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Has Bowyer lost it?
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Harris it is then.😉1
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Steve Evans at this level is excellent.5
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Now we’re getting there!ElfsborgAddick said:Steve Evans at this level is excellent.0 -
I know the suggestion of Howe has got a few lol’s but I don’t think it’s that ridiculous a suggestion. It would be up to Thomas to lay out his vision and sell it to him as a project. I think he’d at least sit down and listen.12
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I read earlier that Bristol City wanted him but he wants a Premier League job and is waiting for one. I expect it will be Palace. Either way, there is no chance he would come to us.LargeAddick said:I know the suggestion of Howe has got a few lol’s but I don’t think it’s that ridiculous a suggestion. It would be up to Thomas to lay out his vision and sell it to him as a project. I think he’d at least sit down and listen.2 -
I ski am sure there are better projects in the championship than the Charlton job0
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Eddie Howe turned us down in 2011 as a replacement for Parky can’t see him wanting to manage us now having established himself as a Premiership manager.2
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Dropping two divisions is a career wrecker should he fail.LargeAddick said:I know the suggestion of Howe has got a few lol’s but I don’t think it’s that ridiculous a suggestion. It would be up to Thomas to lay out his vision and sell it to him as a project. I think he’d at least sit down and listen.
Anyway, he'd never consider it.0 -
If we sacked Bowyer and replaced him with Steve Evans I am not joking, I will take a hiatus from football. That would be a shocking appointment
Howe no chance, needs to stop being mentioned.
Powell again, no from me. He played crap football towards the end and was negative like Lee has been, I don't think he's the right man even though I would want him to be.
Cowleys, why? Got promoted from league 2 and then jumped ship to Huddersfield, did dreadful and got sacked. Their fans said the football was as bad as when they had Powell from what I saw.
Only one I've seen that wouldn't be bad is Cook but even then I'm not sure.
If Lee goes I would like Curbs again, I think he still has it.5 -
Jesus, we've gone full circle Curbs - Powell - JJ - Euell - STEVE EVANS!!!! - Howe. I'm pretty sure none of them will be our next manager whenever Bowyer goes for various reasons
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He’d turn it down on the basis of the chip portions.Braziliance said:If we sacked Bowyer and replaced him with Steve Evans I am not joking, I will take a hiatus from football. That would be a shocking appointment0 -
Eddie Howe???
OPEN EVERYTHING BORIS, THE WORLD HAS GONE NUTS12 -
Wigan fan on Paul Cook’s style of play:
He’s played 4-2-3-1 almost every single game in the two and a half years he’s been here. He also likes a settled starting eleven which isn’t a bad thing, it’s something which has worked very well for us at times. Style wise it can be quite direct at times, which is one reason he was happy to let Grigg go - Paul definitely favours a big man up front.
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2019/10/11/20909478/interview-wigan-supporter-gives-his-honest-opinion-of-sunderland-managerial-candidate-paul-cook
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Karl Robinson had a beyond stubborn
4-2-3-1 back in the league one Roland days
Bowyer must have had a word!0 -
Replacing Bowyer is a tricky one for Sandgaard.
As others have said, it's improbable that he can bring someone like Howe in as part of the five-year Premier League plan (apologies to ForeverAddickted for my naivety), so Sandgaard will need to do it in two bites.
He needs an experienced manager who will guarantee to get us out of League 1 by the end of next season ... and who can help to build a potential Championship-winning squad ... but who is probably not interested in staying on for the long haul.
It's at that point that people like Howe, Scott Parker etc (pick your own names) might become interested in the 'Charlton Project' and the experienced manager can hand over the nucleus of Sandgaard's 'EuroCharlton'.1 -
Most have probably seen this but if not here is the link.
https://the72.co.uk/223168/short-memories-just-got-a-poor-squad-these-charlton-athletic-fans-are-still-behind-bowyer/
Apologies if this was posted elsewhere.1 -
Bowyer has my backing, I think we're in league one for the next 12 months minimum, 9th is where I think we will end up finishing, given a summer with no embargos, ab actual budget and no salary cap, ill judge where we are next January, if nothings changed I'll be saying it's time to go.
No the footballs not great and no we aren't performing. I don't think the squad is right and I think we lost some major personalities in our dressing room this summer.
