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Had my first one this morning at the ExCel in the Docklands. Quite a surreal experience, but impressively organised.
I received my invite only 2 days ago, and got it booked straight away.7 -
@Jessie, it is true the covid vaccines have been developed faster than is usual, but this is because there have been none of the normal hold-ups such as finding the money to fund the development, finding enough volunteers to test it, nor (sadly) there being enough of the infection about to test it against.
In the West, the trials volunteers were mainly younger people, so there was a shortage of data for old codgers like me, who were at greatest risk from covid. That caused initial concerns, especially in mainland Europe, but the number of over 70s now vaccinated in UK alone is far more than there would ever be in a clinical trial, and there have been no problems. The post-vaccine reactions a number of us have had do not last long and in the greater scheme of things are a minor inconvenience.
The effect of the vaccine takes a few weeks to kick in. There were initially a few older people who caught covid shortly after vaccination and sadly died. However, once the immunity has built up, the UK experience is that any infection is mild, and not requiring hospital treatment. No vaccine is 100% effective, and virus mutations may reduce its efficacy, but a working vaccine is certainly better than no vaccine.
I know the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines have also been trialled in the West (Turkey, UAE, & Brazil), and the World Health Organisation is hoping to have results this month. This link to a BBC website https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55907903 which gives a short video about these vaccines, published early February. Might be worth waiting for the WHO report, to get an independent view on how good their efficiencies are? I don't know whether you would be then able to choose which you have, if one is shown to be more efficient than the other? Here in the UK, we have what we are given - "Beggars can't be choosers"! - but at least there is evidence that they all have good efficiencies.4 -
I had my gums cut open last month to remove 2 half teeth , I’ve been waiting nearly 15 months for the work as it couldn’t be done at a regular dentist , they gave me 7 days antibiotics as a precaution to prevent infection & I had my vaccine jab 2 weeks after my teeth out so 1 week after I’d finished the antibiotics, I asked both the dentist & my jabber if it might be an issue & they both reassured me there was none whatsoever, mine was the AZ jab.Jessie said:Thanks @ME14addick @AddicksAddict
I just read through a thread on a Chinese forum and one person mentioned that if you've just had a tooth extraction and are on medication then you can't have the vaccine. It suddenly occured to me that I have two wisdom teeth that have been causing me slight pain for a few months because of possbile infections. Recently whenever I don't get enough sleep I feel uncomfortable with those two teeth and my head hurts so I have finally mustered up the courage and decided to go to the dentist next month to have the two teeth extracted. Obviously they can't be pulled at once and it will probably take two months at least. I've been dreading the tooth extraction for two years actually....
I fear there could be a risk of exacerbating the tooth infections if I take the vaccine before I solve my tooth problem ?
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It's 9 days since I had the AZ jab. I felt a bit chilly and unwell for 48 hours (starting after 12 hrs).
Since then I've been fine, although I have felt sleepy in the afternoons and I keep nodding off.
It may not be due to the jab, but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz1 -
Barbers booked for April 12th, Second jab booked for April 14th...what a week, not been so excited since I unwrapped a Grifter at age 10 (still annoyed they got me a silver one instead of red though)6
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My wife is 50 and had the Oxford jab on Thursday. Thursday night/Friday had really bad aches all over. Saturday she is just tired and grumpy - so back to normal then..17
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God bless Boris Johnsonseth plum said:Mrs Plum says getting a reaction from the vaccination is actually a good thing, it means the medicine is having an effect.I think no reaction at all would disconcert her.
I think she has a point.4 -
This is exactly the kind of rampant non stop political content that ruins this otherwise pink and fluffy thread laden with kindly information and absolutely nothing at all else.cafcnick1992 said:
God bless Boris Johnsonseth plum said:Mrs Plum says getting a reaction from the vaccination is actually a good thing, it means the medicine is having an effect.I think no reaction at all would disconcert her.
I think she has a point.
