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Ronnie Schwartz (Page 73 - contract cancelled)
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SamB09 said:Anyone else have a feeling that Ronnie and Stockley will
be our striker partnership this season?
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I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season37
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Will certainly be interesting seeing him get a full pre season9
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The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.10 -
It's even worse than that when you consider his last manager in Denmark wouldn't pick him either.Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.2 -
He got dropped for putting in a transfer request to us.SantaClaus said:
It's even worse than that when you consider his last manager in Denmark wouldn't pick him either.Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.1 -
Unbelievable people still defending this signing which consigned us to another season in this awful awful division11
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I think that's unlikely as he only played a hand full of games for Midtjylland before the take over. Unless he really wanted to come to us under Elliottttttt.........Dazzler21 said:
He got dropped for putting in a transfer request to us.SantaClaus said:
It's even worse than that when you consider his last manager in Denmark wouldn't pick him either.Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.0 -
It was a terrible signing and like others have said really could have been difference of getting in the playoffs.
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We did waste valuable budget on him, when CBs were needed.addick1956 said:
He did that on his own ? Nothing to do with no CB's, Doherty getting injured, Lee Bowyer losing it at the end then?bolloxbolder said:Unbelievable people still defending this signing which consigned us to another season in this awful awful division1 -
Except Bowyer in his wisdom stated on record that there definitely weren't any CBs available anywhere at all who might be better than playing an aging midfielder out of position.Croydon said:
We did waste valuable budget on him, when CBs were needed.addick1956 said:
He did that on his own ? Nothing to do with no CB's, Doherty getting injured, Lee Bowyer losing it at the end then?bolloxbolder said:Unbelievable people still defending this signing which consigned us to another season in this awful awful division9 -
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.0 -
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.1 -
Judging Jackson’s managerial decisions based over 90 mins isn’t a fair reflectionCafc43v3r said:
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.1 -
It is true nonetheless…Todds_right_hook said:
Judging Jackson’s managerial decisions based over 90 mins isn’t a fair reflectionCafc43v3r said:
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.0 -
Wonder if this signing did the trick of sending Bowyer over the edge and off to Birmingham?0
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It is too soon to write him off. He has barely played any minutes at all and we don’t see what happens in training.A number of players can come good after they initially arrive.1
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I see a lot of people judging him on games where he never got the ball than the games where he did.
In my view, when he did get it, he looked excellent technically and showed some great vision and passing and is no doubt a top finisher.
The larger question is whether there is much room in the game for a poacher, much less at the forefront of Adkins lone striker formations.4 -
Someone on CL unearthed stats revealing that in the game at Burton, IIRC, Schwartz came on as sub and 'played' for about 20 minutes without even touching the ball. An extraordinary feat, repeated in a sub appearance of about ten minutes in another game. Let's face it, the Danish pastry is flaky.
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Literally one post later1
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I played on a charity golf day in the early 200o’s and we had a former director in our group (I can’t remember his name - simmonds?). He said that all players are given 6 months to bed in and settle and are not always expected to hit the ground runningvalleynick66 said:It is too soon to write him off. He has barely played any minutes at all and we don’t see what happens in training.A number of players can come good after they initially arrive.1 -
This does not conform to charltonlife logic!Todds_right_hook said:
I played on a charity golf day in the early 200o’s and we had a former director in our group (I can’t remember his name - simmonds?). He said that all players are given 6 months to bed in and settle and are not always expected to hit the ground runningvalleynick66 said:It is too soon to write him off. He has barely played any minutes at all and we don’t see what happens in training.A number of players can come good after they initially arrive.0 -
If we had to judge Bale on that last Wales performance what would we all think?
Im not suggesting our Ronnie is in the same league, good pun, but using it to pose the question…0 -
True, but he was in charge for one match, impossible to give him "a run of games".Cafc43v3r said:
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.1 -
No of course but I often think if 3 different people agree on something they are more likely right than if 1 thought differently.cafcfan1990 said:
True, but he was in charge for one match, impossible to give him "a run of games".Cafc43v3r said:
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.
Bowyer seemed less confident in playing DJ, Adkins preferred Matthews to Gunter as an example.
If 3 managers deem him unselectable I would think they are probably right.0 -
Wouldn’t it be better to write him off? That way, if he miraculously turns out to be decent we have a lovely surprise and if he doesn’t then we’ve set our expectations accordingly.valleynick66 said:It is too soon to write him off. He has barely played any minutes at all and we don’t see what happens in training.A number of players can come good after they initially arrive.0 -
Yes I agree, but Jackson had one game so shouldn't be counted as a manager who didn't fancy him. I think it's enough that Adkins really didn't fancy giving him a game though, particularly when we were short and needed a goal. There was the issue of settling though, I wouldn't be surprised if he fancies giving him pre-season and then there's a chance he'll leave towards the end of the window.Cafc43v3r said:
No of course but I often think if 3 different people agree on something they are more likely right than if 1 thought differently.cafcfan1990 said:
True, but he was in charge for one match, impossible to give him "a run of games".Cafc43v3r said:
Jackson didn't start him either. Did he even bring him on?cafcfan1990 said:
Three?Cafc43v3r said:
The managers see him in training every day, we don't. All 3 of them didn't see fit to give him a "run of games". The longer he was here the less time he spent on the pitch. He didn't rip up the u23 game he played did he?AndyG said:I dont get the negativity about him. He never actually got a run of games last season did he. I would like to see him start a few games and then see what he is about. Ok he missed a penalty but that's hardly a reason to assume he is rubbish imo. He might just be the perfect player to pick up the balls in the area that we were lacking last season
I suspect if it was a match fitness/sharpness issue he might have got a few more u23 games, especially when we had no intention of using him in the 1st team.
It's not good when you are one of only two available strikers at the club and your on the bench, at home, in a nil nil, when your allowed to make 5 subs and you don't even get on.
Bowyer seemed less confident in playing DJ, Adkins preferred Matthews to Gunter as an example.
If 3 managers deem him unselectable I would think they are probably right.0 -
Ronnie had 13 appearances as a sub clocking up 270 minutes and started5 games for a total of 203 minutes. He was given marks in 6 games with an average of 5.86, in two games he received a mark of 7.20. He had 6 shots a goal, 3 on target, 2 blocked and 1 missed and scored once.
He really wasn't given much of a chance and I hope he is given that chance in pre season and proves you doubters wrong.8 -
He has got to prove the manager wrong before he gets the chance.........lancashire lad said:Ronnie had 13 appearances as a sub clocking up 270 minutes and started5 games for a total of 203 minutes. He was given marks in 6 games with an average of 5.86, in two games he received a mark of 7.20. He had 6 shots a goal, 3 on target, 2 blocked and 1 missed and scored once.
He really wasn't given much of a chance and I hoopoe he is given that chance in pre season and proves you doubters wrong.3
