The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
Give it a rest mate. You don’t wanna eat it then fine, don’t. Plenty enjoy it in moderation and that’s absolutely fine.
But plenty of people eat them every day, that is what the debate is about.
Over the years I've noticed when watching English football matches that (it seems) there are many overweighted people in the crowd, a significantly higher proportion than in countries like China, Japan or Korea. Sometimes I wonder if it is the genes or the food? Or maybe both? If a lot of people in the UK do eat KFC etc. every day as you point out, then I guess it's more the food than the genes' problem.
Stopped eating Chinese food about 4 or 5 years ago because of their appalling abuse of animals. Don’t particularly miss it.
No doubt there's appaulling abuse of animals here. My mum just told me a news report she had read today and I can't even find the English words to describe how inhuman it is. But not everything we eat comes from that kind of process. Besides, we probably eat more vegetables, fruit and other non-meat food than people in the West do. By the way, I don't think Chinese food processed and sold in the UK has anything to do with animal abuse?
The other issue when it comes to there being a few overweight people in a football crowd can be down to beer.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
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Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
I'd take it more seriously.
Save the animals.
Save the planet.
Save your health.
Save your soul.
Go vegan!
Is eating meat now a mortal sin?
Eating pork is good for the soul. Probably the only meat that I can't, and won't, go without. Lamb a close second. Beef has tailed off, for me, and chicken is just a bit meh.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
I'd take it more seriously.
Save the animals.
Save the planet.
Save your health.
Save your soul.
Go vegan!
Is eating meat now a mortal sin?
Eating pork is good for the soul. Probably the only meat that I can't, and won't, go without. Lamb a close second. Beef has tailed off, for me, and chicken is just a bit meh.
Same for me, Beef was always my go too dish but it has dropped right off now. Pork cooked correctly is superb and I love a bit of tender lamb.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
I'd take it more seriously.
Save the animals.
Save the planet.
Save your health.
Save your soul.
Go vegan!
Is eating meat now a mortal sin?
Eating pork is good for the soul. Probably the only meat that I can't, and won't, go without. Lamb a close second. Beef has tailed off, for me, and chicken is just a bit meh.
Same for me, Beef was always my go too dish but it has dropped right off now. Pork cooked correctly is superb and I love a bit of tender lamb.
Lamb number 1 for me, then beef, then pork (unless you are including bacon in which case it's number 1!) - not overly bothered about chicken.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own planet.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deals superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
The stuffs without doubt not good for us. Should it be banned ? Of course not. Should it be regulated ? Definitely. We don’t need a smallish parade of shops having as many takeaways as you can currently find. Local councils should have the right to limit numbers. Personal choices are not always what’s good for us. We need a little help to do what’s best sometimes.
100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
I'd take it more seriously.
Save the animals.
Save the planet.
Save your health.
Save your soul.
Go vegan!
Is eating meat now a mortal sin?
Eating pork is good for the soul. Probably the only meat that I can't, and won't, go without. Lamb a close second. Beef has tailed off, for me, and chicken is just a bit meh.
Same for me, Beef was always my go too dish but it has dropped right off now. Pork cooked correctly is superb and I love a bit of tender lamb.
Absolutely. Pork belly or slow cooked ribs are my achilles heel at the moment.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own species.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deal superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
Yes, this is the nailed on answer and the best comment in the thread.
I should have opened with something more like that.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own species.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deal superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
The inaction can't continue much longer as the NHS will just collapse under an obesity/Diabetes epidemic. Something will need to be done to fund it.
Health education is there but a lot of people just ignore it. I don't know how you change things.
this thread in the most part doesn't really apply to me. had my first Mcdonalds when i was 18. since then i probably have had 10 Mcdonalds in the last 14 years. KFC I've had once and a takeaway pizza I've had once.
however i do have a curry and also fish and chips at least a couple of times a month.
when it comes to others i do think that people by now should know the damages that eating fast food on a regular basis does to your body. i'm not gonna preach to them as i'm a smoker and a drinker and i know neither are good for me.
the addictive thing that people on here have spoken about when it comes to fast food is the one that i'm puzzled with. can you addicted to fast food? i never knew that was a thing apart from say, sugar.
Many, many years ago when I was still a boy I had a burger at Fulham away. Then I saw on the news a few days afterwards the burger sellers there were charged with selling condemned meat!
Asda less than 5% steak mince. £4:89 a kilo so you can get 5 quarter pounders. Some pickles and cheap burger buns. Lets say £1.30 per burger. However getting a McDs, like any takeaway, is not so much about the food but the perception of it as a treat or fun.
Going a bit off topic:
We make our own curries now after we moved to an area where the local takeaways are a bit crap and really put work into finding out how they do it in good Indian restaurants. Here's a good place to start. https://glebekitchen.com/indian/
We found a youtube video for Indian music of the kind you might hear in a restaurant and had some bottles of chilled beer and got some of the little steel dishes they serve it up in. All a bit tongue in cheek but made an event out of it.
Ruined takeaways for us because what we make now is as good as you can get.
Have you papered the lounge with flock wallpaper to be even more authentic?
I'm looking into getting a lamp to project a simulation for the duration of the meal. Then invite the neighbours to steam in drunk at 11:30 and behave boorishly.
I think I’ll pass commenting on my takeaway consumption after I posted about my extortionate daily intake of crisps 🤣
I can't buy multipacks of crisps as invariably they don't last - just embarrassing. I avoid Doritos entirely now as I can eat endless amounts of them - must be the MSG...
