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Is the season going to finish? (ed. Pg.53 - 3 players not returned to training)
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Are they?DamoNorthStand said:
Thinking more Norwich in the Prem... I assume we are mirroring their rules.MuttleyCAFC said:
Who is dead and buried in the Championship?DamoNorthStand said:Void isn’t an option. You can’t have teams who (in some cases) are dead and buried squirming out of relegation.
Next season is gonna be compromised already so just finish this one whenever is safe to do so.
Speaking honestly when we consider all going on at the club and how we were playing before the break, there’s every chance we are heading down, but at least it’s on the pitch.
They're only six points behind and have Southampton | Everton | Brighton | West Ham | Burnley at home whilst they've got Watford away
Get good results in those games and their away games @ Arsenal | Chelsea | Man City wont matter2 -
Have the Premier League announced what will happen if the season can't finish?0
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There were 11 relegation places this season from Prem to league 2.
Only 2 out of the 11 you can say have a team dead and buried, Bolton and Southend.
How is it fair that the other 9 slots are just filled as you say @DamoNorthStand you cant have a team dead and burried squim there way out but what about those 9 thats weren't dead and burried, its not fair on them who had the games and chances to survive.3 -
I really wish the club was in a position off the pitch for me to really be upset by this decision from the EFL.
As it stands, we are such a mess that id do hand stands to watch us play a derby against Sporting Club Thamesmead if it meant we still had a club to support
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shine166 said:
Surely we can win 4 more games than the 3 shitest teams in that league, we'll find ourselves in league one anyway in 2021 with-12 in the championship amd by far the worst budget.ElfsborgAddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:League One next year, -12 points, Youngsters and a real chance that Bowyer will be gone. It could still be worse.
Then a further relegation next season.
Get off to a bad start then it's curtains in no time, just ask Bolton fans.
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If we have learned one thing this season, it's this: differences of opinion in football can be simply and agreeably sorted out, thanks to one, new, infallible addition to the football world that has put doubt and uncertainty behind us, fully and forever.
So, let's get VAR to decide.5 -
I haven't read the last 400 posts but.....
The reason the EFL has been forced into this situation is they have put pressure on the premier league to ensure there is relegation into the championship. They can't insist on relegation into their league then not have it in thier league.
The EFL don't want Leeds, WBA and Fulham potentially replaced with Rotherham, Coventry and Oxford.
The whole thing may still play out differently because I honestly can't see all 71 clubs staying afloat anyway.
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Chizz said:If we have learned one thing this season, it's this: differences of opinion in football can be simply and agreeably sorted out, thanks to one, new, infallible addition to the football world that has put doubt and uncertainty behind us, fully and forever.
So, let's get VAR to decide.
Wonder what the table would look like if offside goals and bad penalty decisions didn't happen.1 -
Well it is for the Dutch.DamoNorthStand said:Void isn’t an option. You can’t have teams who (in some cases) are dead and buried squirming out of relegation.
Next season is gonna be compromised already so just finish this one whenever is safe to do so.
Speaking honestly when we consider all going on at the club and how we were playing before the break, there’s every chance we are heading down, but at least it’s on the pitch.10 -
Balls to the EFL.3
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If it goes to a vote with a 51% majority, I'd say we're doomed.
Teams with nothing to play for and majority of teams in the play offs will vote to end the season. Any teams within any chance of relegation will vote to end the season.
Only teams who will want to play on are teams in the relegation zone or teams with a chance of promotion or play off place which is a minority
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If L1 finishes as it is (with PPG), Wycombe, Oxford, Pompey and Fleetwood will contest the playoffs with Posh, Sunderland, Doncaster and Ipswich missing out
L1 would be a really tough division next year
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Exactly how I feel although with club football. Id find it very hard to give up on charlton but I’d just end up spending my money on following England. At least international football has a decent governing body. Oh....Croydon said:This is a sickener. I think I'd really struggle to continue with football if we get relegated off the back of this.0 -
So if Charlton are "unjustly" relegated some of our fans will stop supporting Charlton?1
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Preston would vote to continue. Peter Ridsdale made it clear a while ago that's what he wanted for Preston it was put on Sky Sports News at the time.paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs1 -
Would you say that if you was a Leeds fan? Not a pop... genuine questionElfsborgAddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:No, they should finish the season or void the season.
