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No Vaccination Novak Djokovic

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  • edited January 2022
    No - he changed his profile after I called him out by looking at his first post on the forum about how he encountered a poltergeist (!!), and he then went in and blocked people looking at his previous posts - clearly a WUM
    Think its strange how you can't address my points without looking at a previous post on a poltergiest thread, I didn't say I encountered a poltergiest, just that I believe the phenomena exists and are often exaggerated by people after they experience them, sorry for sharing an experience and being open minded, which was the purpose of the thread. English comprehension skills aren't great on this forum.

    Strange that you checked my profile tbh. Why not just address what I have said here and now?


    Because when someone seems to have a hidden agenda their profile and previous interactions can often be an indicator of whether that is likely to be the case.

    As it is, having fact checked a couple of your primary sources and found them to be bogus it seems that your strategy as so often with intentional misinformers is to overload anyone who may challenge them with false "information" - usually stuff that has been posted in bulk all over social media, and challenge them to rebut each nonsensical issue.  It is a waste of time.  So far so Trump.

  • So where is all this Government control leading Franky - I think we deserve to know.
    It's very strange that it's happening across the world at the same time - who is orchestrating it? Who can we trust?

    Your sarcasm isn't worth any more responses, I will no longer respond on this thread. I would suggest you look at how chinese society operates, to see where our own is headed, it's happening under your noses but keep mocking me, you agree with vaccine passports, and mandatory vaccines, reduced public ''privileges'' for one of the least threatening virus outbreaks in the history of humanity, you're already beyond realizing any truth, you can't address any point I've made without being arrogant and sarcastic. Good luck.
  • Gribbo said:
    Think it's dangerous ground, trying to censor people. 
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  • So where is all this Government control leading Franky - I think we deserve to know.
    It's very strange that it's happening across the world at the same time - who is orchestrating it? Who can we trust?

    Your sarcasm isn't worth any more responses, I will no longer respond on this thread. I would suggest you look at how chinese society operates, to see where our own is headed, it's happening under your noses but keep mocking me, you agree with vaccine passports, and mandatory vaccines, reduced public ''privileges'' for one of the least threatening virus outbreaks in the history of humanity, you're already beyond realizing any truth, you can't address any point I've made without being arrogant and sarcastic. Good luck.
    To be clear, I disagree with vaccine passports, mandatory vaccinations and reduced public "privileges", but I recognise a global pandemic when I see one and worry at the number of people who can clearly string a sentence together getting sucked into such nonsense...
  • I never realized what a complete mook he was 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59897918 
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  • I never realized what a complete mook he was 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59897918 
    Maybe opponents should claim that the ball was out even if all the visible evidence says that the ball was in...
  • MrOneLung said:
    Chizz said:
    I have very little sympathy for Djokavic, but a lot for Natalia Vikhlyantseva, the Russian player who, despite being double-jabbed, had not been able to compete, because the vaccine is not included in the list of accepted vaccines. 


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/russian-tennis-player-to-skip-australian-open-over-sputnik-vaccine-20211221-p59j7j.html 
    I believe if you have had the Sputnik vaccine you can play on the satellite tour.
    That's ace
  • MrOneLung said:
    Chizz said:
    I have very little sympathy for Djokavic, but a lot for Natalia Vikhlyantseva, the Russian player who, despite being double-jabbed, had not been able to compete, because the vaccine is not included in the list of accepted vaccines. 


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/russian-tennis-player-to-skip-australian-open-over-sputnik-vaccine-20211221-p59j7j.html 
    I believe if you have had the Sputnik vaccine you can play on the satellite tour.
    That pun is genuinely out of this world. 
  • Novak Djokovic is a fantastic tennis player.
    Possibly will be the best ever on longevity and titles in the men's game ?

    Always important to mention that because if he was the world number 200 this would not be front and back page news all over the World.

    As a believer in Vaccines I have struggled to understand his point of view but I don't think he's a crackpot for his beliefs any more than folk who put their hands together to pray despite that being a futile habit as well.
  • What is the medical exemption based on ? Do we know ?
  • Novak Djokovic is a fantastic tennis player.
    Possibly will be the best ever on longevity and titles in the men's game ?

    Always important to mention that because if he was the world number 200 this would not be front and back page news all over the World.

    As a believer in Vaccines I have struggled to understand his point of view but I don't think he's a crackpot for his beliefs any more than folk who put their hands together to pray despite that being a futile habit as well.
    Prayer in itself does not harm anyone. Bring unvaccinated potentially does. Not a fair comparison really. 
  • edited January 2022
    What is the medical exemption based on ? Do we know ?
    It's come out recently that he applied for an exemption on the basis of having recently contracted COVID-19. However he was unable to provide sufficient evidence.