Give him time, how many other managers in 3/4 years have had to completely rebuild a squad each summer of freebies and loans. The man has worked miracles and deserves our time and patience9 -
Steve Evans? The man should never have been allowed back into Football after his criminality at Boston0
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This 100% !!!!CAFCDAZ said:Bowyer has my backing, I think we're in league one for the next 12 months minimum, 9th is where I think we will end up finishing, given a summer with no embargos, ab actual budget and no salary cap, ill judge where we are next January, if nothings changed I'll be saying it's time to go.
No the footballs not great and no we aren't performing. I don't think the squad is right and I think we lost some major personalities in our dressing room this summer.
Give him time, how many other managers in 3/4 years have had to completely rebuild a squad each summer of freebies and loans. The man has worked miracles and deserves our time and patience
bored of all this bowyer out rubbish after everygame now0 -
Out of all the opposition teams this season I thought Doncaster Rovers played the best football. They ripped us apart at the Valley (I was lucky enough to be there) playing nice free flowing well organised football. We were never in with a shout. They seem to have done well all season until their recent dip. Not sure who there manager is, but if he could get us playing the way Donny did I’d be more than happy.A youngish, enthusiastic and progressive L1 manager who could cope in the Championship would be ok by me, it doesn’t have to be a well know name, or an ex Charlton player.0
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He hasn't worked miracles though has he, that's completely exaggerated. We had an excellent League 1 squad (he inherited a good group of players and in fairness made some good signings to add to that) and he quite rightly got us top 6. Promotion was an achievement, it always is when it's 46/49 games even if on paper the squad should achieve it. But then we were relegated last season, I don't blame it on him but getting relegated can never be a success, even with the difficult circumstances he had to work with. Now we are massively underachieving.CAFCDAZ said:Bowyer has my backing, I think we're in league one for the next 12 months minimum, 9th is where I think we will end up finishing, given a summer with no embargos, ab actual budget and no salary cap, ill judge where we are next January, if nothings changed I'll be saying it's time to go.
No the footballs not great and no we aren't performing. I don't think the squad is right and I think we lost some major personalities in our dressing room this summer.
Give him time, how many other managers in 3/4 years have had to completely rebuild a squad each summer of freebies and loans. The man has worked miracles and deserves our time and patience
If you are pro Bowyer I respect your view and actually, I can see a case for giving him another summer (I wouldn't but I can see the point). I don't agree he deserves loyalty for his past success when that success for me isn't that great.5 -
Darren Moore who I actually thought did ok at West Brom. They picked up under him in the Prem and were never going to stay up (10 points from safety when he was appointed in April). Was sacked when West Brom were 4th and Bilic went on to lose in the play offs. I've seen Donny twice and they played nice stuff both times.JamesSeed said:Out of all the opposition teams this season I thought Doncaster Rovers played the best football. They ripped us apart at the Valley (I was lucky enough to be there) playing nice free flowing well organised football. We were never in with a shout. They seem to have done well all season until their recent dip. Not sure who there manager is, but if he could get us playing the way Donny did I’d be more than happy.A youngish, enthusiastic and progressive L1 manager who could cope in the Championship would be ok by me, it doesn’t have to be a well know name, or an ex Charlton player.3 -
You think curbs still has it based on what ?Braziliance said:If we sacked Bowyer and replaced him with Steve Evans I am not joking, I will take a hiatus from football. That would be a shocking appointment
Howe no chance, needs to stop being mentioned.
Powell again, no from me. He played crap football towards the end and was negative like Lee has been, I don't think he's the right man even though I would want him to be.
Cowleys, why? Got promoted from league 2 and then jumped ship to Huddersfield, did dreadful and got sacked. Their fans said the football was as bad as when they had Powell from what I saw.
Only one I've seen that wouldn't be bad is Cook but even then I'm not sure.
If Lee goes I would like Curbs again, I think he still has it.His work record the last 10 years?1 -
Bring in a manager who plays a real system and build a squad to play it. Who is our Nuno Espirito Santo or Bielsa? I think that's got to be part of Roddy's role, identifying prospective head coaches out there who are innovative.
