What's easily forgotten in this is that we got 48 points, enough to stay up in many seasons. We gave it a good go, just lacked quality and nerve when it mattered. Bow & Jacko are still learning, and (as with Bonne, Doughty, Morgan) we have to cut them some slack on their mistakes.
Completely echo the opening post and many others. What they have had to put up with, and to still make us competitive up until the final day, has been nothing short of astonishing.
If Lee had stability and proper backing (I am assuming PV and Barclay would have provided this), then I am positive we would be promoted to the Premier League within a couple of seasons. Alas it's not to be and like us fans, Lee has been massively let down and our aspirations extinguished. For how long, I don't know.
If I were Lee, I would seriously consider taking the Birmingham job - who knows what he will left with here once the dust has settled.
My main anger (and being honest some apathy) lies with the owners, both RD and especially ESI. This relegation was totally avoidable and that's what hurts the most.
I can't believe the job Bowyer, Jackson, Gallen and the rest of the team have done. We must have been on one of the/if not the smallest budget in the division. We faced an injury crisis, before facing an off the field meltdown, after years of under investment.
I hope they are all able to finally have a rest, they've deserved it, before we go again next year.
That was 100% predictable. No matter how much crap is going on in the background, we failed badly. Bowyer is bizarrely popular but in truth is a total failure as a manger. Just because some fans can relate to him he is popular, but that doesn’t excuse his negative tactics and his abject failure to scrap out those few points we needed in the last few matches to keep us in this league. I wont miss him. We are in the shit now with parasites running the club looking for a payday. They wont get be getting my money any more.
Wow, simply breathing. You've made 29 posts in the last 10 years and choose one of them to slate the brightest light at our club in the last 7 years - kick when we're down. Astonishing.
People also forget that we ended the season with Doughty, Davison, Bonne, Aneke and Morgan in the side.
Morgan and Doughty were on loan in non league earlier in the season. Bonne was non league last season. Aneke was league 2 last season. Davison was playing in the Isthmian league last season.
And we're trying to compete with teams who have players signed for 10m+
Gutted for them, Bow, Jacko and the rest of the team gave everything to the cause and you can see that are hurting. Wanted blame any single one of them if they left in the summer the way things have been run down there and have never used it as an excuse.
I too would like offer my thanx and gratitude to Lee Bowyer and his staff they done an amazing job with there hands tied behind there backs and so much shit going on behind the scenes WELL DONE GUYS
A tremendous achievement by the players and playing staff that completed the season in difficult circumstances. To have come within minutes of staying up despite the lack of investment in the squad is quite remarkable. It’s very much a roller coaster ride on the addicks express. Silver lining for me is a local game in Pompey, all the pointers are towards a rough ride ahead, better hold on tight!
You dont have to agree that he always got it right to think that he performed well above what we could expect.
I personally think he set up badly at first against leeds but that doesnt take away from his accomplishments and doesn't make me think there was anyone who could've done better.
I want to add my thanks to the football management team for the massive effort they have put in this season.
Lee Bowyer has earned an enormous amount of respect for the way he has conducted himself through the ordeal of working for a succession of lying, thieving conmen. He has retained his dignity and kept quiet when he must have been itching to explain the way his hands were completely tied, made worse by the scumbag southall and his supa dupa phone, a smokescreen to deflect blame from the leech.
He's a young bloke in his first management job, and he's worked relative miracles. He hasn't always got it spot on, who does? But with the resources he's had at his disposal he and his team have worked wonders. Who could have done a better job in the same circumstances?
I hope Lee, Jacko and Gallen stay, for without them the eventual rebuilding will be far more difficult. But I fully expect some or all of them to depart for somewhere sane and stable. I am sure great things await Lee in his future management career, and if he departs I wish him all the best.
The management team are massively in credit over the last 2-3 years for what they've achieved in frankly shambolic circumstances. Of course Bowyer has made mistakes - I think the pressure got to him slightly in the last few weeks - but that's understandable
I think Bowyer will leave, but to have a break from football and return to his fishing lake. Birmingham are hardly an attractive prospect, he can wait for better offers
I am deeply sceptical about calling for Jackson as manager when Bowyer leaves. There is absolutely no evidence that he has the strength of character or tactical skills for the job.