I had better warn you that the diddums crowd may well single you out and round on you for some collective, and cathartic to them, bullying.7 -
Just had a test- negative - hadn’t planned on having one but one of my daughters had booked herself in for one and I drove her there, waited outside for her and when she got back in the car she said they just told her they need people to have the test because they think the centre will get shut down if they don’t get enough people having tests there. So i got out of the car and walked in, said i hadn’t booked and probably got thanked by more people in the space of 15 minutes for turning up somewhere unannounced than I ever have. Took the self administered test, avoided puking when swabbing my throat either side of my tonsils (I asked her if that was what the big bucket for and she said no we have sick bags for that, then panicked to find one), made my eyes water when I stuck it up my nostril, got thanked twice more on the way out and then back home in time for a text and an email to say it was negative.
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I had my first jab after a text from the GP at a local centre. They gave me a date for the next one but I need to change it. Can I do this online?bobmunro said:BrentfordAddick said:Had first vaccine 15 Feb, AZ. Never had second appointment. Was listening to football whilst working last night, bored, so went online to see if could book second vaccine. Did so, 8 May at 1pm so do that then home to see us secure 6th place.
Don't know if I should have waited or what. That's an 11 week gap so hopefully ok. Also, I was given the choice of lots of vaccine centres but none was where I originally went. Second jab is much closer to home, and the first one was only a couple of miles.Booked our second jabs yesterday online - 1 May. 11 weeks and a day.Likewise, the centre where we had the first jab (4 miles from home) was not listed so had to opt for a pharmacy 13 miles away - not an issue though.Likewise (well my wife did and I just tagged along!). But they never gave us the date for the second jab.Select 'Manage my appointments'. I entered my personal details and it automatically picked up I had had the first jab and offered the second jab venues. It did say 'You failed to attend your second appointment so you will need to book again' but ignore that (I hadn't) so it must be a default message.
ah perfect - thank you!
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Had my second jab this afternoon, ok so far.
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I felt slightly fluey the night after my AZ jab (as I expected)
What was stranger is that I felt really cold and shivery during the night a week after the jab. It might be unrelated, and I had assumed I had a cold or something else, but maybe it was connected to the vaccine? It literally was that night only, and most unusual for me as I don't feel the cold.0 -
@jessie After an hour in the dentist's chair having one of my wisdom teeth removed, which had to be cut into four pieces to get it out, the nurse asked the dentist if I'd have been better off in hospital. The dentist replied "Maybe, but I like doing wisdom teeth". I was on antibiotics for a week after so it would not be surprising if you were, too, seeing as it sounds like you'll have a similar experience to mine.Jessie said:
Thank you. You are much more confident in our vaccines than many of our people seem to be.ShootersHillGuru said:
Both of the Chinese manufactured vaccines are the very traditional, tried and tested inactivated vaccines where a small amount of viral particles are injected in the body enough to elicit an immune response but not enough to cause a problem. There is nothing wrong with Chinese pharmaceutical technology and although data is not as available as with other available vaccines I would feel completely confident in them. Side effects when experienced are the likely aches, pains and mild flu like symptoms.Jessie said:Thanks @ME14addick @AddicksAddict
I just read through a thread on a Chinese forum and one person mentioned that if you've just had a tooth extraction and are on medication then you can't have the vaccine. It suddenly occured to me that I have two wisdom teeth that have been causing me slight pain for a few months because of possbile infections. Recently whenever I don't get enough sleep I feel uncomfortable with those two teeth and my head hurts so I have finally mustered up the courage and decided to go to the dentist next month to have the two teeth extracted. Obviously they can't be pulled at once and it will probably take two months at least. I've been dreading the tooth extraction for two years actually....
I fear there could be a risk of exacerbating the tooth infections if I take the vaccine before I solve my tooth problem ?Not sure why after a tooth extraction you might be expecting to be “on” medication. That’s not usual although prior to an extraction antibiotics might be prescribed for two weeks if there is the possibility of infection in the tooth or gum.
As for the medication... I had to look up the English words for the medicines... They're ornidazole, metronidazole and that type of medicines, -nidazole. Some people even have to get IV treatments for one or two days after a tooth extraction. Antibiotics IV treatments are quite common here. It's probably not the case in the Western countries. One of my infected wisdom teeth is a horizontally impacted tooth which is more difficult to remove. It will be like a small operation and I probably will need an IV afterwards too...1 -
Sounds like you had a blunt needle.🤕 💉Southendaddick said:Had mine yesterday and feel absolutely shattered today.
