Can only think it's medical protocal from the initial diagnosis, but yes you do hear of players returning from injury sooner so if he feels no pain and the scan was brought forward, I'd understand the logic!
We are doing things properly and with this injury he needs a scan after X amount of weeks regularly.
He had one in the middle of January, the next one was around 4 weeks later which should be this Friday.
Ticking boxes and ensuring he doesn’t break down.
I suppose some of this is being enforced so to speak by Danny Murphy?
Bowyer's approach to rotating etc. seems to have coincided with him joining the club last season, and now we're seeing proper procedures being followed now he's the actual head Physio
Just as an aside I was looking up a favourite away game (5-3 at Brighton, 1985) in the Valiant 500 and it's a bit of an eye-opener.
Sir Lennie assembled a stellar back four for that promo winning side, and it virtually picked itself the whole season. Humphrey, Thompson, Pender, Reid. All four of them played a minimum of 38 games. Both Thompson and Pender were forced off by knocks in games, but were back the following week.
I rated John Pender, and my memory told me he suffered a serious injury in one of the following seasons (I thought at Wimbledon) but I can find no trace of that in the book. He only made 3 appearances in two seasons in the old First, and then disappears completely from the records. Of course his place was taken in the first of those seasons by the legendary Petr Shirtliff, but if he was fit, it also shows that rotation wasn't a thing in those days.
Just out of interest are the pop up gazebos at the training ground because we can’t afford to build proper facilities or due to Covid social distancing?
Just out of interest are the pop up gazebos at the training ground because we can’t afford to build proper facilities or due to Covid social distancing?
I think they said they were working on renovating the gym space didn't they? I could be wrong, it's a long winded renovation if so.
Something has got to give on the training front IMO.
We are getting too many injuries on the training ground, suggesting players are not getting the required recovery time or the sessions are too intense or both.
I agree and nobody is fooled by the counter debate of 'we don't know the exact number of injuries each other club suffers' as it will only take a little research to find the facts.
I agree and nobody is fooled by the counter debate of 'we don't know the exact number of injuries each other club suffers' as it will only take a little research to find the facts.
Rich Cawley just tweeted that Gilbey did his hamstring in training.
That's the 3rd hamstring in 6 weeks. Watson and JFC both picked up in early game period.
@Sage, what do you think, mate.? Isn't it an indication that things still aren't right in that dept?
I know in all the English Leagues there are more hamstring injuries this season due to the real lack of a pre-season and games coming sat/tues/sat...............however, we seem to pick up ours during training.
I have to say I don't know why players need to be exerting themselves in training. They should all be "match fit" and the time would be better off spent with shooting practice or defending tactics.
Rich Cawley just tweeted that Gilbey did his hamstring in training.
That's the 3rd hamstring in 6 weeks. Watson and JFC both picked up in early game period.
@Sage, what do you think, mate.? Isn't it an indication that things still aren't right in that dept?
I know in all the English Leagues there are more hamstring injuries this season due to the real lack of a pre-season and games coming sat/tues/sat...............however, we seem to pick up ours during training.
I have to say I don't know why players need to be exerting themselves in training. They should all be "match fit" and the time would be better off spent with shooting practice or defending tactics.
I agree and nobody is fooled by the counter debate of 'we don't know the exact number of injuries each other club suffers' as it will only take a little research to find the facts.
Rich Cawley just tweeted that Gilbey did his hamstring in training.
That's the 3rd hamstring in 6 weeks. Watson and JFC both picked up in early game period.
@Sage, what do you think, mate.? Isn't it an indication that things still aren't right in that dept?
This time of the season you always get more muscular injuries and even more so given the circumstances of this season.
I think the department is in the best shape it’s been for a while. I wouldn’t worried at all. The hamstring injuries aren’t severe at all, only Doughty this season. F-Caskey’s is minor as is Gilbey’s by the sounds of it.
