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Marcus Maddison returns
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Hints in the press that Sunderland are interested in signing him .. for a north east boy this could prove to be an advantageous move IF it ever happens .. we certainly will not be letting him go there any time soon0
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He is our player and with that comes a duty of care. No flippant comments required, let's hope he gets his head right for the sake of himself and his daughter. He is clearly a talented player and we need to wish him a speedy return to where he needs to be.6
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I was one of those who stated that I felt people were too quick to just jump to the ‘mental health’ conclusion without knowing the facts.
Now the facts / statement is out there I do hope that he can get the help he needs. It’s a real shame, as he’s clearly very, very talented. But life is too short to be unhappy.0 -
I haven’t read the comments on this thread but I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs and the bloke can sort his head out. He’s a father and he has a little girl to look after, that along with his mental health should be his number one priority.11
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Bowyer about the last manager he'd have wanted to play for, but he wasn't to know1
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For me it is such a shame , MM has so much talent and potential, I believe that Adkins could be his last chance, if he cant raise a players confidence and motivation then it may be over, I wished J. Williams was still here to see how he would perform.1
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MM has a medical problem, so he is ill and needs help. Whether the illness is physical or mental matters not a jot.
Get well soon Marcus14 -
Only if you selected that notificationOggy Red said:
I've got 26,198 notifications.AFKABartram said:
Off topic, but Absolutely no idea why anyone would Have thread notifications switched on.Cafc43v3r said:This could be intresting and glad you have started a new thread because I am fed up of the notifications from the other one 🤣🤣You are aware you can individually configure your profile and notification preferences to specify exactly what pop-up or email notifications you receive from CL??
See this thread: https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/87388/how-to-manage-email-pop-up-site-notifications/p1
No, not kidding either.
Does that mean I can switch off notifications also, AFKA?
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Edit. Please ignore my lack of judgement on Marcus situation, I was unaware of the whole situation and it was knee jerk reaction from what was a stressful afternoon, I take back these comments back wholeheartedley and wish marcus the best1
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You might ‘believe’ mental health is a serious problem, but it is more than evident you don’t understand what a serious problem mental health, or lack thereof, is.LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.9 -
He has been given many chances and wasted them all. His current struggles are a product of himself not the abuse or pressures from others.SurvivaloftheFittest said:
You might ‘believe’ mental health is a serious problem, but it is more than evident you don’t understand what a serious problem mental health, or lack thereof, is.LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.0 -
I've critiqued bowyer but he was right with Maddison, he gave him a chance as he probably saw a young version of himself in him, how did Marcus repay him? Complete lack of effort4
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There again, he was desperate for a club when no one came calling in the summer as evidenced by his Tweet along the lines of all he wanted to do was play football. If anything, Bowyer should have known that MM would not be the type of player that he should be signing given his known issues with other skilful players who he perceives not to be working hard enough when not in possession:Leuth said:Bowyer about the last manager he'd have wanted to play for, but he wasn't to know
“I took a gamble on Marcus – against a lot of people saying not to. I tried to improve his professionalism, if you like. But unfortunately it just hasn’t worked out.“The one thing I do is I demand a certain standard and that goes throughout the whole team. The other thing I demand is that you have to be hungry and proud to play for this football club. So there were certain things that happened that weren’t right.
“No one person is bigger than the club – that includes myself. Players come and players go, managers come and go – that’s football.
“The most important thing for me is that the squad is happy and then you all have to be in this together. We win together and lose together, you can’t afford to carry anyone.”0 -
Bowyer was very generous in giving him a chanceAddick Addict said:
There again, he was desperate for a club when no one came calling in the summer as evidenced by his Tweet along the lines of all he wanted to do was play football. If anything, Bowyer should have known that MM would not be the type of player that he should be signing given his known issues with other skilful players who he perceives not to be working hard enough when not in possession:Leuth said:Bowyer about the last manager he'd have wanted to play for, but he wasn't to know
“I took a gamble on Marcus – against a lot of people saying not to. I tried to improve his professionalism, if you like. But unfortunately it just hasn’t worked out.“The one thing I do is I demand a certain standard and that goes throughout the whole team. The other thing I demand is that you have to be hungry and proud to play for this football club. So there were certain things that happened that weren’t right.
“No one person is bigger than the club – that includes myself. Players come and players go, managers come and go – that’s football.
“The most important thing for me is that the squad is happy and then you all have to be in this together. We win together and lose together, you can’t afford to carry anyone.”0 -
It might be hard for fans to understand how a footballer can come to a point where the game brings them no joy, but as so many on here have eloquently described, mental illness can leave you feeling nothing for the things that most take for granted: family, friends, loved ones, children, careers, wealth, opportunity. I hope he can find a meaningful way of living and supporting his family, and if football isn't part of that I won't judge that at all.2
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LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.Utter garbage.6
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Why is that? Football hasn't broken him like he claims, football has given him many many chances. I hope he gets the help he needs but the blaming of other people for his problems is not entirely true, yes he has had a hard time from fans and that has played a part but not 100 percent.arny23394 said:LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.Utter garbage.0 -
It is nothing to do with earning money. Rich people suffer with anxiety and depression as well as poor people. I have known people with it and they have a lot going for them, but they just see darkness and hoplessness. You can point to somebody without mental illness and say, they have more right to be ill than you but that shows a complete lack of understanding. It is likely some people are just more prone to it than others or something has happened in the past to make them more prone. What they don't need is being blamed and made to feel even worse about themselves.11
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I think my comments were misjudged without knowing the full situation, I apologies and admit I was wrong.15
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Where does he see as home?
