Having felt absolutely fine yesterday after the vaccine (even did a 10km walk), I am absolutely knackered today. Not quite flu level symptoms, but not far off.
I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
Anyone know?
Yes they have. 37 from 28000 people in the USA tested positive after receiving two doses. The workers did work in health care in the front line so exposure would have been greater. It does emphasis the need to follow the protocols of wearing a mask etc after vaccination because one could still pass it on. Not that unusual for some to still catch a virus after vaccination, but you would probably never know unless tested.
How long after getting their doses did this happen though? It does take several weeks before you get the maximum protection from the vaccine
How much is the vaccine programme expected to slow in the coming months? Seems to be conflicting views. Macron is claiming France will have caught up with the UK in a few weeks vaccine programme - I'm assuming this is in the very least partly to save face from their poor progress so far and he seems pretty intent on blocking doses leaving the EU too.
I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
Anyone know?
Yes they have. 37 from 28000 people in the USA tested positive after receiving two doses. The workers did work in health care in the front line so exposure would have been greater. It does emphasis the need to follow the protocols of wearing a mask etc after vaccination because one could still pass it on. Not that unusual for some to still catch a virus after vaccination, but you would probably never know unless tested.
How long after getting their doses did this happen though? It does take several weeks before you get the maximum protection from the vaccine
You can still catch the virus at any time even after you get 2 doses of the vaccine. It reduces the effects of the virus. You still need to observe social distancing, wash hands etc.
I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
Anyone know?
Yes they have. 37 from 28000 people in the USA tested positive after receiving two doses. The workers did work in health care in the front line so exposure would have been greater. It does emphasis the need to follow the protocols of wearing a mask etc after vaccination because one could still pass it on. Not that unusual for some to still catch a virus after vaccination, but you would probably never know unless tested.
How long after getting their doses did this happen though? It does take several weeks before you get the maximum protection from the vaccine
I think Crusty has hit the nail on the head. Vaccines will stop most people from catching it and therefore passing it on. But by far the greatest benefit is not dying!
I think I can handle being ill, but I don’t want to die. The fact that the vaccine apparently stops you developing serious symptoms, and also not being so ill you need to go into hospital is a massive bonus. When you read about long COVID affecting heart, brains, lungs etc it is certainly something we could all do without. And the thought of passing it on to friends and family does not bear thinking about. I worry about Countries like France who are against taking it. How many of their loved ones and countrymen are going to die or be seriously ill? How selfish do you have to be to risk everyone around you? I am not sure I could live with myself if I had not done what I could to make the neighbourhood that I live in, the Country I live in, the World I live in, safer for everyone.
I felt a little grotty today but it’s a small price to pay against getting coved. It amazed me the organisation at bromley civic centre yesterday morning, me and the wife were straight in on time and through to the end within a 20 minutes. No fuss or hiccups at all. I think the government has shit lucky having such dedicated and professional people working for our country.
Had my second this morning, a year to the day since I could stop self isolating as a result of having COVID. Really puts into perspective just what an achievement this has been.
I haven't read all posts on this thread. Just wanted to ask a genuine question and thanks in advance for replying:
Are there any cases of people getting affected even after having the vaccine? Has anyone of you heard of such cases?
I'm considering getting the vaccine here in my country but so far no-one around me has done it. My mum has been persuading me to book my appointment but I'm a little concerned about side effects which is also one of the main reasons why none of my colleagues have taken the vaccine.
Anyone know?
My dad grandad and aunt got the virus post vaccine. No symptoms. Only got tested as doctor suggested it as gdad had a cold and thought they might as well as he has carers including dad and aunt.
Yes, my mum (probably caught it 4 days afterwards and the virus won) and me (19 days afterwards with light symptoms).
These sort of don't count as getting the virus after vaccination as the vaccines take three weeks to kick in. Not wishing to diminish your suffering, of course.
German toddlers called Fritz or Adele could be invited for a Covid-19
vaccination while octogenarian Peters and Brigittes will not, as an
overzealous interpretation of data privacy laws in one state has forced
officials to guess people’s ages from their first names.
Authorities in the northern German state of Lower Saxony claim legal
hurdles blocked them from accessing official records when trying to send
a written invitation for a vaccination appointment to all citizens aged
over 80.
The state decided instead to use post office records, which it said
met data protection requirements. But since the Deutsche Post database
only partially includes dates of birth, officials have used people’s
first names to estimate their ages and “increase the chances of reaching
the right recipients”, a spokesperson told the newspaper Bild.
“Therefore not all people in Lower Saxony who are older than 80 will
receive a letter,” the health ministry of Lower Saxony conceded in a statement on its website.
