As it should be ... I think the key is as Johnson says, companies might draw conclusions about future investments "in countries where arbitrary blockades are imposed". Pharmacy are not going to want to base factories in the EU if their exports are blocked. Good to see reason on both sides.
Incidentally, I find it strange that Biden is taking part in the EU meeting tomorrow to discuss this issue.
As it should be ... I think the key is as Johnson says, companies might draw conclusions about future investments "in countries where arbitrary blockades are imposed". Pharmacy are not going to want to base factories in the EU if their exports are blocked. Good to see reason on both sides.
Incidentally, I find it strange that Biden is taking part in the EU meeting tomorrow to discuss this issue.
You think pharmacy would leave the EU? Where do you see them going instead?
The UK vaccine ‘success’ is driven by greed says the Tory prime minister. No shit Sherlock. Maybe something like cutting overseas aid to build nuclear weapons will be next...oh hang on. Lots of messengers to shoot, better than questioning the philosophy eh? Personally I think the vaccine success is driven by scientists across the world collaborating to tackle something collectively out of necessity aided by thousands of volunteers and ordinary workers. Those are the people to thank, not the greedy scammers who have made a fortune from this situation. Perhaps that’s what Dominic (herd immunity) Cummings meant when he said with crisis comes opportunity. I didn’t invent the story about what the Prime Minister said, but I feel sure I will be attacked for mentioning it and commenting on it.
Shut up Seth, for God's sake
Why? It is new news related to the Vaccines and I have commented on it. Is that not allowed?
If there was a competition for the world's most boring man you would win hands down.
As it should be ... I think the key is as Johnson says, companies might draw conclusions about future investments "in countries where arbitrary blockades are imposed". Pharmacy are not going to want to base factories in the EU if their exports are blocked. Good to see reason on both sides.
Incidentally, I find it strange that Biden is taking part in the EU meeting tomorrow to discuss this issue.
You think pharmacy would leave the EU? Where do you see them going instead?
India? They are churning out plenty of University educated youngsters who are finding it increasingly difficult to get into the UK, Canada and the US.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
As it should be ... I think the key is as Johnson says, companies might draw conclusions about future investments "in countries where arbitrary blockades are imposed". Pharmacy are not going to want to base factories in the EU if their exports are blocked. Good to see reason on both sides.
Incidentally, I find it strange that Biden is taking part in the EU meeting tomorrow to discuss this issue.
You think pharmacy would leave the EU? Where do you see them going instead?
India? They are churning out plenty of University educated youngsters who are finding it increasingly difficult to get into the UK, Canada and the US.
India are supplying a lot of Countries and obviously have a huge population to vaccinate themselves. We have received a shed load from them and I notice that they are sending supplies to small 3rd world countries and have sent over 23 million doses out. Some of them as grants. I have been proud of the Oxford lot not charging for their vaccines, but I am fast believing that they should start charging some Countries for them. No one has said anything, but I think European Countries that are getting it at cost and then get stroppy about supplies should be charged in future if amendments are introduced in future. I think it is really offensive that they think they can get stroppy about a product that they are getting at cost.
The UK vaccine ‘success’ is driven by greed says the Tory prime minister. No shit Sherlock. Maybe something like cutting overseas aid to build nuclear weapons will be next...oh hang on. Lots of messengers to shoot, better than questioning the philosophy eh? Personally I think the vaccine success is driven by scientists across the world collaborating to tackle something collectively out of necessity aided by thousands of volunteers and ordinary workers. Those are the people to thank, not the greedy scammers who have made a fortune from this situation. Perhaps that’s what Dominic (herd immunity) Cummings meant when he said with crisis comes opportunity. I didn’t invent the story about what the Prime Minister said, but I feel sure I will be attacked for mentioning it and commenting on it.
Shut up Seth, for God's sake
Why? It is new news related to the Vaccines and I have commented on it. Is that not allowed?
If there was a competition for the world's most boring man you would win hands down.
