Jams, I have a second cousin, actually a Charlton fan, who was born without legs due to the Thalidomide drug that was supposed to make it easier for women to have a more comfortable pregnancy. I am not condemning scientists out of hand - just saying stop treating them as if they are demi-gods. They make mistakes and are sometimes stupid. Like I wonder who it was who decided it would be a good idea to make an atomic bomb.
So you cherry pick which scientists you back up and agree with, depending on whether their science aligns with your political / general outlook on life?
Afternoon Gribbo. No, I don't cherry pick scientists, although there are loads who oppose the Covid vaccine but are not given space on main line media. I am anti vaccination full stop and so was my mother, so I have never been vaccinated in my life and nether has my daughter. We are all healthy and so far untouched by the Covid epidemic. If any of us gets struck down I'll be honest enough to report it on here. Meanwhile keep well.
Are you anti vaccination only or does it extend to other medication ?
Wife is a homeopath, acupuncturist etc so I go down that route if unwell, which is rare. Homeopathy works brilliantly for some people and not so well for others. I was stung by a bee in the summer. My hand quickly swelled up and I felt sick but after taking one tab of Apis mellifica I sat and watched as the swelling diminished and half an hour later I was back in the garden trimming the roses again. Remarkable really.
Homeopathy doesn't 'work' for anybody. It's demonstrably absolute, utter, complete and total bollocks. Acupuncture exactly the same - though the placebo effect (the feeling that having needles stuck into you is doing you some good) is slightly stronger there because it's a demonstrable effect - whereas drinking water requires a little more stretch of the imagination.
There's a reason that they don't call for a homeopath in ICUs...
Presumably @wolfboy would ask for a homeopath in ICU but then given how healthy him and his family he'd never end up in there.
Jams, I have a second cousin, actually a Charlton fan, who was born without legs due to the Thalidomide drug that was supposed to make it easier for women to have a more comfortable pregnancy. I am not condemning scientists out of hand - just saying stop treating them as if they are demi-gods. They make mistakes and are sometimes stupid. Like I wonder who it was who decided it would be a good idea to make an atomic bomb.
So you cherry pick which scientists you back up and agree with, depending on whether their science aligns with your political / general outlook on life?
Afternoon Gribbo. No, I don't cherry pick scientists, although there are loads who oppose the Covid vaccine but are not given space on main line media. I am anti vaccination full stop and so was my mother, so I have never been vaccinated in my life and nether has my daughter. We are all healthy and so far untouched by the Covid epidemic. If any of us gets struck down I'll be honest enough to report it on here. Meanwhile keep well.
Are you anti vaccination only or does it extend to other medication ?
Wife is a homeopath, acupuncturist etc so I go down that route if unwell, which is rare. Homeopathy works brilliantly for some people and not so well for others. I was stung by a bee in the summer. My hand quickly swelled up and I felt sick but after taking one tab of Apis mellifica I sat and watched as the swelling diminished and half an hour later I was back in the garden trimming the roses again. Remarkable really.
Homeopathy doesn't 'work' for anybody. It's demonstrably absolute, utter, complete and total bollocks. Acupuncture exactly the same - though the placebo effect (the feeling that having needles stuck into you is doing you some good) is slightly stronger there because it's a demonstrable effect - whereas drinking water requires a little more stretch of the imagination.
There's a reason that they don't call for a homeopath in ICUs...
You can get acupuncture on the NHS...... It is an excellent form of pain and stress management tool.
Someone who believes in pseudo-science saying "homeopathy works brilliantly for some people and not so well for others" is fucking hilarious. Also a bit tragic.
Presumably the precautions are not because he is simply unvaccinated, but because he lied on his visa application, which is taken pretty seriously by most countries.
I know but taking his phone away from him seems a bit much. He's the tennis world number 1, not al Qaeda. He's probably never even seen a visa application, he must have a PA who does that for him.
Bet he’s gutted he can’t get on Charlton life, now he’s had his mobile taken away.
Christ, who left the door open at the bellend farm...?
@AFKABartram - got to do something about this swivel-headed loon, surely?
Why have i never come across this before, It's made my day. I've set myself a target of using it 5 times tomorrow which will be tough as I'm working from home all day.
