Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max
If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs
This is actually a very worrying concern!
They could. But in Brentford's case, they'll still be an excellent side.
Dangerous game though. I remember Bowyer mucking about a bit away to Rochdale and we lost against a crap side. We then had no momentum going into the play-off with Shrewsbury.
Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max
If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs
This is actually a very worrying concern!
They could. But in Brentford's case, they'll still be an excellent side.
Dangerous game though. I remember Bowyer mucking about a bit away to Rochdale and we lost against a crap side. We then had no momentum going into the play-off with Shrewsbury.
Thanks to WBA drawing yesterday, Brentford still have a chance of automatic, especially as their GD is so good. They certainly won't be saving players for the playoffs
Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max
If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs
You need to go into the playoffs as an in-form team. Rest your players and you might as well not bother to turn up for the playoff games, especially if the other three teams are Brentford, Fulham and whoever grabs that contested 6th place spot. Last season we were out of playoff spots at the start of the run in and ended up 3rd on the last day of the season. We were the form team and got promoted.
Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max
If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs
This is actually a very worrying concern!
They could. But in Brentford's case, they'll still be an excellent side.
Dangerous game though. I remember Bowyer mucking about a bit away to Rochdale and we lost against a crap side. We then had no momentum going into the play-off with Shrewsbury.
Thanks to WBA drawing yesterday, Brentford still have a chance of automatic, especially as their GD is so good. They certainly won't be saving players for the playoffs
WBA play Fulham this week, win for Fulham and they're back with a chance of automatic promotion.
Big big night of football Tuesday evening a win for Luton and Hull and our backs would really be up against the wall.Seeing those sides play one another this coming Saturday. On Wedsneday Birmingham v Charlton hard place to go at the best of times and with our lack of goals from our front men things not looking good.
Also the little matter of Wigan on Saturday..By 3pm 18thjuly we could be at best looking to beat Leeds at Elland Road to stay up.
Big big night of football Tuesday evening a win for Luton and Hull and our backs would really be up against the wall.Seeing those sides play one another this coming Saturday. On Wedsneday Birmingham v Charlton hard place to go at the best of times and with our lack of goals from our front men things not looking good.
Also the little matter of Wigan on Saturday..By 3pm 18thjuly we could be at best looking to beat Leeds at Elland Road to stay up.
Barnsley,Charlton,Huddersfield my bottom three.
I'm assuming you think Wigan's deduction will be overturned then?
If Hull win on Tuesday, that leaves Wigan on 42 with the deduction (as they play each other) . So you have them overtaking Huddersfield with 2 games left, who are already on 47?
Also, you have both Hull and Luton surviving, even though they're both currently in the relegation zone and both still have to play each other?
I'm not looking at this with rose-tinted glasses, and I'm very much 50:50 on whether I think we will survive, but for me you have to have one of Hull, Luton or Wigan in the bottom 3 just based on the fact that 2/3 are already there (deduction or no deduction) and they face one another.
Beat Brum then draw with Wigan, and that probably will be enough (50 points) as Wigan (net 42 currently) won't be able to overtake us, and while not impossible mathematically, it seems really unlikely that Hull AND Luton would reach the 51 needed to overtake us due to their worse GD. Hull would need 2 wins Luton would need 2 wins and a draw
And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points
I fear we may slip into the bottom three on the last day of the season like we did in the last game before lockdown. A win at Birmingham is the solution.
Beat Wigan and we almost definitely stay up. They won’t escape the 12 point penalty. Barnsley look gone. Boro or Hull to take the 3rd relegation place. Lose to Wigan and we are gone. If we draw, god knows what happens!
Beat Birmingham on Wednesday (we go above them on GD) and I think they could be the ones to go. They face playoff chasing Preston and Derby in their final 2 games.
Beat Birmingham on Wednesday (we go above them on GD) and I think they could be the ones to go. They face playoff chasing Preston and Derby in their final 2 games.
Much depends on Hull v Luton. If Hull Win, I agree that beating Birmingham probably sends them down on 49 points with an inferior goal difference. I am still concerned that Leeds will thump us on the final day and crucify our better goal difference. Such a shame we screwed up the last 3 games which should have yielded 2-4 points. We have put the pressure on ourselves big time now.
We beat Wigan then they can't catch us. Barnsley would need to win at either Leeds or Brentford which isnt going to happen. Finally provided Hull do not beat Luton I can't see them taking 4 points from their 2 away games.
I said a while back that all this talk of 53 points was fanciful. It is not inconceivable that our goal difference keeps us up on 48 points provided that includes a draw with Wigan.
Beat Brum then draw with Wigan, and that probably will be enough (50 points) as Wigan (net 42 currently) won't be able to overtake us, and while not impossible mathematically, it seems really unlikely that Hull AND Luton would reach the 51 needed to overtake us due to their worse GD. Hull would need 2 wins Luton would need 2 wins and a draw
And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points
Beat Brum then draw with Wigan, and that probably will be enough (50 points) as Wigan (net 42 currently) won't be able to overtake us, and while not impossible mathematically, it seems really unlikely that Hull AND Luton would reach the 51 needed to overtake us due to their worse GD. Hull would need 2 wins Luton would need 2 wins and a draw
And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points
But it all depends on beating Brum...
And don't forget Barnsley as well.
I think 50 will definitely be enough.
I've mentally discarded Barnsley, it's a very long shot they'll overtake us if we beat Brum
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Turns out they don't care.
We need to get 4-5 points from the next 3 games and we'll be ok.
Dangerous game though. I remember Bowyer mucking about a bit away to Rochdale and we lost against a crap side. We then had no momentum going into the play-off with Shrewsbury.
Personally, I'm more hopeful of points against Leeds, which in itself is quite forlorn.
Stoke and Barnsley have toughest run ins I think. Birmingham's last two are not easy if we can beat them.
Stoke. 3 points ahead
Brentford
Forest
Charlton
Preston
Derby
Middlesbrough:. 1 point ahead
Reading
Cardiff
Sheff Wed
Huddersfield:. 1 point ahead
Sheff Wed
West Brom
Millwall
Charlton:
Birmingham
Wigan
Leeds
Hull:. 1.point behind
Wigan
Luton
Cardiff
Luton:. 2 points behind
QPR
Hull
Blackburn
Sheffield Wednesday. 3 points behind
Huddersfield
Fulham
Middlesbrough
Barnsley:. 3 points behind
Leeds
Forest
Brentford
Wigan:. 4 points behind
Hull
Charlton
Fulham
On Wedsneday Birmingham v Charlton hard place to go at the best of times and with our lack of goals from our front men things not looking good.
Also the little matter of Wigan on Saturday..By 3pm 18thjuly we could be at best looking to beat Leeds at Elland Road to stay up.
Barnsley,Charlton,Huddersfield my bottom three.
If Hull win on Tuesday, that leaves Wigan on 42 with the deduction (as they play each other) . So you have them overtaking Huddersfield with 2 games left, who are already on 47?
Also, you have both Hull and Luton surviving, even though they're both currently in the relegation zone and both still have to play each other?
I'm not looking at this with rose-tinted glasses, and I'm very much 50:50 on whether I think we will survive, but for me you have to have one of Hull, Luton or Wigan in the bottom 3 just based on the fact that 2/3 are already there (deduction or no deduction) and they face one another.
Hull would need 2 wins
Luton would need 2 wins and a draw
And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points
But it all depends on beating Brum...
They face playoff chasing Preston and Derby in their final 2 games.
I said a while back that all this talk of 53 points was fanciful. It is not inconceivable that our goal difference keeps us up on 48 points provided that includes a draw with Wigan.
I think 50 will definitely be enough.