Quite a few people on Twitter are calling for Sandgaard to sack Bowyer and appoint Karl Robinson....
I've got a small feeling a lot of people will be disappointed with Sandgaard's next choice as Manager
It really wouldn’t surprise me if the next man in charge comes from the Danish leagues.
Second time I've seen this said on this forum, and there's really no basis for it. Think some of you were so burned by Roland, that you just expect everything to be negative. Sandgaard's entire Charlton SMT is people with English football experience, why tf would he go against that trend with a punt on a manager?
Just not true at all. I’d have no issue with him appointing a Danish manager so how am I expecting everything to be negative?
Sandgaard has a lot of people in Denmark he’s turning to for advice and he’s a big admirer of Thomas Frank at Brentford, someone he’s spoken to multiple times since taking over. We also saw how desperate he was to get Ronnie Schwartz into the club.
I’ve spoken to his son enough to see how much they both admire Danish people in football and Danish football in general. Roland appointed Belgians because it was easy, Sandgaard would do it because he believes it’s the best thing for the club.
But Roland lives in Belgium, and at the time already owned Belgian clubs like Liege and STTV. He was heavily involved in Belgian football before he took us over, appointing managers at his existing clubs.
Sandgaard has lived in America for 25 years, he has no involvement in Danish football, he's never owned a club there. I'd be staggered if he plucked someone out of Denmark to be the next manager, when surely Roddy is the person who would have more say.
Sandgaard is a professional, he would look to his employed professionals for advice.
He (in my opinion) would not try to manage the club himself. He has hired people he can trust to do so.
Quite a few people on Twitter are calling for Sandgaard to sack Bowyer and appoint Karl Robinson....
I've got a small feeling a lot of people will be disappointed with Sandgaard's next choice as Manager
It really wouldn’t surprise me if the next man in charge comes from the Danish leagues.
Second time I've seen this said on this forum, and there's really no basis for it. Think some of you were so burned by Roland, that you just expect everything to be negative. Sandgaard's entire Charlton SMT is people with English football experience, why tf would he go against that trend with a punt on a manager?
Just not true at all. I’d have no issue with him appointing a Danish manager so how am I expecting everything to be negative?
Sandgaard has a lot of people in Denmark he’s turning to for advice and he’s a big admirer of Thomas Frank at Brentford, someone he’s spoken to multiple times since taking over. We also saw how desperate he was to get Ronnie Schwartz into the club.
I’ve spoken to his son enough to see how much they both admire Danish people in football and Danish football in general. Roland appointed Belgians because it was easy, Sandgaard would do it because he believes it’s the best thing for the club.
But Roland lives in Belgium, and at the time already owned Belgian clubs like Liege and STTV. He was heavily involved in Belgian football before he took us over, appointing managers at his existing clubs.
Sandgaard has lived in America for 25 years, he has no involvement in Danish football, he's never owned a club there. I'd be staggered if he plucked someone out of Denmark to be the next manager, when surely Roddy is the person who would have more say.
To be fair, I'm not the one making parallels between Roland and Sandgaard. Whatever Roland did was irrelevant to the situation we're in.
Despite living in America, Sandgaard still has a lot of connections in Danish football. One of those connections is the Brentford and Midtjylland owner. I'm sure Roddy plays a role in decision making but ultimately it's up to the owner and what the owner wants to see.
If there's an exciting young Danish manager out there, I really believe Sandgaard would be a lot keener on getting someone like that rather than the likes of Paul Cook.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
People can knock the likes Accrington all they want,but football history throws up many comparisons where smallish clubs seemingly over perform.One of the main reasons is Luck with injuries and also having much smaller squads,resisting the need to change the team every time a bad result comes along.If a competent manager (John Coleman) comes along ,gets a group of players all singing on the same hymn sheet,(Lincoln) then good results can follow.Now last year we did not have a big enough squad,this year,I think,too many midfielders ,the temptation always there to keep changing.Liverpool once won the league (42 games) using 14 players.A prime if very old example of getting a group of mediocre players performing is The Ipswich title winning side under Ramsey .They had a 38 year old winger who had one job,in the box to big forwards who did the rest.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
Deji and Pearce aren't good enough to make the play-offs. It's hard to get anywhere with a weakness like that in the spine of the team. Would they get in any of the teams above us? I don't think so. Pearce might be lucky to get in any of the teams in the bottom 5. I would certainly swap Gillingham's CBs for them, one of them in particular looked very handy.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
No you are deluded. Look where we were in this shit division in November. Bowyer, who apparently should know, told us as the players get to gell in training, we would become better.
