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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)
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Highly unlikely as it would completely reverse Judge Pearce's decision 24 hours ago.JoshrewCAFC said:Can the takeover be stopped in today's proceedings?1 -
Ok this makes sense. Can relax thenMattF said:
Compensation I assumeLeeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me0 -
Judge ruling on transfer. Court has power to do so. Agreed with Chaisty that none of usual criteria apply to this particular case. May be case should not have been issued in Manchester, but appropriate matters to consider are consequences of transfer.
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I very much doubt that otherwise it becomes a sort of injuction on its own.KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.0 -
Judge Pearce saying in normal times there would be a reasonably strong interest of Charlton fans would make London a much more appropriate venue than Manchester. But he says no prospect of hearing taking place that any significant number of public could be present in person.
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Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.1 -
If people can't stfu they need to stay away, for their own sakes if nothing else.ForeverAddickted said:
Hopefully those people keep their opinions to themselves until this is all donect_addick said:If he attacks LK he will get dogs abuse
Sounds like it could easily bite them on the arse if needed5 -
In normal times interest of #cafc fans might make transfer to London sensible, but because of Covid accommodating even 20 fans unlikely. Sees advantage of it being remote and therefore not a factor in favour of transfer. Judge not in charge of lists in London.
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Its irrelevant that because Charlton fans would happily travel to Manchester to attend as well4
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Why bother appealing then?Lordflashheart said:
Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.0 -
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That's their rub.MattF said:
Compensation I assumeLeeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me
Who would they get it from?
Nimer and Southall appear to be potless.
The reward they are seeking has been taken out of the equation by the judge yesterday.
Nimer has effectively shut himself down. ADBD appears to have disappeared
Southall does have some nice garden pots and a free consultation at a Harley Street plastic surgeons if that's any good?1 -
Have the trial at the O2. Even with distancing, should be able to get 3000 spectators in!6
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Unlike London, Manchester could take trial in November so in order to achieve a speedy trial strong argument to hold it in Manchester. Declines transfer.
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I assume they'd be chasing profits from any sale/potential loss in profits from any salecarly burn said:
That's their rub.MattF said:
Compensation I assumeLeeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me
Who would they get it from?
Nimer and Southall appear to be potless.
The reward they are seeking has been taken out of the equation by the judge yesterday.
Nimer has effectively shut himself down. ADBD appears to have disappeared
Southall does have some nice garden pots and a free consultation at a Harley Street plastic surgeons if that's any good?1 -
part of the process so that they can get their grubby mitts on proceeds of the sale.KentishAddick said:
Why bother appealing then?Lordflashheart said:
Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.2 -
MattF said:Its irrelevant that because Charlton fans would happily travel to Manchester to attend as well
Yeah but the point is that London is an alternative to Manchester that (in normal circumstances) would make most sense given that the majority of the 'interested parties' are in and around the London area.0 -
I don’t know - maybe so the barrister can earn some more money !!KentishAddick said:
Why bother appealing then?Lordflashheart said:
Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.3 -
Pearce asking if there are any objections to him hearing the case. Chaisty and Kreamer both saying no objections. Pearce: "That makes it easier listing it".
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They want an appeal to get yesterday's decision overturned, so they get their injunction to prevent a sale.Leeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me
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Pearce was going to propose November 23 as a start date.
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Hoping for a payoff from TS to go awayKentishAddick said:
Why bother appealing then?Lordflashheart said:
Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.2 -
So only just November then ChristForeverAddickted said:Pearce was going to propose November 23 as a start date.1 -
It’s so confusing. Why are they appealing ?1
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Richard Crawley said on Twitter, that can't happen?Covered End said:
They want an appeal to get yesterday's decision overturned, so they get their injunction to prevent a sale.Leeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me1 -
This could be playing into TS hands even more so now.
ESI need to get out quick before this gets anywhere near a trial.
So unless the Turks are nearly there id say they are dead in the water. They probably don't even exist10 -
Bedsaddick said:It’s so confusing. Why are they appealing ?
1. Damages 2. Possibility that TS can't/won't get the deal done by then, I guess.0 -
Yes imagine it's in their interests to take what's been offered asap and have as long as possible to disappearcarly burn said:This could be playing into TS hands even more so now.
ESI need to get out quick before this gets anywhere near a trial.
So unless the Turks are nearly there id say they are dead in the water. They probably don't even exist2 -
I think they can appeal it but it's likely the club will have been sold before an appeal is heard.mattinfinland said:
Richard Crawley said on Twitter, that can't happen?Covered End said:
They want an appeal to get yesterday's decision overturned, so they get their injunction to prevent a sale.Leeds_Addick said:If we are sold in the meantime then what would be the point of an appeal?
That's what's confusing me
If the appeal overturns the injunction then they might be entitled to more compensation than otherwise?
I'm not so sure about the second part0 -
Costs mainly. I presume Elliott knows it's going to shit but doesn't want a massive legal bill on top.KentishAddick said:
Why bother appealing then?Lordflashheart said:
Judge made his decision yesterday so that’s that as far as I can work out - they can lodge an appeal, but ES1 will still have a free hand ?KentishAddick said:
Surely if they lodge an appeal then Panorama can't sell the club before it's heard?LargeAddick said:MattF said:If they lodge an appeal, can a sale go through before the appeal is heard? Or would they have to argue over compensation is an injunction is subsequently granted after the sale to hopefully TS?Few people confused. The hearing today doesn't change the fact that Panorama Magic can sell the football club. They are likely to discuss trial schedule and Lev Dominus suing Panorama for alleged breach of contract. Could also lodge an appeal on judge's ruling.1 -
Thank god the Judge didnt allow the injunction and let it go to trial yesterday
Nov 23rd isnt fast given its going to take four to five days... thats pissing December almost!!4
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