    I believe the Australian authorities deem "recent" to be in the last six months. Djokovic had COVID in June. I wasn't able to find any more recent instances.
  • edited January 2022
    What is the medical exemption based on ? Do we know ?
    It's come out recently that he applied for an exemption on the basis of having recently contracted COVID-19. However he was unable to provide sufficient evidence.

    I believe the Australian authorities deem "recent" to be in the last six months. Djokovic had COVID in June. I wasn't able to find any more recent instances.

     "Valid reasons for a temporary exemption include:

    • For an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, inflammatory cardiac illness within the past 3 months, e.g., myocarditis or pericarditis; acute rheumatic fever or acute rheumatic heart disease (i.e., with active myocardial inflammation); or acute decompensated heart failure

    • For all COVID-19 vaccines:
    o Acute major medical condition (e.g. undergoing major surgery or hospital admission for a serious illness). Typically, these are time-limited conditions (or the medical treatment for them is time limited).
    o PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, where vaccination can be deferred until 6 months after the infection. Vaccination should be deferred for 90 days in people who have received anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibody or convalescent plasma therapy.
    o Any serious adverse event attributed to a previous dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, without another cause identified, and with no acceptable alternative vaccine available. For example a person <60 years of age, contraindicated to receive Pfizer vaccine and in whom the risks do not outweigh the benefits for receipt of AstraZeneca vaccine, is eligible for a temporary exemption.
    o If the vaccinee is a risk to themselves or others during the vaccination process they may warrant a temporary vaccine exemption. This may include a range of individuals with underlying developmental or mental health disorders, but noting that non-pharmacological interventions can safely facilitate vaccination in many individuals with behavioural ATAGI Guidance 2 disturbances and that specialist services may be available to facilitate the safe administration of vaccines in this population.

    Chronic symptoms following COVID-19 ("Long COVID”) are not a contraindication to COVID-19 vaccines, but do warrant a clinical discussion with the patient.

    Pregnancy is not a valid reason for exemption in the absence of any of the criteria listed above."

    https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/11/atagi-expanded-guidance-on-temporary-medical-exemptions-for-covid-19-vaccines.pdf



    Highlighted in bold is the supposed basis of his application.

  • So where is all this Government control leading Franky - I think we deserve to know.
    It's very strange that it's happening across the world at the same time - who is orchestrating it? Who can we trust?

    Your sarcasm isn't worth any more responses, I will no longer respond on this thread. I would suggest you look at how chinese society operates, to see where our own is headed, it's happening under your noses but keep mocking me, you agree with vaccine passports, and mandatory vaccines, reduced public ''privileges'' for one of the least threatening virus outbreaks in the history of humanity, you're already beyond realizing any truth, you can't address any point I've made without being arrogant and sarcastic. Good luck.
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  • Novak Djokovic is a fantastic tennis player.
    Possibly will be the best ever on longevity and titles in the men's game ?

    Always important to mention that because if he was the world number 200 this would not be front and back page news all over the World.

    As a believer in Vaccines I have struggled to understand his point of view but I don't think he's a crackpot for his beliefs any more than folk who put their hands together to pray despite that being a futile habit as well.
    I really like Djok as a tennis player and also because he faces down the shit he gets at tournaments when up against more public friendly characters like Rafa and  Federer, and his odd beliefs about effective health measures are just interesting until they start to impact an epidemic during which a failure to get mass buy in has serious consequences for so many.  I'm disappointed because I loved that he smacked up so many public darlings and now it is going to be difficult to watch without prejudice.

    As for whether he is a crackpot:

    "In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance.

    And during an Instagram live, he claimed that positive thought could "cleanse" polluted water, adding that "scientists have proven that molecules in water react to our emotions." "
  • "The whole of Serbia is with him and our authorities are undertaking all measures in order that maltreatment of the world's best tennis player ends as soon as possible," Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said after speaking with Djokovic over the phone.

    "In line with all standards of international public law, Serbia will fight for Novak Djokovic, justice and truth."

    Funny to think that there are most likely millions of Serbians who would emigrated to Australia tomorrow given half the chance
  • I saw a clip of his mother claiming he’s being held like a common criminal.
    What utter bollox. He can ask to go to the nearest airport “at any time he so chooses” and get the first flight out of there to more or less wherever he wants.
    Isn't telling a lie to gain a visa a crime?
  • I saw a clip of his mother claiming he’s being held like a common criminal.
    What utter bollox. He can ask to go to the nearest airport “at any time he so chooses” and get the first flight out of there to more or less wherever he wants.
    That's mums though isn't it?
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