We all need to deal with the here and now. The squad is plenty good enough to do better than 21 points from the last 18 games.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
Take off your rose tinted glasses and face facts. With the players Bowyer has at his disposal we are underachieving.
In one of, if not the worst league ones for a years.
Can’t defend it.
Very poor, Accrington ahead of us ffs. Accrington.
Really hate that attitude tbh. Clubs like Accrington and Lincoln have been well run for a number of years, with minimal changes and an underlying stability and no doubt working to a strategic plan. The salary cap in this league makes it a massive leveller which these type of clubs will benefit from.
Dont forget in previous years we have been that Accrington or Lincoln in other leagues and scoffed at the ‘big club mentality’ towards little Charlton.
In one of, if not the worst league ones for a years.
Can’t defend it.
Very poor, Accrington ahead of us ffs. Accrington.
Really hate that attitude tbh. Clubs like Accrington and Lincoln have been well run for a number of years, with minimal changes and an underlying stability and no doubt working to a strategic plan. The salary cap in this league makes it a massive leveller which these type of clubs will benefit from.
Dont forget in previous years we have been that Accrington or Lincoln in other leagues and scoffed at the ‘big club mentality’ towards little Charlton.
To be fair it was said slightly in jest, and i do like John Coleman (although they are/were a dirty horrible side). However, Bowyer saying we’re overachieving is taking the piss in my opinion. We don’t have a divine right to be above anyone, but we should be above Accrington if you compare our squad/budget etc
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
Deji and Pearce aren't good enough to make the play-offs. It's hard to get anywhere with a weakness like that in the spine of the team. Would they get in any of the teams above us? I don't think so. Pearce might be lucky to get in any of the teams in the bottom 5. I would certainly swap Gillingham's CBs for them, one of them in particular looked very handy.
So why didn't lord Bowyer strength in Jan? It was obvious to every single person who watched us before Jan that we needed strengthening there and we failed to do anything.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
Deji and Pearce aren't good enough to make the play-offs. It's hard to get anywhere with a weakness like that in the spine of the team. Would they get in any of the teams above us? I don't think so. Pearce might be lucky to get in any of the teams in the bottom 5. I would certainly swap Gillingham's CBs for them, one of them in particular looked very handy.
So why didn't lord Bowyer strength in Jan? It was obvious to every single person who watched us before Jan that we needed strengthening there and we failed to do anything.
Him and Gallen both said there weren't any better CBs available under the cap.
There is no point me posting the breakdown of the Lincoln squad yet again, as the people with their heads in the sand will still insist their line up is Man City-esque in comparison to our bunch of non league journeymen...... it is so painfully and blatantly obvious this group of players should be doing better than it is. FFS Doncaster and Accrington - 2 teams above us are taking each other on with two players (Bogle and Smyth) that were deemed not good enough by us!
What more needs to happen for us to see we are underachieving in epic proportions?!
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
Fair point. I would expect it to be slow to start with and then get better as the employees gained experience. When the team was thrown together, we went on a great run. As the players have settled in, we have got a lot worse, and that is the concern.
Maybe expectations grew a bit unrealistically given our form when the transfer window closed. But to get worse is no excuse, you cannot tell me that this group of players aren't good enough to compete at the top end of League 1. We may have "thrown the team together in two weeks" but a lot of those players were longer term targets so I don't see it as a major excuse.
