It's a very good record considering we just got relegated.
But with the mood on the board at the moment, you could post a picture of Aneke holding a bunch of roses and it would end up getting twisted against LB somehow.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Which leads me to laugh at you lot calling for him to go! Talking of Lee learning from lessons, we as fans need to learn.....we got what we wished for when Curbs left....look where that got us.......
Which leads me to laugh at you lot calling for him to go! Talking of Lee learning from lessons, we as fans need to learn.....we got what we wished for when Curbs left....look where that got us.......
Which leads me to laugh at you lot calling for him to go! Talking of Lee learning from lessons, we as fans need to learn.....we got what we wished for when Curbs left....look where that got us.......
who wished for curbs to go? I know so called Charlton supporters who have not stepped foot inside the valley since relegation from the prem. from memory, these were the people who wanted curbs out, not the die hardest who still follow the club now.
Which leads me to laugh at you lot calling for him to go! Talking of Lee learning from lessons, we as fans need to learn.....we got what we wished for when Curbs left....look where that got us.......
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
Since October 19 2020 its 18 wins in 62 so take it back 3 games and it's 19 wins in 65.
Third tier of English football where wins should come easier !!
Why should it?
We are in div 3 with a div 3 squad....as are the other teams.
I don't see (generally) why it is easier to win in Div 3 with a Div 3 squad - than it would be to win in the Premier with a Premier squad?!?
Because clubs have a natural level due to their level of support and income, meaning that in the PL we are a small club and in L1 a big club.
When we were in the PL under Curbs (and even more so in the Div 1 days under Lennie) we were a small club. Man U, Chelsea etc all had far bigger budgets than us, so naturally the win ratio goes down.
Conversely in L1 we are a big club, as we have higher support and income that most of the other clubs, hence the win ratio should go up. Accrington's ground hold 5500 fans in total, we have stands bigger than that.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
What a surprise that his win rate has deteriorated so much after of a season of competing in the Championship with a weaker squad than he had in League 1.
His win rate was 56% in the Wembley season, compared to 43% this season. That's a relevant comparison. Comparing his win rate in League 1 with his win rate in the Championship is not. Any manager will look bad if you assess him that way.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
What a surprise that his win rate has deteriorated so much after of a season of competing in the Championship with a weaker squad than he had in League 1.
His win rate was 56% in the Wembley season, compared to 43% this season. That's a relevant comparison. Comparing his win rate in League 1 with his win rate in the Championship is not. Any manager will look bad if you assess him that way.
okay, compare this season with the last league 1 season and a drop of 13% is a significant drop.
Win ratios only tell half the story , Lennie Lawrence is well down the table but he performed miracles getting Charlton in the top flight.
Now this table proves without a shadow of a doubt that Nelson was a better manager than Curbishley and significantly better than Lennie Lawrence. Facts I tell you, facts.
If people don’t realise now what a god Curbishley is then they’re not worth the typing off my fingers . I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory . Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
If people don’t realise now what a god Curbishley is then they’re not worth the typing off my fingers . I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory . Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
Yep. People said he'd taken us as far as he could and that we should get someone to take us to the next level. I suppose we did, in a way! The next level down. And then the next one after that.
If people don’t realise now what a god Curbishley is then they’re not worth the typing off my fingers . I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory . Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
Yep. People said he'd taken us as far as he could and that we should get someone to take us to the next level. I suppose we did, in a way! The next level down. And then the next one after that.
My recollection was it was just a few gobshites on Talksport peddling that shite. Media have since turned it into the entire fanbase
If people don’t realise now what a god Curbishley is then they’re not worth the typing off my fingers . I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory . Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
Yep. People said he'd taken us as far as he could and that we should get someone to take us to the next level. I suppose we did, in a way! The next level down. And then the next one after that.
My recollection was it was just a few gobshites on Talksport peddling that shite. Media have since turned it into the entire fanbase
Didnt help as well they got Bill Curbishley on the radio a few times telling us how ungrateful we were
Which leads me to laugh at you lot calling for him to go! Talking of Lee learning from lessons, we as fans need to learn.....we got what we wished for when Curbs left....look where that got us.......
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
Since October 19 2020 its 18 wins in 62 so take it back 3 games and it's 19 wins in 65.
Them the facts.
Hello last season, is that you?