How much is the vaccine programme expected to slow in the coming months? Seems to be conflicting views. Macron is claiming France will have caught up with the UK in a few weeks vaccine programme - I'm assuming this is in the very least partly to save face from their poor progress so far and he seems pretty intent on blocking doses leaving the EU too.
I suspect Macron means France will catch up the UK on the rate of daily jabs. The French are definitely turning out more daily jabs than they were a couple of weeks back.
It's unlikely we will slow so much that France will catch up on the total, until long after we've finished.
UK Current 1st Jabs = 30,151,287 France Current 1st Jabs = 7,742,466
UK Current 2nd Jabs = 3,527,481 France Current 2nd Jabs = 2,651,777
How much is the vaccine programme expected to slow in the coming months? Seems to be conflicting views. Macron is claiming France will have caught up with the UK in a few weeks vaccine programme - I'm assuming this is in the very least partly to save face from their poor progress so far and he seems pretty intent on blocking doses leaving the EU too.
I suspect Macron means France will catch up the UK on the rate of daily jabs. The French are definitely turning out more daily jabs than they were a couple of weeks back.
It's unlikely we will slow so much that France will catch up on the total, until long after we've finished.
UK Current 1st Jabs = 30,151,287 France Current 1st Jabs = 7,742,466
UK Current 2nd Jabs = 3,527,481 France Current 2nd Jabs = 2,651,777
German toddlers called Fritz or Adele could be invited for a Covid-19
vaccination while octogenarian Peters and Brigittes will not, as an
overzealous interpretation of data privacy laws in one state has forced
officials to guess people’s ages from their first names.
Authorities in the northern German state of Lower Saxony claim legal
hurdles blocked them from accessing official records when trying to send
a written invitation for a vaccination appointment to all citizens aged
over 80.
The state decided instead to use post office records, which it said
met data protection requirements. But since the Deutsche Post database
only partially includes dates of birth, officials have used people’s
first names to estimate their ages and “increase the chances of reaching
the right recipients”, a spokesperson told the newspaper Bild.
“Therefore not all people in Lower Saxony who are older than 80 will
receive a letter,” the health ministry of Lower Saxony conceded in a statement on its website.
If correct, deplorable after all the fiasco so far.
German toddlers called Fritz or Adele could be invited for a Covid-19
vaccination while octogenarian Peters and Brigittes will not, as an
overzealous interpretation of data privacy laws in one state has forced
officials to guess people’s ages from their first names.
Authorities in the northern German state of Lower Saxony claim legal
hurdles blocked them from accessing official records when trying to send
a written invitation for a vaccination appointment to all citizens aged
over 80.
The state decided instead to use post office records, which it said
met data protection requirements. But since the Deutsche Post database
only partially includes dates of birth, officials have used people’s
first names to estimate their ages and “increase the chances of reaching
the right recipients”, a spokesperson told the newspaper Bild.
“Therefore not all people in Lower Saxony who are older than 80 will
receive a letter,” the health ministry of Lower Saxony conceded in a statement on its website.
Surely there is a country wide medical record, even if they don't have something akin to the NHS. Or the equivalent NI number if not an NHS number. GDPR (EU legislation) issues are a red herring - in this scenario there is a clear 'legitimate interest' in accessing the data - it's a public health emergency FFS.
German toddlers called Fritz or Adele could be invited for a Covid-19
vaccination while octogenarian Peters and Brigittes will not, as an
overzealous interpretation of data privacy laws in one state has forced
officials to guess people’s ages from their first names.
Authorities in the northern German state of Lower Saxony claim legal
hurdles blocked them from accessing official records when trying to send
a written invitation for a vaccination appointment to all citizens aged
over 80.
The state decided instead to use post office records, which it said
met data protection requirements. But since the Deutsche Post database
only partially includes dates of birth, officials have used people’s
first names to estimate their ages and “increase the chances of reaching
the right recipients”, a spokesperson told the newspaper Bild.
“Therefore not all people in Lower Saxony who are older than 80 will
receive a letter,” the health ministry of Lower Saxony conceded in a statement on its website.
Surely there is a country wide medical record, even if they don't have something akin to the NHS. Or the equivalent NI number if not an NHS number. GDPR (EU legislation) issues are a red herring - in this scenario there is a clear 'legitimate interest' in accessing the data - it's a public health emergency FFS.
Never use DPA/GDPR as an excuse not to use common sense - ICO.
And we don’t have a national patient record so why should Germany !
Amid vaccine shortages in Europe, Chinese vaccine producer CanSino says it is currently “in talks with a number of European countries” about orders for its vaccine, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.
Currently, the only country that has approved CanSino’s vaccine for emergency use is Hungary.
Although it hasn't specified which countries the discussions are with, Poland has “expressed interest” with Chinese vaccines, according to the Global Times, and other countries are likely to be non-EU members.