If we had started slow and were getting better I could accept that, but I don't see any excuses for our form over the last couple of months.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
Deji and Pearce aren't good enough to make the play-offs. It's hard to get anywhere with a weakness like that in the spine of the team. Would they get in any of the teams above us? I don't think so. Pearce might be lucky to get in any of the teams in the bottom 5. I would certainly swap Gillingham's CBs for them, one of them in particular looked very handy.
So why didn't lord Bowyer strength in Jan? It was obvious to every single person who watched us before Jan that we needed strengthening there and we failed to do anything.
Him and Gallen both said they weren't any better CBs available under the cap.
We had budget to sign stockley, we signed Schwartz we signed smith. Whilst all are good players, at least one should have been a defender. I struggle to believe there wasn’t one player we could get that was better than Deji or Pearce, they are garbage.
I still can't get my head around that some people can't seem to comprehend the situation our club was in over the summer.
-Relegation -Loss of most of our first team -Transfer embargo / wage cap -Team thrown together in 2 weeks -Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
This squad is more than capable of play offs, we are getting turned over week on week by teams worse than us, that is the issue.
Deji and Pearce aren't good enough to make the play-offs. It's hard to get anywhere with a weakness like that in the spine of the team. Would they get in any of the teams above us? I don't think so. Pearce might be lucky to get in any of the teams in the bottom 5. I would certainly swap Gillingham's CBs for them, one of them in particular looked very handy.
So why didn't lord Bowyer strength in Jan? It was obvious to every single person who watched us before Jan that we needed strengthening there and we failed to do anything.
Him and Gallen both said they weren't any better CBs available under the cap.
We had budget to sign stockley, we signed Schwartz we signed smith. Whilst all are good players, at least one should have been a defender. I struggle to believe there wasn’t one player we could get that was better than Deji or Pearce, they are garbage.
You agree that they're garbage but yet we should still be competing up the top? I don't understand.
No one is “deluded” FFS, it’s just a difference of opinion about who should be manager of Charlton Athletic, calm yourselves down.
It's not even that. Sam is saying we are not underachieving, doesn't necessarily have to be about keeping or getting rid of Bowyer. Whether you are keep Bowyer or not, I struggle to see how people feel 9th and falling away is acceptable.
This season has echos of when Chris Powell took over from Parky. I'm pro Bowyer, as I've said before I think some of the big names have let him down, salary cap, injuries have all affected our season. I also think he has made many many mistakes and has made too many knee jerk reactions (half time subs, slagging players off in the press etc) I don't believe he has faith in the squad and the over achieving comment after Gillingham hinted at this. Some will say he put the squad together etc but I also think some players who we all probably thought were nailed on to perform haven't. Watson, Gunter, Matthews, Pearce, Gilbey to name a few haven't performed consistently and when your older "proven" pros aren't doing it things become increasingly difficult. I'm backing Bowyer for a full summer transfer window and pre season. I'd like to see him get rid off the players that aren't up to it and also bring in some young hungry players who could improve us. Bishop & Baxter have really impressed me at Accrington.
What we're seeing is the best players dont instantly make the best squads
Why havent Belgium, apparently the best team in International Football won a Major Tournament yet?
Hence why when Leeds and West Ham each got relegated from the Premier League the opinion always was: "They're too good to go down"
As I've questioned a few times this season, Bowyer effectively had two / three weeks to put a whole new squad together, all the while under a Salary Cap. Yes it was his choice to sign the likes of Gunter and Watson on high wages but the risk of utilising experience with youth doesnt appear to be working on this occasion.
People may not like it but on that basis, yes we are over achieving, a squad put together in such short notice against squads that have been together a lot longer and we probably are punching above our weight because they've got the benefit of having familiarity of playing together. I find the notion of the best team with the best budget, especially at this level extremely prehistoric - Even the likes of Darren Pratley have said in the last week how its been difficult for new signings to gel because the squad havent been able to go for a meal and get to know each other properly, what happens off the pitch appears to be so massively ignored by fans to an extent.