If it is Peterborough then I could see someone like Cambridge or Northampton trying to rehabilitate him.
Ironically in the two games I saw him play live against AFC Wombles and MKD I was impressed by him.0 -
Football is clearly off the radar for him at the momentRichard J said:Where does he see as home?
If it is Peterborough then I could see someone like Cambridge or Northampton trying to rehabilitate him.
Ironically in the two games I saw him play live against AFC Wombles and MKD I was impressed by him.
I assume the PFA will get involved, and try and help him1 -
The bloke is at a major crossroads in both his career and his life in general. There’s the ability for it to go in all sorts of directions.Despite the pressure that comes with the professional game, there is also huge support in his profession and all sorts of specialist assistance available.Ultimately though, only he can determine what path he takes. He’s got to want it. Hope for his sake he sorts himself out.4
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Wish Marcus all the best and saw this coming to be honest. He's never been particularly passionate about the game and believe he's debated packing it in before. Think it could be his best option to pack it in.0
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How do you know football has t broken him? Are you basing your comments on what you see on the pitch for 90 minutes? How about what happens on the training pitch and the sting room and the time in hotels away from family.LittleAddick said:
Why is that? Football hasn't broken him like he claims, football has given him many many chances. I hope he gets the help he needs but the blaming of other people for his problems is not entirely true, yes he has had a hard time from fans and that has played a part but not 100 percent.arny23394 said:LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.Utter garbage.0 -
Wonder how this all tally's up with what Sage mentioned about an incident that happened with Maddison which meant he completely lost the trust of the management team.
I wonder if his issues were known about and addressed at the time. Although it may have seemed like something was wrong to many of us, it's difficult if this is the first time he would have come forward about this.0 -
It was a quote from his message, however like i said i appreciate my comments were insensitive and I take them back.Todds_right_hook said:
How do you know football has t broken him? Are you basing your comments on what you see on the pitch for 90 minutes? How about what happens on the training pitch and the sting room and the time in hotels away from family.LittleAddick said:
Why is that? Football hasn't broken him like he claims, football has given him many many chances. I hope he gets the help he needs but the blaming of other people for his problems is not entirely true, yes he has had a hard time from fans and that has played a part but not 100 percent.arny23394 said:LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.Utter garbage.3 -
Well that's a shame, because you have. I'm afraid you don't have a clue how mental illness works so I would suggest you avoid commenting on it. Mental health issues don't care about how many chances you are given. Would you tell someone with a broken leg that they were given loads of chances to walk and then question their loyalty when their leg gave out from under them? It doesn't matter how much money someone is offered or how many times it happens, if you aren't in a position where your mental health is being dealt with then you won't get any better. Maddison clearly needs to take a step away from football now because everything he's tried before hasn't worked. He tried moving away and starting fresh, which is a common approach to trying to fix things when you're in a rut but sometimes you just hit a point where you realise you need serious help, and he's clearly hit that point. When you have bad depression getting out of bed can be a struggle, doesn't matter how many thousands of pounds are dangled in front of you.LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.
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Again, I've acknowledged my comments were wrongGarrymanilow said:
Well that's a shame, because you have. I'm afraid you don't have a clue how mental illness works so I would suggest you avoid commenting on it. Mental health issues don't care about how many chances you are given. Would you tell someone with a broken leg that they were given loads of chances to walk and then question their loyalty when their leg gave out from under them? It doesn't matter how much money someone is offered or how many times it happens, if you aren't in a position where your mental health is being dealt with then you won't get any better. Maddison clearly needs to take a step away from football now because everything he's tried before hasn't worked. He tried moving away and starting fresh, which is a common approach to trying to fix things when you're in a rut but sometimes you just hit a point where you realise you need serious help, and he's clearly hit that point. When you have bad depression getting out of bed can be a struggle, doesn't matter how many thousands of pounds are dangled in front of you. Maybe hold on to your limited sympathy.LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.7 -
I just saw that you had after I'd posted. I am apparently a slow typer. Fair play to you, I respect anyone who's willing to do that, especially in the faceless internet age.LittleAddick said:
Again, I've acknowledged my comments were wrongGarrymanilow said:
Well that's a shame, because you have. I'm afraid you don't have a clue how mental illness works so I would suggest you avoid commenting on it. Mental health issues don't care about how many chances you are given. Would you tell someone with a broken leg that they were given loads of chances to walk and then question their loyalty when their leg gave out from under them? It doesn't matter how much money someone is offered or how many times it happens, if you aren't in a position where your mental health is being dealt with then you won't get any better. Maddison clearly needs to take a step away from football now because everything he's tried before hasn't worked. He tried moving away and starting fresh, which is a common approach to trying to fix things when you're in a rut but sometimes you just hit a point where you realise you need serious help, and he's clearly hit that point. When you have bad depression getting out of bed can be a struggle, doesn't matter how many thousands of pounds are dangled in front of you. Maybe hold on to your limited sympathy.LittleAddick said:He needs to look in the mirror, 'abuse' 'pressures' he has been given every opportunity under the sun and decent contacts and not repaid that with any loyalty or effort, staying in hotel rooms instead of turning up to games is unforgivable. I don't want to appear unsensitive to mental health as I believe it to be a serious problem but this man has been given a gift and wasted the good will of people giving him chances, he has always had an attitude problem, perhaps exasperated by mental health struggles but the problem lies with his own work ethic. Given the state of some people in poverty in this country his lazy attitude to earning money some people could only dream of is Frankly insulting and my sympathy is limited.
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