12 wins out of 28 games... isn’t great... Sunderland have 11 wins and are head of us.
Let’s do what they do and sack manager after manager
A lot of owners would have given there manager the sack by now,perhaps Thomas might not be that sort of owner,I just hope Thomas is right because if we don't go up it could be harder next season
If people don’t realise now what a god Curbishley is then they’re not worth the typing off my fingers . I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory . Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
Yep. People said he'd taken us as far as he could and that we should get someone to take us to the next level. I suppose we did, in a way! The next level down. And then the next one after that.
He could of taken us to the next level but his ambition wasn't high enough or it didn't seem to be anyway. I was one that was fed up with this '40 point and we're safe' rhetoric. As Graham Stewart himself said maybe Curbs should of started saying 'right lads this season 50 points minimum' and so on.
Just wished that instead of giving that money to Dowie to spend we gave it to Curbs, think that might of got us to that next level. certainly wouldn't of got us relegated.
Why do you need to see the first 65 and last 65? I think you know what you’re looking for lol
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
For a comparison.
Bowyer should be looking at these stats and go back to what he did in the first 65 games. As a guess, I would say bowyer has a win rate of less than 30% since Wembley and around 50% before that. That’s a massive drop.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
Since October 19 2020 its 18 wins in 62 so take it back 3 games and it's 19 wins in 65.
Them the facts.
Hello last season, is that you?
12 wins out of 28 games... isn’t great... Sunderland have 11 wins and are head of us.
Let’s do what they do and sack manager after manager
Someone asked for the last 65 games I gave it to them, I didn't offer an opinion or commentary.
Blaming Bowyer for our relegation is complex. We can blame him for promotion in the first place, we can blame him for keeping our heads above water through the injuries and we can blame him for being a bit too negative at the death when it turned out we only needed a point.
I gave up reading this thread, with the same people saying the same things, numerous times every day of every week, but in fairness this is a new angle.
Blaming Bowyer for our relegation is complex. We can blame him for promotion in the first place, we can blame him for keeping our heads above water through the injuries and we can blame him for being a bit too negative at the death when it turned out we only needed a point.
I gave up reading this thread, with the same people saying the say things, numerous times every day of every week, but in fairness this is a new angle.
Lee Bowyer now getting blamed for promotion!
Personally I do blame him for keeping our heads above water 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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or what dazzler said
Let’s look at his win ratio in the last 1 game(s)... it’s 0%... he must go
We are in div 3 with a div 3 squad....as are the other teams.
I don't see (generally) why it is easier to win in Div 3 with a Div 3 squad - than it would be to win in the Premier with a Premier squad?!?
Must be pretty similar?
But with the mood on the board at the moment, you could post a picture of Aneke holding a bunch of roses and it would end up getting twisted against LB somehow.
Do you think a win rate of 30% is good enough?
Them the facts.
When we were in the PL under Curbs (and even more so in the Div 1 days under Lennie) we were a small club. Man U, Chelsea etc all had far bigger budgets than us, so naturally the win ratio goes down.
Conversely in L1 we are a big club, as we have higher support and income that most of the other clubs, hence the win ratio should go up. Accrington's ground hold 5500 fans in total, we have stands bigger than that.
we are clearly a bigger fish in the third tier than in the Championship or top flight
we’ve never been relegated from the third tier
and been promoted from it within 3 seasons maximum on the 5 times we got relegated in to it after first achieving promotion from it in 1929
His win rate was 56% in the Wembley season, compared to 43% this season. That's a relevant comparison. Comparing his win rate in League 1 with his win rate in the Championship is not. Any manager will look bad if you assess him that way.
I warned everyone it was all over when he left and top flight football would become a distant memory .
Lennie , Curbs and Seed can be mentioned in the same managerial breath but these others aren’t fit to wipe the snot off their noses when it comes to football management .
Media have since turned it into the entire fanbase
12 wins out of 28 games... isn’t great... Sunderland have 11 wins and are head of us.
I was one that was fed up with this '40 point and we're safe' rhetoric. As Graham Stewart himself said maybe Curbs should of started saying 'right lads this season 50 points minimum' and so on.
Just wished that instead of giving that money to Dowie to spend we gave it to Curbs, think that might of got us to that next level. certainly wouldn't of got us relegated.
Lee Bowyer now getting blamed for promotion!