As an aside, far too much emphasis seems to be getting put on managers imo, particularly intra game when players make mistakes. I’m starting to feel some fans think the managers control the players like computer games.
good managers don’t guarantee success and bad managers don’t instantly mean failure. All of these people have been in football all their lives, their approach and decision making is relatively narrow and overlapping.
The right budget, coaching, support and medical team and facilities, training facilities, recruitment policy, contract management, club strategy etc are all just as important as the man who picks the team and sets the tactics and formation.
But taking your comment to its ultimate conclusion a bad manager will mean failure and a good manager will give a better chance of success. No guarantees with anything in life but in general terms experience and previous good work holds people in good stead.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
Don’t put words in my mouth. My opinion is that I would prefer someone with a track record not a newbie.
Adkins has come out of nowhere. Not impressed with his work after Southampton at all. Plus I really, really can't take seeing him called Atkins every other post in here. It'll be Belgiums all over again.
It's a bit of a weird one for Sandgaard with Jacko. He either wants him or he doesn't, and results shouldn't really make a massive difference to that. If we won our next four games then Jacko would have made a great argument to be made permanent, but then would that be because he fitted Sandgaard's long term plan or because he had put himself in a position where it felt awkward not to hire him? I actually would hope that regardless of how Jackson does as caretaker Sandgaard would only appoint him if it fitted a strategy; it always ends in tears if someone is just made permanent manager when they're not really wanted. Abramovich appointed Di Matteo on a permanent grudgingly after he won the Champions League, but he never had his full backing and at the first sight of things slipping he was gone. It was inevitable, because he wasn't really the manager he wanted.
I don’t get the urgency to give him the job. It’s not like he’s in work and we need to poach from another club. Can’t get my head around the thinking of giving Adkins the job.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
Don’t put words in my mouth. My opinion is that I would prefer someone with a track record not a newbie.
Adkins would be perfect then. Three previous promotions from this division, one promotion from the Championship. Almost the polar opposite of Jacko. Would you take it? Your post two hours ago suggests otherwise.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
Don’t put words in my mouth. My opinion is that I would prefer someone with a track record not a newbie.
Adkins would be perfect then. Three previous promotions from this division, one promotion from the Championship. Almost the polar opposite of Jacko. Would you take it? Your post two hours ago suggests otherwise.
I’d be disappointed with either appointment to be honest. If I was pushed into choosing one or the other then I would go for Jackson purely on the fact that despite Adkins previous successes he hasn’t progressed. One thing that makes me think that JJ won’t be given the gig is that TS has a plan that includes attacking football from juniors all the way to the first team. There is no clue as to how Jackson wants to set his teams up or wants to play. Sure he can say “yes Mr. Sandgaard I’m all for playing ten forwards” but in reality there is nothing to judge him on either positive or negative apart from being a genuinely top bloke who loves the club. Just my opinion and if JJ does get it I will be 100% behind him.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
I think most don't want to risk tarnishing his record as a player and coach for us.
A bit like Powell's situation. Some fans were calling for his head even before the takeover.
whatever happens and whoever comes in I want Jacko to still have a role at the club and stay (if an outside man is appointed) - it's clear from last night how much the players like and respect him
Nathan Jones - Could be realistic, much more potential here than at Luton
Michael Beale - Like a few on here hadn't heard of him until this thread but having a look see, I like the idea, got some good coaching experience behind him, league1 a good starting place for the step into being no.1
Both have a Charlton connection without worrying about legendary status so when it goes tits up you won't get the CL Powell/ Bowyer in/out civil war.
However, more than happy to let JJ take it until the end of the season and see what happens there, we won't go down we probably won't go up so let him take on Bowyers "free pass".
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
I think most don't want to risk tarnishing his record as a player and coach for us.
A bit like Powell's situation. Some fans were calling for his head even before the takeover.
That bothers me too but you have to accept that if Jacko wants it then he’s up for the challenge and associated risks.
For those saying Jacko is too young, Eddie Howe was 30 when he took the Bournemouth job.
Not too young. Too inexperienced.
So was Howe when he took over, I just don’t buy age or experience as a reason not to give him the job, he’s been a coach for the past 3 years, and a captain for longer, so has the leadership skills.
if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
I think most don't want to risk tarnishing his record as a player and coach for us.
A bit like Powell's situation. Some fans were calling for his head even before the takeover.
That bothers me too but you have to accept that if Jacko wants it then he’s up for the challenge and associated risks.
I agree. Wilder remains my first choice as he managed the thing Sandgaard wants, a meteoric rise back to the PL.
I understand the unlikeliness of that and JJ with Curbs is my second choice. I think that makes them my first realistic choice.
I don’t really want JJ to get the job because our fans will try to bring him down eventually. There’s no point, let’s save the heartache. Bowyer gets the club, yet he was slaughtered these last few months. I’d prefer someone with no ties.
I don't get this logic. On that basis you'd never have anyone "popular" in case they get criticised at some point in the future
Or is it ok for fans to criticise Slade or Robinson because they didn't play for us, but not Bowyer because 25 years ago he pulled on a Charlton shirt?
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if the reason people don’t want Jacko is that’s it’s not exciting enough, then say that.
A bit like Powell's situation. Some fans were calling for his head even before the takeover.
Nathan Jones - Could be realistic, much more potential here than at Luton
Both have a Charlton connection without worrying about legendary status so when it goes tits up you won't get the CL Powell/ Bowyer in/out civil war.
However, more than happy to let JJ take it until the end of the season and see what happens there, we won't go down we probably won't go up so let him take on Bowyers "free pass".
I understand the unlikeliness of that and JJ with Curbs is my second choice. I think that makes them my first realistic choice.
Or is it ok for fans to criticise Slade or Robinson because they didn't play for us, but not Bowyer because 25 years ago he pulled on a Charlton shirt?
Curbs assisting JJ may work but would prefer someone like David Wagner.
Laudrup, Jackson, Cowley would prefer all of them, very uninspiring if it happens, but what can you do, I’ll be backing him regardless.