The UK vaccine ‘success’ is driven by greed says the Tory prime minister. No shit Sherlock. Maybe something like cutting overseas aid to build nuclear weapons will be next...oh hang on. Lots of messengers to shoot, better than questioning the philosophy eh? Personally I think the vaccine success is driven by scientists across the world collaborating to tackle something collectively out of necessity aided by thousands of volunteers and ordinary workers. Those are the people to thank, not the greedy scammers who have made a fortune from this situation. Perhaps that’s what Dominic (herd immunity) Cummings meant when he said with crisis comes opportunity. I didn’t invent the story about what the Prime Minister said, but I feel sure I will be attacked for mentioning it and commenting on it.
Shut up Seth, for God's sake
Why? It is new news related to the Vaccines and I have commented on it. Is that not allowed?
If there was a competition for the world's most boring man you would win hands down.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
The human race is devolving. We reached our peak some time in the eighties. Its all downhill from now
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
The human race is devolving. We reached our peak some time in the eighties. Its all downhill from now
Never thought of it like that but jeez, I think you’re right. Can’t be a coincidence that was the around the time the interweb came into our lives.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
People are weird! I’m 42, I can either be vaccinated and I can live like the first 41 years or not be vaccinated and live like the last. It’s not really a difficult choice to make
People in England aged over 50 and in at-risk categories are being urged to book their Covid-19 jabs before next Monday when slots are set to dry up.
The NHS said anyone who currently qualifies but has not had a first dose of a vaccine should arrange an appointment by 29 March.
Officials expect a slowdown in vaccine supplies in April and medics will be focusing on providing second doses.
Ministers say the plan to offer a first dose to all adults by July is on track.
But NHS England said no first appointments should be booked next month for people under the age of 50 unless they fall into a higher priority group, such as those who are clinically vulnerable.
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
Do they not like her then?
I wish my mother in law would refuse it then I’d have all the reasons I need to ban her from my pub & put an end to her free family lunch when she turns up with 4 friends each week !
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
They haven't been cavalier at all. Where do you draw that conclusion from? What has been cavalier is the stupidity of journalists reporting on statistical data without understanding it correctly.
French brother and sister of my acquaintance have decided their Mum is going to get the vaccine as it's not safe. Pointless pointing out to them that not having the vaccine is even less safe.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
Do they not like her then?
I wish my mother in law would refuse it then I’d have all the reasons I need to ban her from my pub & put an end to her free family lunch when she turns up with 4 friends each week !
just tell the mrs that she was caught having a toot in the disabled bogs and is barred
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
They haven't been cavalier at all. Where do you draw that conclusion from? What has been cavalier is the stupidity of journalists reporting on statistical data without understanding it correctly.
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
They haven't been cavalier at all. Where do you draw that conclusion from? What has been cavalier is the stupidity of journalists reporting on statistical data without understanding it correctly.
I don't think so. The latest balls-up was spotted by the US National Institutes of Health, not stupid journalists. And the flaw in the figures - using outdated information - had to be rectified by AZ who had to alter the figures downwards in one case and upwards in another. Nothing to do with journalists misinterpreting anything. My point - and it comes from one who has had the AZ jab and is grateful - is that AZ have, from the beginning with the nonsense about the half-doses, been less than careful with the information they have issued and that it to be regretted.
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
They haven't been cavalier at all. Where do you draw that conclusion from? What has been cavalier is the stupidity of journalists reporting on statistical data without understanding it correctly.
I don't think so. The latest balls-up was spotted by the US National Institutes of Health, not stupid journalists. And the flaw in the figures - using outdated information - had to be rectified by AZ who had to alter the figures downwards in one case and upwards in another. Nothing to do with journalists misinterpreting anything. My point - and it comes from one who has had the AZ jab and is grateful - is that AZ have, from the beginning with the nonsense about the half-doses, been less than careful with the information they have issued and that it to be regretted.
