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Is Lockdown easing gradually?

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  • My fear for the pub sector is July August people will be inclined to host at home people have spent 2 months working on gardens etc and getting furniture and it’s also a lot cheaper - I hope all the pubs survive but do fear after a couple of weeks the novelty will wear off. 

    I was the old kings head at London Bridge last Friday v well set up 1 window for ordering the 2nd for collection but £4,50 for a flat pint of carling to stand in an alleyway can’t help thinking I would be enjoying a lager at home more. 
    To be fair a pint of lager in a pub IS more or less the same as a cold one from home, but the same doesn't apply to say Real Ale. Which explains why pubs like the River Ale House have traded doing takeaway beer during this period

    I agree though that there is a barrier to returning to the pub. As a household, why leave your safe house to go into a pub potentially increasing your chance of catching the virus, and paying more for the pleasure? I suspect that young single people meeting up with their mates will be the main pub users at first
  • Young people (mainly) have to interact. Sooner or later they will (mainly) want to find partners to shag (mainly).
    It's the way the world works.
  • In as much as people have been trying their hardest to isolate and stay in lockdown, you cannot expect many millennia of social behaviour to be able to change over 3 months.  I think there will be an attempted change to accommodate some sort of social distancing, but I don’t believe there will be a ‘new normal’.  Behaviours don’t change like that imo 
  • I was sat in my pub this morning marvelling at the work we’ve done this past 3 months & how ready we are for opening , no stone unturned & very confident that we have taken every measure possible , this pub is very very safe!! I’ve gone overkill to try & raise customers confidence, we have our own track & trace system , table app ordering , Ulv disinfectant fogging machine’s, forehead temp checks & changing every system we previously had in place , what could possibly go wrong...............
    I should probably know this but which is your pub mate? I reckon we should all come down and give your trade a boost (appropriately distanced of course)
    I’m in Buckingham m8 so a bit far unless a CL beano to the Grand Prix or MK Dons at a push but 100% a free beer for anyone that ever comes in with a charlton shirt on! If your ever in the area keep your eyes peeled I’m the only one in Buckingham with charlton memorabilia in it but it’s very subtle 
    Once you're open again, don't forget to add yourself to the Marketplace Services directory, so those of us who happen to be in the area can look you up.
  • cabbles said:
    In as much as people have been trying their hardest to isolate and stay in lockdown, you cannot expect many millennia of social behaviour to be able to change over 3 months.  I think there will be an attempted change to accommodate some sort of social distancing, but I don’t believe there will be a ‘new normal’.  Behaviours don’t change like that imo 
    Agree. Things will eventually go back to the 'old' normal. Pubs, Theatres, Nightclubs etc will be rammed like they used to.

    I also think people will still travel for business for face to face meets. You could zoom someone pre lockdown yet you still had business trips going from one part of the world to another.

    You could have a cheap beer in your garden pre lockdown yet the pubs were still full.

    The old normal will be back one day.
  • i also think people will after the initial rush seriously look at there spending habbits, i agree much easier to have a beer in garden during summer but winter are people really going to want the faff of going to a pub - i probably wont. 
  • My fear for the pub sector is July August people will be inclined to host at home people have spent 2 months working on gardens etc and getting furniture and it’s also a lot cheaper - I hope all the pubs survive but do fear after a couple of weeks the novelty will wear off. 

    I was the old kings head at London Bridge last Friday v well set up 1 window for ordering the 2nd for collection but £4,50 for a flat pint of carling to stand in an alleyway can’t help thinking I would be enjoying a lager at home more. 
    To be fair a pint of lager in a pub IS more or less the same as a cold one from home, but the same doesn't apply to say Real Ale. Which explains why pubs like the River Ale House have traded doing takeaway beer during this period

    I agree though that there is a barrier to returning to the pub. As a household, why leave your safe house to go into a pub potentially increasing your chance of catching the virus, and paying more for the pleasure? I suspect that young single people meeting up with their mates will be the main pub users at first
    of course your ales are not the same in takeaway forms but thats a very small sector. 
  • My fear for the pub sector is July August people will be inclined to host at home people have spent 2 months working on gardens etc and getting furniture and it’s also a lot cheaper - I hope all the pubs survive but do fear after a couple of weeks the novelty will wear off. 

    I was the old kings head at London Bridge last Friday v well set up 1 window for ordering the 2nd for collection but £4,50 for a flat pint of carling to stand in an alleyway can’t help thinking I would be enjoying a lager at home more. 
    My thoughts exactly. 
    Same applies for a lot of barber shops. 
    Thousands of hair clipper sold during lockdown. 
    I wonder how many will continue to trim their own hair.

    Something For The Weekend Sir
  • Leg of lamb please.
  • i also think people will after the initial rush seriously look at there spending habbits, i agree much easier to have a beer in garden during summer but winter are people really going to want the faff of going to a pub - i probably wont. 
    Too many leaves on the ground in autumn, absolute health hazard and in spring you run the risk of being tripped up by a new born lamb en route to the boozer. No thank you sir, there are no seasons for the pub anymore. 
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  • I'm desperate for some sort of relaxation of lockdown again so I can be with my girlfriend, as i sit in a group that seems to be a loophole. We both currently live in our parents houses due to old relationships falling apart, and are saving in order to move in together by September. But no physical contact since March is tortuous! We're in our 40's so hardly irresponsible teenagers, but as we aren't in the lonely category (as we have elderly parents to cuddle!?) we arent allowed to be within 2 metres still. And yes, we have adhered to this as both NHS workers.

