Blaming Bowyer for our relegation is complex. We can blame him for promotion in the first place, we can blame him for keeping our heads above water through the injuries and we can blame him for being a bit too negative at the death when it turned out we only needed a point.
Did you watch I Am Not Your Guru on NetFlix recently by any chance?
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
If you're going to troll everyone with your sarcasm every time anyone questions Bowyer on this thread it's going to become even more boring than it already is.
This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
If you're going to troll everyone with your sarcasm every time anyone questions Bowyer on this thread it's going to become even more boring than it already is.
This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
I’m just doubling down baby. If I’m wrong about everything you can have my head!
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
With the caveat of games played. Which obviously suggests stronger starts and harsher falls away for those with more games that are nearer the bottom.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
If you're going to troll everyone with your sarcasm every time anyone questions Bowyer on this thread it's going to become even more boring than it already is.
This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
Be intresting if he is still above Powell in 11 games time. Needs to win 5 of them.
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
Blaming Bowyer for our relegation is complex. We can blame him for promotion in the first place, we can blame him for keeping our heads above water through the injuries and we can blame him for being a bit too negative at the death when it turned out we only needed a point.
I gave up reading this thread, with the same people saying the say things, numerous times every day of every week, but in fairness this is a new angle.
I remember a very shitty afternoon at the new Den towards the end of the Steve n Alan era, of people wanting them out, and then upset that summer, that both of them weren't sacked
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
I am more surprised that Fraeye is above Peters.
He got a lot of draws, but I'm still shocked at how poor Russell Slade's win percentage is
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
I am more surprised that Fraeye is above Peters.
He got a lot of draws, but I'm still shocked at how poor Russell Slade's win percentage is
Never wanted either of Slade or Robinson in the first place
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
I am more surprised that Fraeye is above Peters.
He got a lot of draws, but I'm still shocked at how poor Russell Slade's win percentage is
Never wanted either of Slade or Robinson in the first place
Me neither but at least they had experience in the English game, weren’t out of the Douchbag’s pool of employees and we avoided Nobby Vinegar getting the gig.
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
I'd say its more about the players than the manager.
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
Just a shame Bulot had to deal with injury and the African Nations Cup so we only really benefited from that February / March onwards with him
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
Just a shame Bulot had to deal with injury and the African Nations Cup so we only really benefited from that February / March onwards with him
Didn't we have an agreement in place to sign him, before we lost out?
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
Just a shame Bulot had to deal with injury and the African Nations Cup so we only really benefited from that February / March onwards with him
Didn't we have an agreement in place to sign him, before we lost out?
God knows what happened with him signing permanently
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
Luzon wasn’t too bad a manager tbh, quite liked him!
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
Luzon wasn’t too bad a manager tbh, quite liked him!
Certainly had spirit and the players liked him I believe.
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
I forgot about Igor!! He had one season when he was a goal machine, correct? Then perm injured, that's how I remember it
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
I forgot about Igor!! He had one season when he was a goal machine, correct? Then perm injured, that's how I remember it
He had less than half a season and I remember people saying they were worried a big prem club would come in for him like Chelsea, the same Chelsea that had Costa, Remy and Drogba on their books at the time. Lol
The fact that Guy Luzon lucked his way to a win percentage of 32% shows you that sometimes it ain’t all about the manager sometimes but the players on the pitch.
When we had Bulot, Watt, Igor and JBG we were fantastic to watch.
I forgot about Igor!! He had one season when he was a goal machine, correct? Then perm injured, that's how I remember it
His glory period was at the start, under Peeters
Luzon seemed to get the best out of Tony Watt, that period at the end of 2014/15 (including the famous sequence where he kept the ball against Forest) made him a real cult hero
So Karel Fraeye's win ratio (at the same Div 2 level too) is the same as Bob Stokoe's and only slightly worse than Eddie Firmani's! While Guy Luzon's is the 14th best overall...
I am more surprised that Fraeye is above Peters.
He got a lot of draws, but I'm still shocked at how poor Russell Slade's win percentage is
Never wanted either of Slade or Robinson in the first place
Robinson is a decent enough manager at L1 level. He does have a promotion under his belt after all so was probably the most "qualified" of all the Roland appointments (including Bowyer)
Robinson did a lot of good at the club. He persisted with a formation that wasn't working and you can draw some parallels with the current manager. The problem he faced was similar to what many managers face. He got in a rut and couldn't see the wood for the trees at the end. Bowyer came in and changed things and we started winning with the same players.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
If you're going to troll everyone with your sarcasm every time anyone questions Bowyer on this thread it's going to become even more boring than it already is.
This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
But all games played in second or third tier, as opposed to many in top tier with Curbs and another fella.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
If you're going to troll everyone with your sarcasm every time anyone questions Bowyer on this thread it's going to become even more boring than it already is.
This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
But all games played in second or third tier, as opposed to many in top tier with Curbs and another fella.
You can only use the stats, the players at disposal would have also differed greatly depending on the level played.
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This is a forum for discussing Charlton & this is a thread discussing whether Bowyer has or has not lost 'it' whatever that may be.
Why not add to the discussion with facts or opinions about the subject?
By the way we've had 30 managers since 1920 with recorded stats, of which the best win ratio in all comps is as follows:
If you limit this to those that have played 150 games in all comps (Bowyer's actual tally) the ratio table is as follows:
Or 100 games
Bowyer's win % is falling but is still currently above the vast majority of our managers.
Luzon seemed to get the best out of Tony Watt, that period at the end of 2014/15 (including the famous sequence where he kept the ball against Forest) made him a real cult hero