Wasnt it David Wagner and Huddersfield who went to some extremely remote part of Norway or Sweden where they basically fended for themselves the whole time, it created a squad of players that were close, could trust each other and won promotion to the Premier League
Its why I'm sticking to my guns that Bowyer should be given one last build with a proper pre-season where there is time for the players to work on things without the consequences of competitive fixtures, combined with being to head off somewhere, even if its the Belfrey again so whatever new team has the opportunity to get to know each other
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He (in my opinion) would not try to manage the club himself. He has hired people he can trust to do so.
That is, that it's not just about results, but the circumstances the manager is managing in at the time.
We completely agree.
Despite living in America, Sandgaard still has a lot of connections in Danish football. One of those connections is the Brentford and Midtjylland owner. I'm sure Roddy plays a role in decision making but ultimately it's up to the owner and what the owner wants to see.
If there's an exciting young Danish manager out there, I really believe Sandgaard would be a lot keener on getting someone like that rather than the likes of Paul Cook.
Interesting article..
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9th
-Relegation
-Loss of most of our first team
-Transfer embargo / wage cap
-Team thrown together in 2 weeks
-Injuries (I'm aware every team has them)
If anyone here thought we would have a successful season then you are deluded. Some of the players we signed on frees were mostly out of necessity that nobody wanted (see the ones who have left), this whole club needs a rebuild and stability from top to bottom. That doesn't take 6 months.
Bowyer has done some odd things but the situation permits, as the saying goes. I think some football fans (definitely on the forum) live in this magical dream world where everything is like Football Manager. Imagine at the end of each year your whole workplace was turned over from top to bottom
We all need to deal with the here and now. The squad is plenty good enough to do better than 21 points from the last 18 games.
With the players Bowyer has at his disposal we are underachieving.
Dont forget in previous years we have been that Accrington or Lincoln in other leagues and scoffed at the ‘big club mentality’ towards little Charlton.
What more needs to happen for us to see we are underachieving in epic proportions?!
Maybe expectations grew a bit unrealistically given our form when the transfer window closed. But to get worse is no excuse, you cannot tell me that this group of players aren't good enough to compete at the top end of League 1. We may have "thrown the team together in two weeks" but a lot of those players were longer term targets so I don't see it as a major excuse.
If we had started slow and were getting better I could accept that, but I don't see any excuses for our form over the last couple of months.
I'm backing Bowyer for a full summer transfer window and pre season. I'd like to see him get rid off the players that aren't up to it and also bring in some young hungry players who could improve us. Bishop & Baxter have really impressed me at Accrington.
Why havent Belgium, apparently the best team in International Football won a Major Tournament yet?
Hence why when Leeds and West Ham each got relegated from the Premier League the opinion always was: "They're too good to go down"
As I've questioned a few times this season, Bowyer effectively had two / three weeks to put a whole new squad together, all the while under a Salary Cap. Yes it was his choice to sign the likes of Gunter and Watson on high wages but the risk of utilising experience with youth doesnt appear to be working on this occasion.
People may not like it but on that basis, yes we are over achieving, a squad put together in such short notice against squads that have been together a lot longer and we probably are punching above our weight because they've got the benefit of having familiarity of playing together. I find the notion of the best team with the best budget, especially at this level extremely prehistoric - Even the likes of Darren Pratley have said in the last week how its been difficult for new signings to gel because the squad havent been able to go for a meal and get to know each other properly, what happens off the pitch appears to be so massively ignored by fans to an extent.
Wasnt it David Wagner and Huddersfield who went to some extremely remote part of Norway or Sweden where they basically fended for themselves the whole time, it created a squad of players that were close, could trust each other and won promotion to the Premier League
Its why I'm sticking to my guns that Bowyer should be given one last build with a proper pre-season where there is time for the players to work on things without the consequences of competitive fixtures, combined with being to head off somewhere, even if its the Belfrey again so whatever new team has the opportunity to get to know each other