Folk seem to forget that as a player he captained us to relegation - and openly admitted it was the players' fault, not Duchatelet's. And now he is assistant manager, guiding us down to League One again.
Note that Middlesbrough appointed Warnock, an experienced manager, when they looked doomed. And he has kept them up.
Absolutely gutted. So much went wrong, from RD dicking Bowyer around over a new contract in the summer, and then giving him a budget that most fans acknowledged made relegation a real probability. The never ending injuries, including a Taylor injury after a nonsensical international fixture (I'd cut him some slack but he showed at the end of the season that he would risk injury when Charlton picked up the tab, but wouldn't respect his contract when he personally might lose out. Fuck him!). Then the fireworks began. The ESI morons with no money emptying the accounts, a secret transfer embargo just when we lost Gallagher, Nimer and Mouthall embarrassingly squabbling on social media, covid-19 breaking up the season, the new potless owner and no clue for the fans what is going on, and finally we restart the season with a hugely diminished squad, no Taylor or Solly, battle it out but the quality gap when your front line were in non league a year ago was always going to be a problem. Plus a couple of odd decisions by the referees in crucial moments. I'm tired of seeing the players abused. Bonne can only do his best - expecting him (or any of the others) to transform into Yann Kermogant when he was bought as a punt for the future is childish. At least he stood up for the team. Better players hid. Bowyer made a couple of odd decisions, but he was up against wind and tide - was he supposed to turn journeyman into stars at the same time? He'd be at Barcelona or Man City if that were the case. I hope the club can sort the ownership out now. We need all the spivs and tossers cleaned out, and new owners (Barclay/Varney) to steady the ship. But that's me out for now, it's terrible watching the locusts destroy the club. And I couldn't give a flying fuck about the play offs etc. Time for a break.
Nothing but praise for the management team, I just hope they stick around.
i think this relegation hurts more because we were literally seconds from staying up (fucking Brentford), is resigned myself to relegation before the game and gave up watching our game at 3-0 but to then have it snatched away like that was painful
We dust ourselves down and go again. I would be happy with JJ and Chrissy Powell as a director of football. Or Jase and Chrissy doing the same role. They would be the manager, but Chrissy could be there for them.
Ultimately, pointless until we get rid of the bastards that need to go. Duchatelet and ESI deserve the worst.
Lee Bowyer I thank you and respect you for your fantastic Loyalty and hard work under very difficult circumstances caused by SCUM like Roland Rat and Matt Southall and finally Lyle Taylor who should be put down. i don’t want you to leave, but I wish you all the success in the world if you do. you are a top man and a very good manager 👍👍👍👍
Not much to add to what has already been said. LB, Jacko and Gallen put us in a place where we had a great chance of survival amidst a backdrop of uncertainty and madness. I hope they all stay but would understand if they didn’t. How many of us would work for a company with this much craziness going on?
Someone should send LB this thread to cheer up his day
Barring maybe the last day which is unsurprising due to the quality of the Leeds team and a few issues with goalscoring outside of our control I think we went down as fighters and I can respect that.
We dust ourselves down and go again. I would be happy with JJ and Chrissy Powell as a director of football. Or Jase and Chrissy doing the same role. They would be the manager, but Chrissy could be there for them.
Ultimately, pointless until we get rid of the bastards that need to go. Duchatelet and ESI deserve the worst.
I would imagine Chris Powell is very happy in his role with the national team and highly unlikely to want to move from that to the disaster area that is CAFC right now!
Someone should send LB this thread to cheer up his day
Barring maybe the last day which is unsurprising due to the quality of the Leeds team and a few issues with goalscoring outside of our control I think we went down as fighters and I can respect that.
Yes, I would love to hear that Lee received our sentiments of thanks and gratitude. Anyone 'in the know' able to point him in the direction of this thread? Would it be over the top to have some sort of collection (like you do when a work colleague leaves) to buy him something to remember us by? I am happy to contribute £20.
Someone should send LB this thread to cheer up his day
Barring maybe the last day which is unsurprising due to the quality of the Leeds team and a few issues with goalscoring outside of our control I think we went down as fighters and I can respect that.