    Please Boris, give me my life back! 
  • Can we see updates from parliament as they happen, or need to wait until 5 ?
  • I think I will be less likely to go shopping and to visit a restaurant or pub now. I do not trust everyone to observe a 1 metre distance from each other. So many didn't observe 2 metres and a lot will think that it is no longer necessary to keep away from other people.
    Agreed
  • I think I will be less likely to go shopping and to visit a restaurant or pub now. I do not trust everyone to observe a 1 metre distance from each other. So many didn't observe 2 metres and a lot will think that it is no longer necessary to keep away from other people.
    I totally understand what you mean, however enough people must have observed the rules before for the virus to be circulating around at the levels it is now. 

    To be honest I think I would be more likely to visit a restaurant and pub then I would be the shops as, if managed correctly, it will be much easier to maintain social distance in an environment where most patrons will remain seated for their stay.  
  • so i can go and sit in a pub 1m apart from other people, cinema etc

    but i cant have my mum and sister over and sit in the garden - you can see why people do get a little pissed off. 

    most are doing what they like now anyway as a lot have 0 respect for the carry on of a lockdown we have been having. 
  • so i can go and sit in a pub 1m apart from other people, cinema etc

    but i cant have my mum and sister over and sit in the garden - you can see why people do get a little pissed off. 

    most are doing what they like now anyway as a lot have 0 respect for the carry on of a lockdown we have been having. 
    I have to admit I’m really confused what the rules are, I thought you could have people from one other household round? 
  • se9addick said:
    so i can go and sit in a pub 1m apart from other people, cinema etc

    but i cant have my mum and sister over and sit in the garden - you can see why people do get a little pissed off. 

    most are doing what they like now anyway as a lot have 0 respect for the carry on of a lockdown we have been having. 
    I have to admit I’m really confused what the rules are, I thought you could have people from one other household round? 
    one other house, but if you don't live with mum or sister. 

    a bit like parents having to choose a child to visit. 

    where as a pub you could potentially mix with 100s of other households and no issue. 


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    se9addick said:
    so i can go and sit in a pub 1m apart from other people, cinema etc

    but i cant have my mum and sister over and sit in the garden - you can see why people do get a little pissed off. 

    most are doing what they like now anyway as a lot have 0 respect for the carry on of a lockdown we have been having. 
    I have to admit I’m really confused what the rules are, I thought you could have people from one other household round? 
    one other house, but if you don't live with mum or sister. 

    a bit like parents having to choose a child to visit. 

    where as a pub you could potentially mix with 100s of other households and no issue. 


    I thought the news today was more specifically about meeting indoors, for a couple of weeks now groups of <=6 people are able to meet people outside, including garden. With social distancing.
  • I think after today from the 4th July I am in the clear! 
  • I think after today from the 4th July I am in the clear! 
    Yep u should b in the clear now , might be best to “relieve” some of that pent up “frustration” before the 1st meet with her though
  • I think after today from the 4th July I am in the clear! 
    Impressed that you can bridge the 1 metre gap
  • I feel so sorry for the little cafes who can at a stretch move tables around but buying in perspex screens or the like will be so difficult just to stay open. It's fine for the Costas who have multi national owners but these new rules today could see the end of the independent cafes. A great shame especially as Costa coffee is absolute swill. 
  • se9addick said:
    so i can go and sit in a pub 1m apart from other people, cinema etc

    but i cant have my mum and sister over and sit in the garden - you can see why people do get a little pissed off. 

    most are doing what they like now anyway as a lot have 0 respect for the carry on of a lockdown we have been having. 
    I have to admit I’m really confused what the rules are, I thought you could have people from one other household round? 
    one other house, but if you don't live with mum or sister. 

    a bit like parents having to choose a child to visit. 

    where as a pub you could potentially mix with 100s of other households and no issue. 


    Yeah it’s weird, I guess these are unprecedented time’s and, as we move out of lockdown, there will be some contradictions in what is and isn’t permitted. 
  • I give up. So I can go in but not touch her? Ffs. Yet, and I only jest, if her single dad drops dead in the front room she suddenly becomes a lonely vulnerable person and I can fill my boots? Think I might take a hammer with me....
  • I'm desperate for some sort of relaxation of lockdown again so I can be with my girlfriend, as i sit in a group that seems to be a loophole. We both currently live in our parents houses due to old relationships falling apart, and are saving in order to move in together by September. But no physical contact since March is tortuous! We're in our 40's so hardly irresponsible teenagers, but as we aren't in the lonely category (as we have elderly parents to cuddle!?) we arent allowed to be within 2 metres still. And yes, we have adhered to this as both NHS workers.

    Please Boris, give me my life back! 
    I wouldn't contact Boris if I were you, he'd probably be after your girlfriend!
  • Always the risk with pubs and restaurants that whatever arrangements are put  place will all go out the window when people get three or four beers inside them. 
    But then you choose the place that reflects what sort of evening you want

    The quiet oldies pub or the chic French restaurant are likely to be far less risky than say Yates at midnight
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