What's a lot more healthy that can be churned out at the rate the current fast food can, for the same cost price, that is just as appealing to the masses?
Most of the plant based meal offerings are healthier. Certainly not all.
Maybe not as appealing at first but if you want something a bit naughty that tastes very nice and doesn't involve animals I recommend the 'No Meat Company' products. Yet to have anything I haven't enjoyed.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own planet.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deals superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
It’s definitely improving. When I changed to vegetarian, it became the main go to joke between my group. Now, 6 or so years on, almost all those friends now go vegetarian at least 2 days a week, some have gone full vegetarian.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own planet.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deals superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
With respect @Laddick01 I think I’m well known enough on this beautiful forum that anyone who reads my comments on the dedicated vegan thread knows that I am far from a pushy, judgemental vegan that can give the lifestyle a bad name. What I wrote in response to Dave21 was typed with a smile on my face with no sense of better-than-thouness. Read the entire thread and you’ll find that I haven’t called for the end of the (meatcentric) fast food industry no matter the damage I believe intensive animal agriculture does to our planet.
I will have the odd McDonalds for convenience but not as a treat. KFC can be a rare treat as it actually tastes good. I think a McDonalds burger is tasteless in the extreme and relies on the sauce. Also when you see a Big Mac on an advert it is like it is floating on air. When you buy one it is often like Susan Boyle has sat on it, with lettuce everywhere in the box and cheese stuck to the sides.
A lot of processed food is heavily dependent on sugar and salt - once you get used to it then it can become a bit addictive. Sugary drinks just add to the problem.
Some of the health problems surfacing in younger children from poor diet are a bit depressing.
It really is. We need to sort it out.
It effects mental health.
"We are what we eat"!
Tried horse salami once.... Now i'm hung like one. Problem being it was from a mare.
Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own planet.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deals superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
With respect @Laddick01 I think I’m well known enough on this beautiful forum that anyone who reads my comments on the dedicated vegan thread knows that I am far from a pushy, judgemental vegan that can give the lifestyle a bad name. What I wrote in response to Dave21 was typed with a smile on my face with no sense of better-than-thouness. Read the entire thread and you’ll find that I haven’t called for the end of the (meatcentric) fast food industry no matter the damage I believe intensive animal agriculture does to our planet.
Offered some great advice to me on the Vegan thread, as have some others on here.
I am not a vegan, won't ever be a vegan, but thanks to helpful posters on here I've found reducing my use of animal products enjoyable.
No chance I'll ever go back to regularly eating unhealthy fast food, meat or vegan. It's just shit that poisons the body and mind with chemicals, sugar and fats which trick your dopamine receptors.
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100%
Without taking this to an overly serious level..
We do often need help. No one is their own actual best mate.
"F*ck off I don't want any help"
A high number of typical likely responses.
It would obviously be a valid fair enough sort of response.
I would personally very happily and great-fully accept personal advice in regards to diet.
It might give me a good extra boot and improve motivation.
I'd take it more seriously.
Save the animals.
Save the planet.
Save your health.
Save your soul.
Go vegan!
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Whilst I think your heart is in the right place, I think you need to remember this is a divisive topic. Coming across so strong on an online platform probably won’t do you many favours.
I am vegan, I would never eat meat again, but I think there does have to be a level of respect towards other people’s values.
Where I can wholeheartedly agree with you however is that we need to be eating less meat as a species. If not ethically, for the survival of our own planet.
David Attenborough’s ‘A life on our planet’ is a fantastic and scary watch that deals superbly with this subject matter.
I don’t think it’s right to kill the fast food industry. But we definitely need to question it’s sustainability.
Yes, this is the nailed on answer and the best comment in the thread.
I should have opened with something more like that.
Health education is there but a lot of people just ignore it. I don't know how you change things.
however i do have a curry and also fish and chips at least a couple of times a month.
when it comes to others i do think that people by now should know the damages that eating fast food on a regular basis does to your body. i'm not gonna preach to them as i'm a smoker and a drinker and i know neither are good for me.
the addictive thing that people on here have spoken about when it comes to fast food is the one that i'm puzzled with. can you addicted to fast food? i never knew that was a thing apart from say, sugar.
I wasn't sick, but was waiting to be.
Maybe not as appealing at first but if you want something a bit naughty that tastes very nice and doesn't involve animals I recommend the 'No Meat Company' products. Yet to have anything I haven't enjoyed.
The big Mac won't fill you up.
Your hunger will rapidly decrease. So it will feel like a nice therapeutic relief in your mind.
But then your hunger will rapidly increase again. Mostly likely after a vague stomach ache.
It's part of the problem.
If you eat salmon potatoes and peas. Your hunger will gradually narrow.
And it will very gradually increase (in more time) afterwards.
It's partly why fast food is a revolving door for over weight people. It's dangerous.
With respect @Laddick01 I think I’m well known enough on this beautiful forum that anyone who reads my comments on the dedicated vegan thread knows that I am far from a pushy, judgemental vegan that can give the lifestyle a bad name. What I wrote in response to Dave21 was typed with a smile on my face with no sense of better-than-thouness. Read the entire thread and you’ll find that I haven’t called for the end of the (meatcentric) fast food industry no matter the damage I believe intensive animal agriculture does to our planet.
I am not a vegan, won't ever be a vegan, but thanks to helpful posters on here I've found reducing my use of animal products enjoyable.
No chance I'll ever go back to regularly eating unhealthy fast food, meat or vegan. It's just shit that poisons the body and mind with chemicals, sugar and fats which trick your dopamine receptors.
Healthy fast food though... Now that can be fun.