This is the only fairest way. Anything else is a nonsense.0 -
No not at all. Just my faith in English league football would waiver massively. Why should I emotionally attach myself to something that simply isn’t fair. I can handle charlton being shit, letting in crap goals, getting home at 1am on a weeknight after a wanky performance up north, but being unjustifiably cheated is hard to take.Covered End said:So if Charlton are "unjustly" relegated some of our fans will stop supporting Charlton?18 -
I'm very sorry, but you just don't understand football. It doesn't matter if 90,000 fans can't attend a game, or even 2,000. The only thing that matters is that people are able to watch football on TV.golfaddick said:
Are the play-offs going to be played behind closed doors. A 90,000 seat Wembley absolutely empty. That will be fun for the watching masses.MuttleyCAFC said:
That is why the league has included the play offs. 3 teams not secure in them would vote to end the season and one team with a chance of automatic would vote to continue. If they decided to promote the top three, one team would want to end the season a three would not changing the outcome of a vote totally.paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs
I wonder why the EFL have kept it vague as to what would happen if the play offs could not be played! I would imagine that it would not be too hard to prove in a court of law that the vote has been manipulated out of vested interest and has ignored merit. The question is whether fairness is a legal principle.7 -
This is my point.... I don’t care what anyone says, if we were 5 points clear at the top, this board would NOT be screaming for no promotion or relegation.MillwallFan said:
Would you say that if you was a Leeds fan? Not a pop... genuine questionElfsborgAddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:No, they should finish the season or void the season.
This is the only fairest way. Anything else is a nonsense.
Even with the bigger scenario at play - lets just be honest our response is being influenced with self preservation in mind.
I don’t want to go down on a technicality. I don’t want to stay up on a technicality.
i want to play whenever it is safe - and settle our fate on pitch as it should be8 -
PragueAddick said:
Well it is for the Dutch.DamoNorthStand said:Void isn’t an option. You can’t have teams who (in some cases) are dead and buried squirming out of relegation.
Next season is gonna be compromised already so just finish this one whenever is safe to do so.
Speaking honestly when we consider all going on at the club and how we were playing before the break, there’s every chance we are heading down, but at least it’s on the pitch.
https://youtu.be/HnzH15hwt48?t=103
Uh skip to 1:43, for some reason it isn't doing that0 - Sponsored links:
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The easiest way to not having Rotherham, Coventry & Oxford replacing WBA, Leeds & Fulham is to void the season.Cafc43v3r said:I haven't read the last 400 posts but.....
The reason the EFL has been forced into this situation is they have put pressure on the premier league to ensure there is relegation into the championship. They can't insist on relegation into their league then not have it in thier league.
The EFL don't want Leeds, WBA and Fulham potentially replaced with Rotherham, Coventry and Oxford.
The whole thing may still play out differently because I honestly can't see all 71 clubs staying afloat anyway.
Simples.1 -
That then makes it 12-12. Only need one more club to change their vote.MartinCAFC said:
Preston would vote to continue. Peter Ridsdale made it clear a while ago that's what he wanted for Preston it was put on Sky Sports News at the time.paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs
Where is Peter Fonda when you need him.......0 -
I've got the answer - coin toss.
Hear me out.
The remaining matches to be played are decided by two tosses of the coin. If one team wins both tosses then they win and get the three points. If the teams win one toss each it's a draw and a point each.
Some big wig at the EFL would be in charge of the coin toss (the chief tosser) and he would have a couple of deputy tossers alongside him to ensure fair play.
They could offer it to Sky and BT Sports to bid for the broadcast rights and they could have a whole couple of hours build up to each toss-off, maybe even on pay-per-view, with ex-tossers giving expert analysis on how they think the toss will go and how everything is different now from their day. There could then be a post-toss-off analysis with action replays of all the key moments and a debate about whether VAR was used properly.