Rich Cawley just tweeted that Gilbey did his hamstring in training.
That's the 3rd hamstring in 6 weeks. Watson and JFC both picked up in early game period.
@Sage, what do you think, mate.? Isn't it an indication that things still aren't right in that dept?
This time of the season you always get more muscular injuries and even more so given the circumstances of this season.
I think the department is in the best shape it’s been for a while. I wouldn’t worried at all. The hamstring injuries aren’t severe at all, only Doughty this season. F-Caskey’s is minor as is Gilbey’s by the sounds of it.
Cheers Sage, once again I don't believe we have issues in the medical side of things, more likely an issue in the training side of things.
Do you think the alleged intensity of training could be having an additional affect on the number of muscular injuries we're having?
As a part of this, Albie Morgan has been called out by Bowyer as having trained well of late. If he's the next to go down with a muscular injury in training caused by overworking and under recovering such as hamstring/quad strains i'd be lying if I were to say I wasn't concerned by what is beginning to look like a fact that certain players need to bust a gut to get into the squad increasing their fragility.
***I do realise we've only been really looking so closely at injuries this season, so we may have similar numbers to regular seasons so our dataset is imperfect to look at.
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If, as he hope and expect, it comes back all clear, he will be set to rejoin training with the first team on Monday.
By the end of the month we could have a fully fit squad. This isn’t tempting fate, I genuinely believe we will be alright.
Squad is looking much stronger now than it did this time last month.
He had one in the middle of January, the next one was around 4 weeks later which should be this Friday.
Ticking boxes and ensuring he doesn’t break down.
Bowyer's approach to rotating etc. seems to have coincided with him joining the club last season, and now we're seeing proper procedures being followed now he's the actual head Physio
Sir Lennie assembled a stellar back four for that promo winning side, and it virtually picked itself the whole season. Humphrey, Thompson, Pender, Reid. All four of them played a minimum of 38 games. Both Thompson and Pender were forced off by knocks in games, but were back the following week.
I rated John Pender, and my memory told me he suffered a serious injury in one of the following seasons (I thought at Wimbledon) but I can find no trace of that in the book. He only made 3 appearances in two seasons in the old First, and then disappears completely from the records. Of course his place was taken in the first of those seasons by the legendary Petr Shirtliff, but if he was fit, it also shows that rotation wasn't a thing in those days.
11 Match
6 down to Intl duty or illnesses.
48 appearances missed due to match injuries.
12 illnesses/internationals.
That's the 3rd hamstring in 6 weeks. Watson and JFC both picked up in early game period.
@Sage, what do you think, mate.? Isn't it an indication that things still aren't right in that dept?
We are getting too many injuries on the training ground, suggesting players are not getting the required recovery time or the sessions are too intense or both.
I have to say I don't know why players need to be exerting themselves in training. They should all be "match fit" and the time would be better off spent with shooting practice or defending tactics.
Team. Players used 15 games+ 25+
Us. 33. 17. 4
Hull. 27. 13. 6
Lincoln. 25. 14. 5
Pompy. 24. 13. 9
S'land. 27. 12. 4
Wigan. 36. 11. 2
Not sure that that actually shows anything really.
I think the department is in the best shape it’s been for a while. I wouldn’t worried at all. The hamstring injuries aren’t severe at all, only Doughty this season. F-Caskey’s is minor as is Gilbey’s by the sounds of it.
Do you think the alleged intensity of training could be having an additional affect on the number of muscular injuries we're having?
As a part of this, Albie Morgan has been called out by Bowyer as having trained well of late. If he's the next to go down with a muscular injury in training caused by overworking and under recovering such as hamstring/quad strains i'd be lying if I were to say I wasn't concerned by what is beginning to look like a fact that certain players need to bust a gut to get into the squad increasing their fragility.
***I do realise we've only been really looking so closely at injuries this season, so we may have similar numbers to regular seasons so our dataset is imperfect to look at.