Like so many of the other anti-vaxxers, (of which you are a vast, but unfortunately vocal, minority) all you do is post absolute garbage and since de-bunked bullshit, and spread nonsensical stories and use quotes and theories from crackpot wankers, and expect us to lap it up, yet when given a whole mountain of evidence to show you how fucking wrong you are, you just come back with
"Ah that's what they want you to think, wake up Sheeple"
Jams, I have a second cousin, actually a Charlton fan, who was born without legs due to the Thalidomide drug that was supposed to make it easier for women to have a more comfortable pregnancy. I am not condemning scientists out of hand - just saying stop treating them as if they are demi-gods. They make mistakes and are sometimes stupid. Like I wonder who it was who decided it would be a good idea to make an atomic bomb.
So you cherry pick which scientists you back up and agree with, depending on whether their science aligns with your political / general outlook on life?
Afternoon Gribbo. No, I don't cherry pick scientists, although there are loads who oppose the Covid vaccine but are not given space on main line media. I am anti vaccination full stop and so was my mother, so I have never been vaccinated in my life and nether has my daughter. We are all healthy and so far untouched by the Covid epidemic. If any of us gets struck down I'll be honest enough to report it on here. Meanwhile keep well.
Are you anti vaccination only or does it extend to other medication ?
Wife is a homeopath, acupuncturist etc so I go down that route if unwell, which is rare. Homeopathy works brilliantly for some people and not so well for others. I was stung by a bee in the summer. My hand quickly swelled up and I felt sick but after taking one tab of Apis mellifica I sat and watched as the swelling diminished and half an hour later I was back in the garden trimming the roses again. Remarkable really.
You do realise that bee stings go down naturally don't you? You could have hit your other hand with a club hammer and the one that had been stung would still get better. Coincidence does not imply causation.
Someone who believes in pseudo-science saying "homeopathy works brilliantly for some people and not so well for others" is fucking hilarious. Also a bit tragic.
I guess in a way he's right. He just doesn't specify who it works for: the absolute charlatans who are milking the gullible with their lies and snake oil.
Or perhaps the ''swiss policy research'' study that shows covid has a 99.7% survival rate for the elderly, and that hospitalisations are in line with influenza figures.
Someone's already thoroughly debunked the first of your claims so I'll move onto the next one. Here's some actual data, from Johns Hopkins.
I had a quick scroll down the table of mortality rates but I couldn't quite work out how you get to a 0.3% rate from the figures there. Can you enlighten me please?
Or perhaps the ''swiss policy research'' study that shows covid has a 99.7% survival rate for the elderly, and that hospitalisations are in line with influenza figures.
Someone's already thoroughly debunked the first of your claims so I'll move onto the next one. Here's some actual data, from Johns Hopkins.
I had a quick scroll down the table of mortality rates but I couldn't quite work out how you get to a 0.3% rate from the figures there. Can you enlighten me please?
Looks like it must have been from a rather remarkable study that only included Burundi, Bhutan, Iceland, Qatar, Maldives, Norway, UAE and Singapore
Presumably the precautions are not because he is simply unvaccinated, but because he lied on his visa application, which is taken pretty seriously by most countries.
I know but taking his phone away from him seems a bit much. He's the tennis world number 1, not al Qaeda. He's probably never even seen a visa application, he must have a PA who does that for him.
But with visa applications, you have to 'sign' so the applicant is ultimately 100% responsible
Does ruin the legitimacy of a tournament when the best player isn’t competing in. Feel sorry for whoever wins the tournament as their success won’t be the biggest story of the tournament.
Does ruin the legitimacy of a tournament when the best player isn’t competing in. Feel sorry for whoever wins the tournament as their success won’t be the biggest story of the tournament.
But he is not the top player who qualifies to play
Does ruin the legitimacy of a tournament when the best player isn’t competing in. Feel sorry for whoever wins the tournament as their success won’t be the biggest story of the tournament.
I was thinking about flying over there and having a crack now he ain't playing. I'm triple vaccinated so shouldn't have any visa issues
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@AFKABartram - got to do something about this swivel-headed loon, surely?
"Ah that's what they want you to think, wake up Sheeple"
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
I had a quick scroll down the table of mortality rates but I couldn't quite work out how you get to a 0.3% rate from the figures there. Can you enlighten me please?