They could televise a whole round of tosses a day, culminating excitingly in one big play-off toss-off on 30th June, before all the players contracts expire and the world ends. Toss-off Tuesday.
I reckon I'm onto a winner here. Anyone got Rick Parry's number? Better still, I see there's a Bazalgette on the EFL board. His family are experts at both pumping out shit (Sir Joseph - London's sewers) and sending it into our homes (Sir Peter - Big Brother).
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A while ago, was that when people were still talking about null and void being an option.MartinCAFC said:
Preston would vote to continue. Peter Ridsdale made it clear a while ago that's what he wanted for Preston it was put on Sky Sports News at the time.paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs
Preston are 14 points behind 2nd so wont get automatic and are only 3 points above 11th, if the season resumes there is a possibility they may miss out on playoffs, if the season ends and standings are taken as they are then they are in play offs.
There is absolutely no way Preston are voting to continue0 -
The Chanponship will vote to play - because like the PL they want the TV money. Whether they’ll actually get to play to a finish is another matter.MartinCAFC said:
Preston would vote to continue. Peter Ridsdale made it clear a while ago that's what he wanted for Preston it was put on Sky Sports News at the time.paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs2 -
People seem to be talking as if this is done and dusted and we are down. It is far from that.
Today's announcement is hardly groundbreaking. The EFL had to publish a way of finishing if curtailment happened. FA had already said no to null and void. PPG was the only option.
The majority of clubs have indicated they want to play on. Paulie's list seems sensible on the basis of just league position and self-interest. But as Airman says - even those with an outside chance of playoffs will vote to play. That's 7th all the way down to 16th. Plus potentially teams in the playoffs who hope to have a chance of automatics such as Preston.
Even Leeds and Middlesbrough, who you would think would vote to end the season now, no-brainer, have said they want to play until the end. There is some integrity left between clubs, even if not from the EFL themselves.
The show will go on.0 -
It's too much ... How many times can one source cause you pain...
F*** ...
It's so hard to take.
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I’m with Damo, finish the season whenever possible, yes squads could be very very different but it’ll be the same potential for each club to have change or not and the 37 games won’t be wasted the shittier clubs will go down and better clubs up .DamoNorthStand said:
This is my point.... I don’t care what anyone says, if we were 5 points clear at the top, this board would NOT be screaming for no promotion or relegation.MillwallFan said:
Would you say that if you was a Leeds fan? Not a pop... genuine questionElfsborgAddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:No, they should finish the season or void the season.
This is the only fairest way. Anything else is a nonsense.
Even with the bigger scenario at play - lets just be honest our response is being influenced with self preservation in mind.
I don’t want to go down on a technicality. I don’t want to stay up on a technicality.
i want to play whenever it is safe - and settle our fate on pitch as it should be
No way would everyone be crying for void the season if near the top .
We are shit and will prolly go down whatever happens .6 -
Yes.MillwallFan said:
Would you say that if you was a Leeds fan? Not a pop... genuine questionElfsborgAddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:No, they should finish the season or void the season.
This is the only fairest way. Anything else is a nonsense.
I did not take it as a pop as you must be upset that you will be 6 points worse off next season!3 -
Why would Sheffield Wednesday vote to the end the season?paulie8290 said:How do you think teams would vote
I reckon
Vote to end season
Leeds
West Brom
Brentford
Forest
Preston
Reading
Wednesday
Birmingham
Stoke
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Wigan
Hull
Vote to contine
Fulham
Bristol City
Millwall
Cardiff
Blackburn
Swansea
Derby
QPR
Charlton
Luton
Barnsley
That makes it 13-11 to ending the season now
The 3 mid table teams are playing for nothing, so why pay money for testig.
Brentford are not chasing the top 3 so may as well settle for play offs
With a hefty points deduction hanging over them (if it ever gets sorted) wouldn't they want to play on and ensure they finish a good 15-20 points clear of the bottom 3?
If the season ends and their deduction is 10 or more then they're relegated.2