At present, six European countries have either received or are already using Chinese vaccines, but these vaccines are limited within the EU as they have yet to gain approval from the European Medicines Agency.
With the exception of Hungary, the European countries using Chinese vaccines are outside of the European Union.
The single-dose CanSino vaccine was first approved for use among China’s military in June 2020. It is now being used in China, Pakistan and Mexico.
CanSino is currently trialling alternatives to injectable vaccines. Last week, it was granted approval to begin clinical trials using an “inhaled vaccine” that would be a “less painful and more accessible” alternative to an injection, “especially for children and vulnerable people”. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56562416
I felt a little grotty today but it’s a small price to pay against getting coved. It amazed me the organisation at bromley civic centre yesterday morning, me and the wife were straight in on time and through to the end within a 20 minutes. No fuss or hiccups at all. I think the government has shit lucky having such dedicated and professional people working for our country.
Not forgetting all the fantastic volunteers who help out at the vaccination centres. I had a couple of old soldiers wearing their berets, regimental ties and medals at the entrance and exit.....bumped elbows with them both and of course thanked them.
a word of advice for anyone looking to change the appointment for their jab. My Mum is 92 and lives in Dartford. When she got a letter in Jan to say she could book her jab I went on line and got the soonest available - at that time the nearest centre to her was Guildford Superdrug. Booked and got her jabbed. She was due back there next Tuesday for the second, but asked if I could get a closer centre to her. The online management system only enables you to cancel your appointment - not change it. So I called 119 yesterday to see if I could change it by phone. They only have access to the same on line website that you do. So they have to cancel your appointment before they can see other options. Did that and the only other option was Grays in Essex, and the only day available was Easter Sunday. Asked if we could have our old appointment back but this had gone in less than two minutes.
So we go this Easter Sunday for what is a much shorter drive - 20 mins as opposed to an hour - but at a much worse date for us.
In summary, be very careful before you cancel an appointment as the options offered may be very limited.
I felt a little grotty today but it’s a small price to pay against getting coved. It amazed me the organisation at bromley civic centre yesterday morning, me and the wife were straight in on time and through to the end within a 20 minutes. No fuss or hiccups at all. I think the government has shit lucky having such dedicated and professional people working for our country.
Even quicker at woodville halls Gravesend, turned up at 12:20 for 12:30 appointment, straight in, done and out by 12:28
I've just been talking to my step-mum who was due to have her 2nd Covid jab at the Alexandra Suite in Swanley this Sunday. She hasn't been told herself that the booking has been cancelled, but has heard via others. Her doctor's surgery in South Darenth wasn't very helpful and told her to call 119. They weren't helpful either and told her that they only deal with the AZ vaccine and as she had Pfizer, they can't help her.
She has been trying to do a search on the web for a site that she was told was a place she could re-book but can't find anything. Can anyone help with the name of the website she needs to use, as I seem to remember something on here.
It is very bad that she hasn't been contacted if her original appointment has been cancelled and certainly not the way to treat elderly people.
EDIT - I've been doing a bit of research and have now found the details.
I felt a little grotty today but it’s a small price to pay against getting coved. It amazed me the organisation at bromley civic centre yesterday morning, me and the wife were straight in on time and through to the end within a 20 minutes. No fuss or hiccups at all. I think the government has shit lucky having such dedicated and professional people working for our country.
Even quicker at woodville halls Gravesend, turned up at 12:20 for 12:30 appointment, straight in, done and out by 12:28
My daughter had her first jab there - incredibly efficient - sadly had to dirty ourselves by going to Gravesend 😉
I've just been talking to my step-mum who was due to have her 2nd Covid jab at the Alexandra Suite in Swanley this Sunday. She hasn't been told herself that the booking has been cancelled, but has heard via others. Her doctor's surgery in South Darenth wasn't very helpful and told her to call 119. They weren't helpful either and told her that they only deal with the AZ vaccine and as she had Pfizer, they can't help her.
She has been trying to do a search on the web for a site that she was told was a place she could re-book but can't find anything. Can anyone help with the name of the website she needs to use, as I seem to remember something on here.
It is very bad that she hasn't been contacted if her original appointment has been cancelled and certainly not the way to treat elderly people.
Go to the Alexandra Suite Facebook page and you will see that some appointments have been cancelled, but it would appear to be 10th April onward, there is also a site to go to for re-booking.
I've just been talking to my step-mum who was due to have her 2nd Covid jab at the Alexandra Suite in Swanley this Sunday. She hasn't been told herself that the booking has been cancelled, but has heard via others. Her doctor's surgery in South Darenth wasn't very helpful and told her to call 119. They weren't helpful either and told her that they only deal with the AZ vaccine and as she had Pfizer, they can't help her.