And a dead arm I’ve not felt since school 😂0 -
Oooooh......how posh!Johnnysummers5 said:I have my second jab, tomorrow afternoon at Charlton House0 -
So, the moderna vaccine that’s due to roll out soon to the majority of under 50s, says 2nd dose due within 28 days of the 1st dose. Surely this mean some of those will be double dosed ahead of the elder and vulnerable Pfizer and AZ jabs?0
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UK government has only ordered 17m doses of the Moderna vaccine so that will only be enough for 8.5m people less a percentage for wastage.0
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Oooooh......how posh!Johnnysummers5 said:I have my second jab, tomorrow afternoon at Charlton House
Only the best in Charlton, my butler drove me there in the Rolls.3 -
Had my first AZ jab yesterday lunchtime, felt a bit light headed for an hour or two, took some paracetamol and I’m absolutely fine this morning.9
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Oh I just read that moderna order was next. When’s valneva ready?0
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Moderna is next.suzisausage said:Oh I just read that moderna order was next. When’s valneva ready?
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Anyone know?Jessie said:I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.0 -
My dad grandad and aunt got the virus post vaccine. No symptoms. Only got tested as doctor suggested it as gdad had a cold and thought they might as well as he has carers including dad and aunt.carly burn said:
Anyone know?Jessie said:I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
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I've heard that they plan to hold back the moderna and Novavax supplies to potentially use as booster shots come autumn in the absence of a specialist variant booster.suzisausage said:So, the moderna vaccine that’s due to roll out soon to the majority of under 50s, says 2nd dose due within 28 days of the 1st dose. Surely this mean some of those will be double dosed ahead of the elder and vulnerable Pfizer and AZ jabs?
This was before the April supply delay with AZ was known so perhaps the plan there has changed depending on when supply is available.0 -
Moderna vaccine 'expected in UK' soon
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden has said the Moderna vaccine is expected to be rolled out in the UK "this month".
It wasn't clear if he meant March or April
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Good stuff. If the supply is available to help bridge the AZ supply gap in April that will be huge. Glad they have sensibly changed the plan there. The bonus of course being new to us means it will only be able to be used for first doses during that period which is where the expected shortage will fall.clive said:Moderna vaccine 'expected in UK' soon
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden has said the Moderna vaccine is expected to be rolled out in the UK "this month".
It wasn't clear if he meant March or April
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Yes, my mum (probably caught it 4 days afterwards and the virus won) and me (19 days afterwards with light symptoms).suzisausage said:
My dad grandad and aunt got the virus post vaccine. No symptoms. Only got tested as doctor suggested it as gdad had a cold and thought they might as well as he has carers including dad and aunt.carly burn said:
Anyone know?Jessie said:I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
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Just wanted to say a big thanks to cafcdave.. my wife and me have got through 24 hours and no side effects!cafcdave123 said:
Just shy of 24 hours since my second jab and I am absolutely fine.peterreeves said:
Thanks for this cafcdave this is good to know. Both me and my lady are due to have our jab today and she is very nervous after a rough reaction to the the first jab.cafcdave123 said:
Despite all the crying there was no sticker unfortunately.peterreeves said:
Well done you... Don't tell me they gave you a sticker as that would just push me over the edge🤣.cafcdave123 said:BOOM that’s me basically invincible now
Let us know if you get any issues as it seems loads of lifers are having second jabs today and tomorrow.
ive felt absolutely fine today, will update tomorrow but so far so goodObviously people will react differently but it’s definitely not a guarantee that your going to have any side effects
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Yes they have. 37 from 28000 people in the USA tested positive after receiving two doses. The workers did work in health care in the front line so exposure would have been greater. It does emphasis the need to follow the protocols of wearing a mask etc after vaccination because one could still pass it on.carly burn said:
Anyone know?Jessie said:I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
Not that unusual for some to still catch a virus after vaccination, but you would probably never know unless tested.2