It would be good for Bowyer & Co to know that they are held in high esteem, that their efforts are appreciated and that we know the blame for relegation is firmly elsewhere. This thread might want a bit of tidying though. Unfortunately we seem to have one or two posters who would write 'fuck off and good riddance' on a retirement card if they had the chance.
Nothing but praise for the management team, I just hope they stick around.
i think this relegation hurts more because we were literally seconds from staying up (fucking Brentford), is resigned myself to relegation before the game and gave up watching our game at 3-0 but to then have it snatched away like that was painful
People also forget that we ended the season with Doughty, Davison, Bonne, Aneke and Morgan in the side.
Morgan and Doughty were on loan in non league earlier in the season. Bonne was non league last season. Aneke was league 2 last season. Davison was playing in the Isthmian league last season.
And we're trying to compete with teams who have players signed for 10m+
Turned over to the Brentford game middle of second half as it became more relevant than Elland Rd. Great celebrations when they equalised, but disgraceful bottle jobs last two games since WBA lost at Huddersfield. I now hope they fail in the play-offs. Devestating when Barnsley nicked it.
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If Lee had stability and proper backing (I am assuming PV and Barclay would have provided this), then I am positive we would be promoted to the Premier League within a couple of seasons. Alas it's not to be and like us fans, Lee has been massively let down and our aspirations extinguished. For how long, I don't know.
If I were Lee, I would seriously consider taking the Birmingham job - who knows what he will left with here once the dust has settled.
My main anger (and being honest some apathy) lies with the owners, both RD and especially ESI. This relegation was totally avoidable and that's what hurts the most.
I hope they are all able to finally have a rest, they've deserved it, before we go again next year.
Morgan and Doughty were on loan in non league earlier in the season.
Bonne was non league last season.
Aneke was league 2 last season.
Davison was playing in the Isthmian league last season.
And we're trying to compete with teams who have players signed for 10m+
I personally think he set up badly at first against leeds but that doesnt take away from his accomplishments and doesn't make me think there was anyone who could've done better.
I think Bowyer will leave, but to have a break from football and return to his fishing lake. Birmingham are hardly an attractive prospect, he can wait for better offers
Jacko would jump at the chance of taking over.
Folk seem to forget that as a player he captained us to relegation - and openly admitted it was the players' fault, not Duchatelet's. And now he is assistant manager, guiding us down to League One again.
Note that Middlesbrough appointed Warnock, an experienced manager, when they looked doomed. And he has kept them up.
Then the fireworks began. The ESI morons with no money emptying the accounts, a secret transfer embargo just when we lost Gallagher, Nimer and Mouthall embarrassingly squabbling on social media, covid-19 breaking up the season, the new potless owner and no clue for the fans what is going on, and finally we restart the season with a hugely diminished squad, no Taylor or Solly, battle it out but the quality gap when your front line were in non league a year ago was always going to be a problem. Plus a couple of odd decisions by the referees in crucial moments.
I'm tired of seeing the players abused. Bonne can only do his best - expecting him (or any of the others) to transform into Yann Kermogant when he was bought as a punt for the future is childish. At least he stood up for the team. Better players hid.
Bowyer made a couple of odd decisions, but he was up against wind and tide - was he supposed to turn journeyman into stars at the same time? He'd be at Barcelona or Man City if that were the case.
I hope the club can sort the ownership out now. We need all the spivs and tossers cleaned out, and new owners (Barclay/Varney) to steady the ship. But that's me out for now, it's terrible watching the locusts destroy the club. And I couldn't give a flying fuck about the play offs etc. Time for a break.
i think this relegation hurts more because we were literally seconds from staying up (fucking Brentford), is resigned myself to relegation before the game and gave up watching our game at 3-0 but to then have it snatched away like that was painful
Ultimately, pointless until we get rid of the bastards that need to go. Duchatelet and ESI deserve the worst.
i don’t want you to leave, but I wish you all the success in the world if you do.
you are a top man and a very good manager 👍👍👍👍
Barring maybe the last day which is unsurprising due to the quality of the Leeds team and a few issues with goalscoring outside of our control I think we went down as fighters and I can respect that.
Thanks for giving us hope.