a number of areas that reflect the same, take a look at Bradford.
Muslim areas tend to vote as a block and Labour has been their party of choice traditionally.
There is no evidence as to what wing University students in Canterbury occupy. Maybe it will emerge. I imagine Canterbury will undergo change because of the congestion to come on local roads due to the problems 'leave' causes at the ports.
I was at the uni there in 2017 when it surprised everyone and a "miracle" happened in canturbury going red.
I can tell you the uni massively pushed voting labour. There were all sorts of speeches and campaigns. In particular a campaign to end the usual practice of voting at your home constituency and to vote as a block of students in Canterbury.
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SNP, 2018: "We will do whatever it takes to block Brexit and fight for the people of Scotland, we do not recognise the referendum result. All very un-democratic.
SNP, 2019: "We will do whatever it takes to block Brexit and fight for the people of Scotland, we will lock Boris out of number 10. All very un-democratic.
SNP, 13/12/19: We hope that Mr Johnson and his cabinet take note of what the people of Scotland want and do the democratic thing. All of a sudden they want democracy.
Two faced and laughable.
A majority means things can get done on the domestic agenda. I know of multiple pieces of legislation (and I'm sure it's the same across all areas of government) which have been on hold since 2016 as no one was willing to take anything to parliament with the maths as it was. They were scared of opening up wider debates. Hopefully we can now start having proper debate about genuine domestic issues.
Boris tone seems sensible this morning. All the talk from the tories this morning is about taking the moddle ground. Now he has a majority he may well be able to move into the centre ground. IF he does that's a good thing. He's talked about NHS, environment and social care. He has to follow through but some sensible noises being made.
Proposed spending levels when taken in the context of history and not compared to Corbyns are pretty high. It won't be 5 years of austerity. It may not be enough but it won't be what we have seen.
Hopefully now we see a credible centre left labour opposition come through which people can identify with and can bring the working classes behind them. And have a credible economic plan.
Keeping it bottled up must be so frustrating.
I know Canterbury has a larger amount of Students than those areas but you've still got both Greenwich and Christchurch Uni's
Maybe it will emerge.
I imagine Canterbury will undergo change because of the congestion to come on local roads due to the problems 'leave' causes at the ports.
Suits you.
I can tell you the uni massively pushed voting labour. There were all sorts of speeches and campaigns. In particular a campaign to end the usual practice of voting at your home constituency and to vote as a block of students in Canterbury.