Completely wrong. No balls up at all. Its simply a case that as more testing of the vaccine is done and analysed for approval by different organisation the overall picture has changed with that new information and so they have updated the figure. Its gonna keep happening the more the vaccine gets used. Movement of a couple of percentage points in either direction is pretty irrelevant given they are nearly double as effective as the average flu vaccine. Information around the Efficacy of the pfizer vaccine has been updated just as many times. The same goes for the moderna one and others just as they aren't in mass use over here they haven't had the press attention.
More testing = More information = updated headline figure = more usage = more information = updated headline figure. And repeat.
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
It's a pity Astrazeneca have been so cavalier with the figures they have released right from the beginning. It casts more doubt for vaccine sceptics to use.
They haven't been cavalier at all. Where do you draw that conclusion from? What has been cavalier is the stupidity of journalists reporting on statistical data without understanding it correctly.
I don't think so. The latest balls-up was spotted by the US National Institutes of Health, not stupid journalists. And the flaw in the figures - using outdated information - had to be rectified by AZ who had to alter the figures downwards in one case and upwards in another. Nothing to do with journalists misinterpreting anything. My point - and it comes from one who has had the AZ jab and is grateful - is that AZ have, from the beginning with the nonsense about the half-doses, been less than careful with the information they have issued and that it to be regretted.
Completely wrong. No balls up at all. Its simply a case that as more testing of the vaccine is done and analysed for approval by different organisation the overall picture has changed with that new information and so they have updated the figure. Its gonna keep happening the more the vaccine gets used. Movement of a couple of percentage points in either direction is pretty irrelevant given they are nearly double as effective as the average flu vaccine. Information around the Efficacy of the pfizer vaccine has been updated just as many times. The same goes for the moderna one and others just as they aren't in mass use over here they haven't had the press attention.
More testing = More information = updated headline figure = more usage = more information = updated headline figure. And repeat.
Not completely wrong. The balls up was spotted by the US. It was reported on the news here a couple of days ago.
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You think pharmacy would leave the EU? Where do you see them going instead?
They are churning out plenty of University educated youngsters who are finding it increasingly difficult to get into the UK, Canada and the US.
American of my acquaintance said he's not going to have the vaccine, and his family isn't either, because he's not going to be forced to have it by the president because that's the first step to communism. When I asked him for his source for Biden intending to force the vaccine on all US citizens, he unsurprisingly didn't have one.
I have been proud of the Oxford lot not charging for their vaccines, but I am fast believing that they should start charging some Countries for them.
No one has said anything, but I think European Countries that are getting it at cost and then get stroppy about supplies should be charged in future if amendments are introduced in future.
I think it is really offensive that they think they can get stroppy about a product that they are getting at cost.
I'm a miserable b@stard.
Im 6 days in, and it stills feels like being punched in the arm continuously, not trying to put people off having it, just being honest.
Id tried putting some roll on cool freeze on it to take away the pain, which I’ve used for back pain before, but a big red rash has appeared.
And a dead arm I’ve not felt since school 😂
People in England aged over 50 and in at-risk categories are being urged to book their Covid-19 jabs before next Monday when slots are set to dry up.
The NHS said anyone who currently qualifies but has not had a first dose of a vaccine should arrange an appointment by 29 March.
Officials expect a slowdown in vaccine supplies in April and medics will be focusing on providing second doses.
Ministers say the plan to offer a first dose to all adults by July is on track.
But NHS England said no first appointments should be booked next month for people under the age of 50 unless they fall into a higher priority group, such as those who are clinically vulnerable.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56521415
AstraZeneca has updated the efficacy result of its coronavirus vaccine trial in the US, after health officials insisted they wanted to include the latest information.
The Anglo-Swedish firm has now adjusted the efficacy rate of its vaccine from 79% to 76%.
Further data from the US trial showed efficacy among the over 65s rose from 80% to 85%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56521166
More testing = More information = updated headline figure = more usage = more information = updated headline figure. And repeat.