Surprised at all the comments saying Pratley should have been off. I think it was a yellow but to get a red for that you need to make contact
So if you make a two footed, studs up challenge, and the opposition player is fortunate enough to jump out the way just in time you don't think it should be a red - even though the intent was the same?
It was one-footed. Out of control and if he'd hit the guy he'd have been off, but it wasn't quite as bad as you're making out
Surprised at all the comments saying Pratley should have been off. I think it was a yellow but to get a red for that you need to make contact
So if you make a two footed, studs up challenge, and the opposition player is fortunate enough to jump out the way just in time you don't think it should be a red - even though the intent was the same?
It was one-footed. Out of control and if he'd hit the guy he'd have been off, but it wasn't quite as bad as you're making out
For me personally if you are admitting the tackle was reckless enough that he would have been sent off if he made contact with the player, then he should have been sent off. The intent is exactly the same in both instances.
Idk, I think there's a massive difference. If you make a lunging tackle in such a way as to still avoid hitting the opponent, I think that is very different to a lunging tackle where you clean them out
Some posters pretty adamant that Pratley should have been sent off. The referee, of course, is the sole arbiter and his decision is always final. After an offence, this what he must consider before making his decision:
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
It's probably been said already, but let's not forget dear Thomas Sandgaard in all of this. A man who spent millions of pounds on us and without whom, we would not be where we are niw.
Idk, I think there's a massive difference. If you make a lunging tackle in such a way as to still avoid hitting the opponent, I think that is very different to a lunging tackle where you clean them out
in Jackett’s interview he said their fella felt his hamstring at half time so they took him off
Bowyer said ‘he (Famewo) was tight the other night. We thought It might be from his back and with it being Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday… it’s tough. Unfortunately, he’s just tweaked it there a little bit I think."
You just know their fella will be back quicker than ours
in Jackett’s interview he said their fella felt his hamstring at half time so they took him off
Bowyer said ‘he (Famewo) was tight the other night. We thought It might be from his back and with it being Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday… it’s tough. Unfortunately, he’s just tweaked it there a little bit I think."
You just know their fella will be back quicker than ours
So would you have dropped him and played Pratley in his place?
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The referee, of course, is the sole arbiter and his decision is always final. After an offence, this what he must consider before making his decision:
This is what the Laws of the game say: Law 12 -Fouls and misconduct
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
Would you consider that Pratley's offence was considered by the referee to be:
a) careless
b) reckless
c) using excessive force
NB: You may refer to my post (re Law 12) above.
I know, that has no place on a football forum.
What is that saying about converts being the most strident supporters of a cause.
As the bloke has pointed out from the podcast, whats impressive about us at the moment is we're barely even giving sides chances to score
Its not even last ditch defending like what we saw @ Portsmouth in 18/19 with Lapslie taking it in the face
Bowyer said ‘he (Famewo) was tight the other night. We thought It might be from his back and with it being Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday… it’s tough. Unfortunately, he’s just tweaked it there a little bit I think."
You just know their fella will be back quicker than ours
Don't quite understand that.
http://thepompeychimes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78777&sid=48be5f039155e8fb350fdf95faf4d5f6
Interesting that they didn't mention the Pratley challenge, and Jackett didn't make much out of it either, but then he's always been a classy manager