One big difference Adkins and Bowyer is adkins is very very positive have seen some of snippets on Twitter it can come across a bit cringey but we are just going have to embrace it
To be honest I'd rather go into work with someone who's really positive and upbeat every day than have a bloke being passive aggressive about jumping out of tackles and playing too close to the wings.
I used to work with a woman who was unfailingly cheery even at half 8 on a rainy Monday in January, and I always found it put me in a better mood rather than being around more grumpy gits like me.
Danny Cowley initially until the end of the season with Portsmouth...
Unless thats why we didnt want him (as its a Cowley clause) I cant see how he'd have been first choice as he surely cant be choosing short term at Portsmouth over long term here
The speed at which Sandgaard said 'we'll have our man in place by the end of the week' with a big smile & the fact he repeated it in several other interviews, I do wonder if the new man (Looks like Adkins) was already lined up to take over in the summer & they've just moved it forward.
Purely speculation on my part & we'll never know the answer
For any number of reasons you would always hope that the owner would have an idea of who he would appoint at any given time. Most managers are always 3 results away from either the sack themselves or getting a better job when someone else gets sacked.
I remember reading an interview with Les Reed a few weeks ago where he said Southampton had managerial appointments planned ahead of where they were . Hence why ironically they moved so quickly to replace Adkins with Poch.
Yeah thier "black box" is the thing of legend. It was only the manager it was 3 players for each position as well. Constantly updated. That's why they weren't as reliant on who the manager was at anyone given time. A great model, if you have the right person running it.
Danny Cowley initially until the end of the season with Portsmouth...
Unless thats why we didnt want him (as its a Cowley clause) I cant see how he'd have been first choice as he surely cant be choosing short term at Portsmouth over long term here
Danny Cowley initially until the end of the season with Portsmouth...
Unless thats why we didnt want him (as its a Cowley clause) I cant see how he'd have been first choice as he surely cant be choosing short term at Portsmouth over long term here
Be curious to know why they're going down that route.
If Cowley achieves promotion I guess they'll keep him, if he doesnt they're potentially back in this position if they dont keep them, and I question who they think will be available apart from Stendal and Harris again
All this positivity for Nige, let's just hope it all comes to fruition or there will be an almighty THUD as all hope goes out the window for a lot of people with the "who's left now" realization , for me i think it will happen.
Personally I would embrace and welcome the appointment of Adkins...hes a forward thinking manager,considerably more experience and considerably more intellect than LB ..he might come across as being a bit bland but if he gets us up at least 1 division in the next 3 years I'd be realistically happy
We can't forget that the clubs infrastructure has been decimated over the last 10 years and hed have the ability to work towards restoring it
I dont buy the arguments about not having a cafc background...I buy into the TS vision and in him I ll trust ...although I will find it tricky to chant the words Nigel when we can get back to the valley
If it's not him I ll back JJ ,I ll back anyone if it has TS approval
I think TS will go for experience and success as he has done with the women's team.
Karen Hills was a clue and the decision to keep the same backroom staff together.
Thomas brought the experience Hills in because she played in the most successful Cafc team ever and she has managed, all be it as a joint manager in the top League. She will over see the transition from amateur to a professional full time set up.
Adkins didn't build that Southampton team, it was Pardew's team that won L1 really.
You look at the players he had - Schneiderlin, Fonte, Lallana, Lambert, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond, that's a L1 cheat code! They then lost Ox, but brought in Jack Cork and Billy Sharp the next season.
Adkins signed Lallana and Fonte, not sure about the rest.
Pardew signed Fonte the previous season.
All those players I mentioned in 2010/11 were there when Adkins was appointed in September 2010. Of course Adkins did a good job to manage them, but he inherited an amazing side, with Pardew allegedly sacked for "off field" reasons
Southampton were seriously underperforming with Pardew at the helm (aside from their JPT Trophy win).
Whilst they were docked 10 points at the start of Pardews tenure, they would have only finished in the play-offs (just), had they had the 10 points. With a squad that good they should have been up there regardless of the deduction.
Another terrible start the following season , & the behind the scenes shenanigans, then lead to Adkins who galvanised them to the Prem in 2 years.
It doesn't matter how good a squad is, if a manager can't unite everyone, then they are not going to be successful. Adkins made them successful.
Seen quite a lot of negativity surrounding Adkins, esp on Twitter with a lot of focus on his tenure at hull. Was he not the guy who took Southampton from league 1 to the premier league...?