She has been trying to do a search on the web for a site that she was told was a place she could re-book but can't find anything. Can anyone help with the name of the website she needs to use, as I seem to remember something on here.
It is very bad that she hasn't been contacted if her original appointment has been cancelled and certainly not the way to treat elderly people.
Go to the Alexandra Suite Facebook page and you will see that some appointments have been cancelled, but it would appear to be 10th April onward, there is also a site to go to for re-booking.
Thanks for the info. Her appointment was for the 11th so is affected, it isn't this Sunday as I thought originally. She has sent an email so hopefully they'll contact her tomorrow.
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Vaccines will stop most people from catching it and therefore passing it on. But by far the greatest benefit is not dying!
When you read about long COVID affecting heart, brains, lungs etc it is certainly something we could all do without. And the thought of passing it on to friends and family does not bear thinking about.
I worry about Countries like France who are against taking it. How many of their loved ones and countrymen are going to die or be seriously ill? How selfish do you have to be to risk everyone around you?
I am not sure I could live with myself if I had not done what I could to make the neighbourhood that I live in, the Country I live in, the World I live in, safer for everyone.
German toddlers called Fritz or Adele could be invited for a Covid-19 vaccination while octogenarian Peters and Brigittes will not, as an overzealous interpretation of data privacy laws in one state has forced officials to guess people’s ages from their first names.
Authorities in the northern German state of Lower Saxony claim legal hurdles blocked them from accessing official records when trying to send a written invitation for a vaccination appointment to all citizens aged over 80.
The state decided instead to use post office records, which it said met data protection requirements. But since the Deutsche Post database only partially includes dates of birth, officials have used people’s first names to estimate their ages and “increase the chances of reaching the right recipients”, a spokesperson told the newspaper Bild.
“Therefore not all people in Lower Saxony who are older than 80 will receive a letter,” the health ministry of Lower Saxony conceded in a statement on its website.
It's unlikely we will slow so much that France will catch up on the total, until long after we've finished.
UK Current 1st Jabs = 30,151,287
France Current 1st Jabs = 7,742,466
UK Current 2nd Jabs = 3,527,481
France Current 2nd Jabs = 2,651,777
GDPR (EU legislation) issues are a red herring - in this scenario there is a clear 'legitimate interest' in accessing the data - it's a public health emergency FFS.
And we don’t have a national patient record so why should Germany !
Amid vaccine shortages in Europe, Chinese vaccine producer CanSino says it is currently “in talks with a number of European countries” about orders for its vaccine, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.
Currently, the only country that has approved CanSino’s vaccine for emergency use is Hungary.
Although it hasn't specified which countries the discussions are with, Poland has “expressed interest” with Chinese vaccines, according to the Global Times, and other countries are likely to be non-EU members.
At present, six European countries have either received or are already using Chinese vaccines, but these vaccines are limited within the EU as they have yet to gain approval from the European Medicines Agency.
With the exception of Hungary, the European countries using Chinese vaccines are outside of the European Union.
The single-dose CanSino vaccine was first approved for use among China’s military in June 2020. It is now being used in China, Pakistan and Mexico.
CanSino is currently trialling alternatives to injectable vaccines. Last week, it was granted approval to begin clinical trials using an “inhaled vaccine” that would be a “less painful and more accessible” alternative to an injection, “especially for children and vulnerable people”.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56562416
I had a couple of old soldiers wearing their berets, regimental ties and medals at the entrance and exit.....bumped elbows with them both and of course thanked them.
a word of advice for anyone looking to change the appointment for their jab. My Mum is 92 and lives in Dartford. When she got a letter in Jan to say she could book her jab I went on line and got the soonest available - at that time the nearest centre to her was Guildford Superdrug. Booked and got her jabbed. She was due back there next Tuesday for the second, but asked if I could get a closer centre to her. The online management system only enables you to cancel your appointment - not change it. So I called 119 yesterday to see if I could change it by phone. They only have access to the same on line website that you do. So they have to cancel your appointment before they can see other options. Did that and the only other option was Grays in Essex, and the only day available was Easter Sunday. Asked if we could have our old appointment back but this had gone in less than two minutes.
So we go this Easter Sunday for what is a much shorter drive - 20 mins as opposed to an hour - but at a much worse date for us.
In summary, be very careful before you cancel an appointment as the options offered may be very limited.
Are you Barry White?
She has been trying to do a search on the web for a site that she was told was a place she could re-book but can't find anything. Can anyone help with the name of the website she needs to use, as I seem to remember something on here.
It is very bad that she hasn't been contacted if her original appointment has been cancelled and certainly not the way to treat elderly people.
EDIT - I've been doing a bit of research and have now found the details.