I really do not want to see a bog-standard league one manager who we will have to replace in a few years anyway. Find a manager who plays a real system and build to that system.7 -
Listen to him on the prematch program for VP. He talks so much sense and knows what it takes to put not just a squad of good players but also who gel together. The ex-players have so much respect for him as well. I would have Curbs with Euell as assistant and Brownie as defensive coach. What's Nigel Pearson doing nowadays? Thought he was treated poorly by WatfordMrOneLung said:
You think curbs still has it based on what ?Braziliance said:If we sacked Bowyer and replaced him with Steve Evans I am not joking, I will take a hiatus from football. That would be a shocking appointment
Howe no chance, needs to stop being mentioned.
Powell again, no from me. He played crap football towards the end and was negative like Lee has been, I don't think he's the right man even though I would want him to be.
Cowleys, why? Got promoted from league 2 and then jumped ship to Huddersfield, did dreadful and got sacked. Their fans said the football was as bad as when they had Powell from what I saw.
Only one I've seen that wouldn't be bad is Cook but even then I'm not sure.
If Lee goes I would like Curbs again, I think he still has it.His work record the last 10 years?0 -
How about George Graham? He'd sort us out defensively.ct_addick said:
Listen to him on the prematch program for VP. He talks so much sense and knows what it takes to put not just a squad of good players but also who gel together. The ex-players have so much respect for him as well. I would have Curbs with Euell as assistant and Brownie as defensive coach. What's Nigel Pearson doing nowadays? Thought he was treated poorly by WatfordMrOneLung said:
You think curbs still has it based on what ?Braziliance said:If we sacked Bowyer and replaced him with Steve Evans I am not joking, I will take a hiatus from football. That would be a shocking appointment
Howe no chance, needs to stop being mentioned.
Powell again, no from me. He played crap football towards the end and was negative like Lee has been, I don't think he's the right man even though I would want him to be.
Cowleys, why? Got promoted from league 2 and then jumped ship to Huddersfield, did dreadful and got sacked. Their fans said the football was as bad as when they had Powell from what I saw.
Only one I've seen that wouldn't be bad is Cook but even then I'm not sure.
If Lee goes I would like Curbs again, I think he still has it.His work record the last 10 years?
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Shoot me if you like....Im up to page 76...but I do remember thinking and saying at the time that Curbs had probably taken us as far as he could go. What happened after was the thing of nightmares.
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I think our next manager is likely to be someone we may have heard of that is perhaps up & coming from league one or two. For me, we’re not done with Bowyer yet and I still think he deserves to be given a run at next season. The football has been poor this season, no argument. However, I would say I’ve seen enough in his time here to warrant trusting him that he can turn it round.
I know he bought the current crop of players in, I know he’s chopping and changing line ups and formations, but I genuinely believe he’s got a very mediocre bunch to pick from, and we’re just not very good.
try to finish as well as possible this season, but don’t renew most of the squad’s contracts and rip it up completely in the summer, similar to Powell in 20119 -
Are we in agreement that we were mostly all pro Bowyer even after our relegation last year? I think the general consensus was that we had rubbish owners and a ridiculously bad season of injuries so to "almost" survive we gave him the benefit of the doubt.
The start of this season was no different. At some points we worried that we wouldn't even have a club and I'm betting that some of the Bowyer out guys were saying "as long the club survives this year we can go again next season" - short memories. I for one had very limited expectations for this season because we were a month behind everyone.
Bowyer has made loads of mistakes this season that's not in doubt. Both tactically and in the transfer market but I also feel he has been let down by so many players. How many players can we actually say have performed this year? Aneke when he's on the pitch. Washington has done ok but I'm guessing not too many League 1 defences are worried about playing him. JFC has done well of late but I can't remember him turning a game on it's head when we are up against it. Millar has been a bright spark at times too. Other then this I'm really struggling to see who has turned it on this year.
I don't think TS will pull the trigger this year because I'd put money on that LB has had a conversation with him about the weakness of this squad and that he can turn it around. I also think that we probably already have a idea of who we are going to bring in for next season.5 -
If TS replaces Bowyer then agree with that approach as long as that includes some flexibility, not glued to 4-2-3-1 or whatever formation they favour. Robinson, Luzon and Peeters all stuck rigidly to their one formation. It’s the other extreme of Bowyer this season.Chunes said:Bring in a manager who plays a real system and build a squad to play it. Who is our Nuno Espirito Santo or Bielsa? I think that's got to be part of Roddy's role, identifying prospective head coaches out there who are innovative.
I really do not want to see a bog-standard league one manager who we will have to replace in a few years anyway. Find a manager who plays a real system and build to that system.
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