Seen quite a lot of negativity surrounding Adkins, esp on Twitter with a lot of focus on his tenure at hull. Was he not the guy who took Southampton from league 1 to the premier league...?
There are a lot, and I mean a metric fuck tonne of absolute weapons-grade idiots on Charlton Twitter.
Seen quite a lot of negativity surrounding Adkins, esp on Twitter with a lot of focus on his tenure at hull. Was he not the guy who took Southampton from league 1 to the premier league...?
He did and I do remember thinking at the time he was very unlucky to get sacked. They then appointed Poch and it obviously worked out well for them but at the time is was a little odd.
Seen quite a lot of negativity surrounding Adkins, esp on Twitter with a lot of focus on his tenure at hull. Was he not the guy who took Southampton from league 1 to the premier league...?
It's almost like "we want the guy who took a club from league 1 to the Premier league, but not THAT one".
Adkins and Lambert both got back 2 back promotions as well. Wilder and Howe didn't.
Lambert seems to have appalling judgment or really likes a challenge as every job he has had since Villa has been at a club with some serious issues. Supprised to see Lambert is actually younger than Adkins, shows how a tough time he has had really.
Well, I for one will be disgusted if he doesn’t hire a remain voting, female identifying, BAME, lgbtq+ disabled Muslim. Anything else would be offensive
I will support whoever gets the role but I would rather have Euell than Adkins. Euell knows the club, the fans and very importantly knows the youth players and set up.
Also, if Adkins does get it, can we call him something other than Nigel please, like Rodney or Dave
Seen quite a lot of negativity surrounding Adkins, esp on Twitter with a lot of focus on his tenure at hull. Was he not the guy who took Southampton from league 1 to the premier league...?
At Hull, Adkins was having to work under the ownership of the Allams. I’ve got a couple of mates who are Hull City to the bone and they despise them for what they’ve done to their club. From the admittedly little bit I know about Adkins it seems he had too much integrity to work under such wreckers.
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I used to work with a woman who was unfailingly cheery even at half 8 on a rainy Monday in January, and I always found it put me in a better mood rather than being around more grumpy gits like me.
Unless thats why we didnt want him (as its a Cowley clause) I cant see how he'd have been first choice as he surely cant be choosing short term at Portsmouth over long term here
Would make a good video though!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/ex-cardiff-and-millwall-boss-neil-harris-ruled-out-of-portsmouth-manager-hunt-3168148?amp
If Cowley achieves promotion I guess they'll keep him, if he doesnt they're potentially back in this position if they dont keep them, and I question who they think will be available apart from Stendal and Harris again
We can't forget that the clubs infrastructure has been decimated over the last 10 years and hed have the ability to work towards restoring it
I dont buy the arguments about not having a cafc background...I buy into the TS vision and in him I ll trust ...although I will find it tricky to chant the words Nigel when we can get back to the valley
If it's not him I ll back JJ ,I ll back anyone if it has TS approval
Karen Hills was a clue and the decision to keep the same backroom staff together.
Thomas brought the experience Hills in because she played in the most successful Cafc team ever and she has managed, all be it as a joint manager in the top League.
She will over see the transition from amateur to a professional full time set up.
Thomas likes a good CV.
Whilst they were docked 10 points at the start of Pardews tenure, they would have only finished in the play-offs (just), had they had the 10 points. With a squad that good they should have been up there regardless of the deduction.
Another terrible start the following season , & the behind the scenes shenanigans, then lead to Adkins who galvanised them to the Prem in 2 years.
It doesn't matter how good a squad is, if a manager can't unite everyone, then they are not going to be successful. Adkins made them successful.
Having done some research last night I'm a convert, chalk and cheese to Bowyer and in my opinion an upgrade.
Adkins and Lambert both got back 2 back promotions as well. Wilder and Howe didn't.
Lambert seems to have appalling judgment or really likes a challenge as every job he has had since Villa has been at a club with some serious issues. Supprised to see Lambert is actually younger than Adkins, shows how a tough time he has had really.
Also, if Adkins does get it, can we call him something other than Nigel please, like Rodney or Dave
At Hull, Adkins was having to work under the ownership of the Allams. I’ve got a couple of mates who are Hull City to the bone and they despise them for what they’ve done to their club. From the admittedly little bit I know about Adkins it seems he had too much integrity to work under such wreckers.
Family pack.......The Cowleys??
I'm reading too much into it aren't I??